eBayer "hotdogmary11" (now "stature7") Is A DISHONEST and DECEITFUL Buyer

[Old Fashion PB and J]

The price of that book is criminal.

 

Kudos for finding suckers to spend that dough on a disturbingly common book.

 

Shame on people and their disrespect for money!

 

Do not take time payments on something like this. That would be like accepting payments on the ASM Obama variant. I fired them off like Quagmier at a porn shoot.

[Ryan.]

There have always been honest and dishonest people in the world but times have changed and I have no doubt the world is generally a more dangerous and dishonest place.

 

I've always believed that the bigger the city and the larger the population, the more impersonal and dishonest people become in general. You're more likely to rip someone off or behave badly if you don't know him, and you're more likely to rip someone off if you think a large population gives you anonymity. Square that for the internet.

 

Maybe dishonesty is like crime rates: The percentages are going down or remaining static but, because there's more people on the planet, incidents are on the rise.

[seanfingh]

I also believe that the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality that is running rampant in this country teaches kids to rationalize everything and find a way to make whatever they do OK, no matter how objectively offensive.

 

Part of my soul died when I was told that I was cheering too much at a youth soccer game, and that my actions were likely to cause trauma to the team that was not being cheered.

[thehumantorch]

I also believe that the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality that is running rampant in this country teaches kids to rationalize everything and find a way to make whatever they do OK, no matter how objectively offensive.

 

Part of my soul died when I was told that I was cheering too much at a youth soccer game, and that my actions were likely to cause trauma to the team that was not being cheered.

 

That post should earn you a trophy.

 

Trying to give people self esteem rather than let them earn it is a huge pep peeve of mine. I recently heard of a school district that banned best friends - it would hurt the feelings of all of the others who weren't singled out for that honour, and gee whiz, imagine the indescribable pain if their friendship was somehow to fail after declaring each other best friends.

[Muaythai607]

On August 12th, Fred agreed to buy my Walking Dead 100 Comixology Variant CGC 9.8 SS (Kirkman/Adlard/Ottley) for $1000 with time payments. I agreed to hold the book for him for up to two months, and he made an initial deposit via PP of $330.

 

Today he emails me to let me know that he has found the same book now for $875. He asked if I would lower my price to $875. I explained to him that a deal is a deal, and I placed the book on hold for him on the 12th for $1000, which also prevented me from selling the book to anyone else during that time. I also pointed out the fact that, had the book gone up in value and was now selling at $1500, he would not be volunteering to pay me more money...he would fully expect me to honor the original terms of our agreement. Apparently, though, this only goes one way. The SELLER has to agree to the terms of the deal as long as they are beneficial to the BUYER...otherwise, all bets are off.

 

Today he filed an "item not received" dispute with Paypal to get his money back so he can break his word and buy from someone else. It's amazing to me that someone is so willing to sell their reputation to save $125.

 

You may want to consider blocking him on eBay immediately. And...if he happens to be a CGC forum member, I'd love to hear it.

 

time to find a better buyer... I hope it all works out at least you got to keep that nice piece and also now you can sell if for more .. very nice of you to hold it for him as well...

[Boboset]

I also believe that the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality that is running rampant in this country teaches kids to rationalize everything and find a way to make whatever they do OK, no matter how objectively offensive.

 

Part of my soul died when I was told that I was cheering too much at a youth soccer game, and that my actions were likely to cause trauma to the team that was not being cheered.

 

That post should earn you a trophy.

 

Trying to give people self esteem rather than let them earn it is a huge pep peeve of mine. I recently heard of a school district that banned best friends - it would hurt the feelings of all of the others who weren't singled out for that honour, and gee whiz, imagine the indescribable pain if their friendship was somehow to fail after declaring each other best friends.

 

 

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[Park]

I also believe that the "everyone gets a trophy" mentality that is running rampant in this country teaches kids to rationalize everything and find a way to make whatever they do OK, no matter how objectively offensive.

 

Part of my soul died when I was told that I was cheering too much at a youth soccer game, and that my actions were likely to cause trauma to the team that was not being cheered.

 

You left out the part where you were not fully clothed while "cheering". That was the trauma they were referring to.

[Park]

The days of a hand shake and your word being bond are long over. Its pathetic...people do not grasp the value of their word and how important it truly is. Its sad, but in my world you prove your worth now, I no longer assume you have any. Sorry to hear your deal got screwed up.

 

Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure the world has always been full of dishonest people. The internet just makes them more accessible.

 

I wasn't speaking just of online interactions...I was speaking of the world as a whole now. Honor, duty, respect...they are all dead concepts and found very few and far between.

