Comic people on Frank Miller's rant

[DiceX]

Sad to say that Frank seems to be becoming a shadow of his former self very quickly. Alcohol is a powerful drug.

 

 

 

I think blaming his obvious issues on alcohol is ridiculous. He is a self absorbed, self gratifying, ignorant, attention whore who somehow has come to the opinion that since he used to be a good artist, and a decent writer, people should care what his opinion on various subjects might be.

 

This is the same problem with much of Hollywood. I could care less what Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Angelina Jolie or anyone else thinks about politics/current events. Normal average everyday people have nothing in common with them, and I have no idea why they feel that anyone cares what they think. As if being famous and wealthy makes you knowledgable. The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

 

I couldn't agree more. If anyone is disconnected with the average American person, it's Anne Hathaway.

 

 

[Dale Roberts]

Sad to say that Frank seems to be becoming a shadow of his former self very quickly. Alcohol is a powerful drug.

 

 

 

I think blaming his obvious issues on alcohol is ridiculous. He is a self absorbed, self gratifying, ignorant, attention whore who somehow has come to the opinion that since he used to be a good artist, and a decent writer, people should care what his opinion on various subjects might be.

 

This is the same problem with much of Hollywood. I could care less what Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Angelina Jolie or anyone else thinks about politics/current events. Normal average everyday people have nothing in common with them, and I have no idea why they feel that anyone cares what they think. As if being famous and wealthy makes you knowledgable. The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

Maybe Frank Miller goes in a different category. If he lived near ground zero on that day, maybe that changes a man.

I'm giving Frank Miller the benefit of the doubt. Even more so if he had personal friends murdered that day.

He can rant all he wants.

 

 

Everyone has excuses. I don't know what living near ground zero or losing friends in the Sept 11th attacks has to do with anything. There are thousands and thousands of people that would fall into those same circumstances who dealt with, and are still dealing with the tragedy. Yet they are not acting like Miller. They are not calling the occupy Wall Street movement murderers and rapists. This is about Frank Miller, no one else.

 

Some of the Wall Street crowd is completely corrupt. Fund managers have responsibility to those people whose money they are managing. Yet they seem to care nothing for anyone except themselves. I don't know if I agree with the movement or not, but I do understand the anger that many feel as greedy corporate brokers/bankers commit fraud on the American people, costing them millions, yet continue to pad their own bottom lines with more money than most of us can ever imagine..

[DiceX]

Free Speech is protected of course...

Not here, it's not.

In before the lock.

 

Bah. This thread won't get locked. To mature of a topic, and no segway into boobie pictures.

 

no segway into boobie pictures

 

 

Post of the year.

 

 

[seanfingh]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I agree with Dale. It is pernicious, pervasive and subversive. Fame for fame's sake has become a disease in America. No longer do people care about doing great things. They just want to be famous like William Hung or Ruppert from Survivor.

[TheShadowKnows]

Free Speech is protected of course...

Not here, it's not.

In before the lock.

 

Bah. This thread won't get locked. To mature of a topic, and no segway into boobie pictures.

 

no segway into boobie pictures

 

[/quotPlastic of the year.

 

Fixed that for you

[Dale Roberts]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I disagree Andy. It is affecting our society and the values/work ethic of our young people in a major (and negative) way. As Sean said, people used to strive to "do", now they are content to follow (facebook) and observe. It is one reason why the USA is being passed by other countries in terms of productivity.

[TheShadowKnows]

I loved Millers daredevil,sin city.and dark knight.

 

I then read DK2.What a piece of .Living off his reputation I think.

 

Clearly this is another case of foot in mouth disease.

[Dr. Balls]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I agree with Dale. It is pernicious, pervasive and subversive. Fame for fame's sake has become a disease in America. No longer do people care about doing great things. They just want to be famous like William Hung or Ruppert from Survivor.

 

I gotta agree with that. Doing great things takes effort and patience. Becoming famous in this day and age is (mostly) just pure luck of being in the right place at the right time - or knowing someone who believes in the virtues of cronyism.

[Snake Eyes]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I agree with Dale. It is pernicious, pervasive and subversive. Fame for fame's sake has become a disease in America. No longer do people care about doing great things. They just want to be famous like William Hung or Ruppert from Survivor.