 

I understood what you were speaking of and I think you're completely wrong. Yes, there are terrible people now. There were terrible people when you were knee-high to a cockroach and there were terrible people when Bonk was headbutting dinosaurs. There were also people full of honor, duty and respect during all of those periods. This idea that everything was perfect and sweet "then" and everything is horrible and dirty "now" is a total fallacy and fairly tired at this point.

 

I agree. There have always been shltty people. We are just more aware of them now. There have always been good people and there are just as many now.

 

The broad, sweeping generalization that people are so much more _____ is just lazy and not based in reality.

 

You got me...my thinking is totally lazy, fairly tired, and not based in reality. Kewl. (thumbs u

 

You're welcome. (thumbs u

[comicwiz]

On August 12th, Fred agreed to buy my Walking Dead 100 Comixology Variant CGC 9.8 SS (Kirkman/Adlard/Ottley) for $1000 with time payments. I agreed to hold the book for him for up to two months, and he made an initial deposit via PP of $330.

 

Today he emails me to let me know that he has found the same book now for $875. He asked if I would lower my price to $875. I explained to him that a deal is a deal, and I placed the book on hold for him on the 12th for $1000, which also prevented me from selling the book to anyone else during that time. I also pointed out the fact that, had the book gone up in value and was now selling at $1500, he would not be volunteering to pay me more money...he would fully expect me to honor the original terms of our agreement. Apparently, though, this only goes one way. The SELLER has to agree to the terms of the deal as long as they are beneficial to the BUYER...otherwise, all bets are off.

 

Today he filed an "item not received" dispute with Paypal to get his money back so he can break his word and buy from someone else. It's amazing to me that someone is so willing to sell their reputation to save $125.

 

You may want to consider blocking him on eBay immediately. And...if he happens to be a CGC forum member, I'd love to hear it.

 

 

Did you think of sending him a receipt for his deposit along with a note regarding his balance due and time frame, via priority mail with delivery confirmation?

 

That's what he purchased from you with his deposit, acknowledgment of his partial payment and an agreement to pay in full by a certain date.

 

Then you could give paypal the DC number, and claim you delivered what he's purchased so far, which is nothing but a receipt and a chance to get the book once he's paid up in full.

 

If he's going to game the system on you, you should play every legal and honest technicality you can for yourself.

 

Legally, he's got zero leg to stand on. He's liable nine ways to Sunday.

 

PayPal will not back you regardless. If you're going to enter into any time payment arrangement, ask for M.O.'s and disclaim that item will be sent only after last payment clears.

[comix4fun]

On August 12th, Fred agreed to buy my Walking Dead 100 Comixology Variant CGC 9.8 SS (Kirkman/Adlard/Ottley) for $1000 with time payments. I agreed to hold the book for him for up to two months, and he made an initial deposit via PP of $330.

 

Today he emails me to let me know that he has found the same book now for $875. He asked if I would lower my price to $875. I explained to him that a deal is a deal, and I placed the book on hold for him on the 12th for $1000, which also prevented me from selling the book to anyone else during that time. I also pointed out the fact that, had the book gone up in value and was now selling at $1500, he would not be volunteering to pay me more money...he would fully expect me to honor the original terms of our agreement. Apparently, though, this only goes one way. The SELLER has to agree to the terms of the deal as long as they are beneficial to the BUYER...otherwise, all bets are off.

 

Today he filed an "item not received" dispute with Paypal to get his money back so he can break his word and buy from someone else. It's amazing to me that someone is so willing to sell their reputation to save $125.

 

You may want to consider blocking him on eBay immediately. And...if he happens to be a CGC forum member, I'd love to hear it.

 

 

Did you think of sending him a receipt for his deposit along with a note regarding his balance due and time frame, via priority mail with delivery confirmation?

 

That's what he purchased from you with his deposit, acknowledgment of his partial payment and an agreement to pay in full by a certain date.

 

Then you could give paypal the DC number, and claim you delivered what he's purchased so far, which is nothing but a receipt and a chance to get the book once he's paid up in full.

 

If he's going to game the system on you, you should play every legal and honest technicality you can for yourself.

 

Legally, he's got zero leg to stand on. He's liable nine ways to Sunday.

 

PayPal will not back you regardless. If you're going to enter into any time payment arrangement, ask for M.O.'s and disclaim that item will be sent only after last payment clears.

 

 

Yeah, paypal is stacked against him. I was just trying to think of something to make it harder on the loser to get his money back.

[comicwiz]

The days of a hand shake and your word being bond are long over. Its pathetic...people do not grasp the value of their word and how important it truly is. Its sad, but in my world you prove your worth now, I no longer assume you have any. Sorry to hear your deal got screwed up.