 

Exactly Sean...I can immediately think of two murder cases I was involved with in the past year where attention seeking/fame played a role in the motive/criminal offenses themselves. It absolutely is a major problem Not saying it is the most important or only problem facing our society, but it is significant and unfortunately growing in intensity/influence.

[BlowUpTheMoon]

Free Speech is protected of course...

Not here, it's not.

In before the lock.

 

Bah. This thread won't get locked. To mature of a topic, and no segway into boobie pictures.

 

no segway into boobie pictures

 

 

Unnecessary Post of the year.

 

 

Fixed that for you.

[DiceX]

Free Speech is protected of course...

Not here, it's not.

In before the lock.

 

Bah. This thread won't get locked. To mature of a topic, and no segway into boobie pictures.

 

no segway into boobie pictures

 

Plastic of the year.

 

Fixed that for you

 

If I can touch them, they're "real."

 

 

[goldust40]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I disagree Andy. It is affecting our society and the values/work ethic of our young people in a major (and negative) way. As Sean said, people used to strive to "do", now they are content to follow (facebook) and observe. It is one reason why the USA is being passed by other countries in terms of productivity.

 

It's a symptom of a far more systemic problem. Not denying it isn't significant...of course it is. There were other ways of dropping out or living your life vicariously through others prior to this.

[TheShadowKnows]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I disagree Andy. It is affecting our society and the values/work ethic of our young people in a major (and negative) way. As Sean said, people used to strive to "do", now they are content to follow (facebook) and observe. It is one reason why the USA is being passed by other countries in terms of productivity.

I agree with Dale.So many young people live in the now.I dont care about tomorrow.A beautiful 20 something works at the business next to me.She is adored by 15 tats.Wonders why she can only get a min wage job.

[TheShadowKnows]

Free Speech is protected of course...

Not here, it's not.

In before the lock.

 

Bah. This thread won't get locked. To mature of a topic, and no segway into boobie pictures.

 

no segway into boobie pictures

 

Plastic of the year.

 

Fixed that for you

 

If I can touch them, they're "real."

 

(thumbs u

[John R]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I agree with Dale. It is pernicious, pervasive and subversive. Fame for fame's sake has become a disease in America. No longer do people care about doing great things. They just want to be famous like William Hung or Ruppert from Survivor.

 

I gotta agree with that. Doing great things takes effort and patience. Becoming famous in this day and age is (mostly) just pure luck of being in the right place at the right time - or knowing someone who believes in the virtues of cronyism.

 

Exactly - What have The Kardashians or Jersey Shore people done? and yet they are two of the most watched cable shows and basically famous for doing nothing.

[goldust40]

Sad to say that Frank seems to be becoming a shadow of his former self very quickly. Alcohol is a powerful drug.

 

 

 

I think blaming his obvious issues on alcohol is ridiculous. He is a self absorbed, self gratifying, ignorant, attention whore who somehow has come to the opinion that since he used to be a good artist, and a decent writer, people should care what his opinion on various subjects might be.

 

This is the same problem with much of Hollywood. I could care less what Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Angelina Jolie or anyone else thinks about politics/current events. Normal average everyday people have nothing in common with them, and I have no idea why they feel that anyone cares what they think. As if being famous and wealthy makes you knowledgable. The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

Maybe Frank Miller goes in a different category. If he lived near ground zero on that day, maybe that changes a man.

I'm giving Frank Miller the benefit of the doubt. Even more so if he had personal friends murdered that day.

He can rant all he wants.

 

 

Everyone has excuses. I don't know what living near ground zero or losing friends in the Sept 11th attacks has to do with anything. There are thousands and thousands of people that would fall into those same circumstances who dealt with, and are still dealing with the tragedy. Yet they are not acting like Miller. They are not calling the occupy Wall Street movement murderers and rapists. This is about Frank Miller, no one else.

 

Some of the Wall Street crowd is completely corrupt. Fund managers have responsibility to those people whose money they are managing. Yet they seem to care nothing for anyone except themselves. I don't know if I agree with the movement or not, but I do understand the anger that many feel as greedy corporate brokers/bankers commit fraud on the American people, costing them millions, yet continue to pad their own bottom lines with more money than most of us can ever imagine..

 

I agree with all of this, though.

[Dr. Balls]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I disagree Andy. It is affecting our society and the values/work ethic of our young people in a major (and negative) way. As Sean said, people used to strive to "do", now they are content to follow (facebook) and observe. It is one reason why the USA is being passed by other countries in terms of productivity.

 

It's a symptom of a far more systemic problem. Not denying it isn't significant...of course it is. There were other ways of dropping out or living your life vicariously through others prior to this.

 

Yes, but now it's more acceptable and even admired. To observe and comment is becoming something people value, pay attention to and desire to emulate. It may not apply to *everyone* but it applies to enough people that we're noticing. And I'm not just talking about moral panic - it seems fairly significant.

 

It should come to no surprise. When 1% control 99% of the wealth - it's hard to convince people to make an effort to be something greater - when it's clearly obvious to them that they can't.

[Darth Corgi]

Taken from here.

 

 

Free Speech is protected of course, but being a first class d0uche bag and having people call you out on it is not. I'm glad other people have a problem with what he's said and are voicing their opinions.

 

Doesn't change the fact that I really want him to get the screenplay for Sin City 2 done, though.

 

Those last three panels ...

 

Yeah, where is Sin City 2? Loved that first movie!

[Davenport]

Sad to say that Frank seems to be becoming a shadow of his former self very quickly. Alcohol is a powerful drug.

 

 

 

I think blaming his obvious issues on alcohol is ridiculous. He is a self absorbed, self gratifying, ignorant, attention whore who somehow has come to the opinion that since he used to be a good artist, and a decent writer, people should care what his opinion on various subjects might be.

 

This is the same problem with much of Hollywood. I could care less what Susan Sarandon, Tim Robbins, Angelina Jolie or anyone else thinks about politics/current events. Normal average everyday people have nothing in common with them, and I have no idea why they feel that anyone cares what they think. As if being famous and wealthy makes you knowledgable. The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

Maybe Frank Miller goes in a different category. If he lived near ground zero on that day, maybe that changes a man.

I'm giving Frank Miller the benefit of the doubt. Even more so if he had personal friends murdered that day.

He can rant all he wants.

 

 

Everyone has excuses. I don't know what living near ground zero or losing friends in the Sept 11th attacks has to do with anything. There are thousands and thousands of people that would fall into those same circumstances who dealt with, and are still dealing with the tragedy. Yet they are not acting like Miller. They are not calling the occupy Wall Street movement murderers and rapists. This is about Frank Miller, no one else.

 

Some of the Wall Street crowd is completely corrupt. Fund managers have responsibility to those people whose money they are managing. Yet they seem to care nothing for anyone except themselves. I don't know if I agree with the movement or not, but I do understand the anger that many feel as greedy corporate brokers/bankers commit fraud on the American people, costing them millions, yet continue to pad their own bottom lines with more money than most of us can ever imagine..

I was only speaking about Frank Miller. And he didn't call OWS "murders", he called them "louts, thieves, and rapists, an unruly mob" (mirrored by police reports).

 

This is why I give Miller the benefit of the doubt. Quote:

FM: "3000 of my neighbors were murdered. My country was, utterly unprovoked, savagely attacked. I wish all those responsible for the Atrocity of 9/11 to burn in hell."

 

I'm not even going to pretend I can imagine what it was like. I can't.

[Dale Roberts]

The fascination with Hollywood/celebrity is one of the biggest problems with this country.

 

It's a problem but scarcely a major one, relatively speaking.

 

I disagree Andy. It is affecting our society and the values/work ethic of our young people in a major (and negative) way. As Sean said, people used to strive to "do", now they are content to follow (facebook) and observe. It is one reason why the USA is being passed by other countries in terms of productivity.

I agree with Dale.So many young people live in the now.I dont care about tomorrow.A beautiful 20 something works at the business next to me.She is adored by 15 tats.Wonders why she can only get a min wage job.

 

Wonder if she ever thinks about how that is going to look when she is 65. Or maybe she doesn't plan to live that long.

 

I am all for freedom and the abilities to choose that we have in this country. But people need to realize that freedom to choose does not free you from having to live with and deal with the consequences of those choices. And those consequences can last for years and years and be life altering.