 

Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure the world has always been full of dishonest people. The internet just makes them more accessible.

 

I wasn't speaking just of online interactions...I was speaking of the world as a whole now. Honor, duty, respect...they are all dead concepts and found very few and far between.

 

I understood what you were speaking of and I think you're completely wrong. Yes, there are terrible people now. There were terrible people when you were knee-high to a cockroach and there were terrible people when Bonk was headbutting dinosaurs. There were also people full of honor, duty and respect during all of those periods. This idea that everything was perfect and sweet "then" and everything is horrible and dirty "now" is a total fallacy and fairly tired at this point.

 

There have always been honest and dishonest people in the world but times have changed and I have no doubt the world is generally a more dangerous and dishonest place.

 

There's a reason why organized crime rings are flocking to the Web.

[DWL]

The days of a hand shake and your word being bond are long over. Its pathetic...people do not grasp the value of their word and how important it truly is. Its sad, but in my world you prove your worth now, I no longer assume you have any. Sorry to hear your deal got screwed up.

 

Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure the world has always been full of dishonest people. The internet just makes them more accessible.

 

I wasn't speaking just of online interactions...I was speaking of the world as a whole now. Honor, duty, respect...they are all dead concepts and found very few and far between.

 

I understood what you were speaking of and I think you're completely wrong. Yes, there are terrible people now. There were terrible people when you were knee-high to a cockroach and there were terrible people when Bonk was headbutting dinosaurs. There were also people full of honor, duty and respect during all of those periods. This idea that everything was perfect and sweet "then" and everything is horrible and dirty "now" is a total fallacy and fairly tired at this point.

 

I agree. There have always been shltty people. We are just more aware of them now. There have always been good people and there are just as many now.

 

The broad, sweeping generalization that people are so much more _____ is just lazy and not based in reality.

 

You got me...my thinking is totally lazy, fairly tired, and not based in reality. Kewl. (thumbs u

 

 

You do have a cool signature line!

[comicwiz]

On August 12th, Fred agreed to buy my Walking Dead 100 Comixology Variant CGC 9.8 SS (Kirkman/Adlard/Ottley) for $1000 with time payments. I agreed to hold the book for him for up to two months, and he made an initial deposit via PP of $330.

 

Today he emails me to let me know that he has found the same book now for $875. He asked if I would lower my price to $875. I explained to him that a deal is a deal, and I placed the book on hold for him on the 12th for $1000, which also prevented me from selling the book to anyone else during that time. I also pointed out the fact that, had the book gone up in value and was now selling at $1500, he would not be volunteering to pay me more money...he would fully expect me to honor the original terms of our agreement. Apparently, though, this only goes one way. The SELLER has to agree to the terms of the deal as long as they are beneficial to the BUYER...otherwise, all bets are off.

 

Today he filed an "item not received" dispute with Paypal to get his money back so he can break his word and buy from someone else. It's amazing to me that someone is so willing to sell their reputation to save $125.

 

You may want to consider blocking him on eBay immediately. And...if he happens to be a CGC forum member, I'd love to hear it.

 

 

Did you think of sending him a receipt for his deposit along with a note regarding his balance due and time frame, via priority mail with delivery confirmation?

 

That's what he purchased from you with his deposit, acknowledgment of his partial payment and an agreement to pay in full by a certain date.

 

Then you could give paypal the DC number, and claim you delivered what he's purchased so far, which is nothing but a receipt and a chance to get the book once he's paid up in full.

 

If he's going to game the system on you, you should play every legal and honest technicality you can for yourself.

 

Legally, he's got zero leg to stand on. He's liable nine ways to Sunday.

 

PayPal will not back you regardless. If you're going to enter into any time payment arrangement, ask for M.O.'s and disclaim that item will be sent only after last payment clears.

 

 

Yeah, paypal is stacked against him. I was just trying to think of something to make it harder on the loser to get his money back.

 

It's unfortunate, because the seller is really offering a lay-away plan for the buyer, and I have heard this scheme being used by some real low-life's to string people along, to the point where the last payment is made, the book is sent, and they file an item not received and the seller is out the money and the book.

 

The worst being in-person transactions, where they pick-up the item, tell you PayPal is safe, and then as soon as they take off, they file an item not received.

 

In both cases, as soon as you explain you either accepted "time payments' or entered into an "in-person transaction", 'PayPal gives you this

[Junkdrawer]

Worst thing about buying anything is seeing being offered for less. Is it the buyer is always right or is it good business ethics that make a store have a policy to match that lower price. Buyers are liars and if they proove it's true they deserve the best price in this world. Should they have shopped around more? Certainly. But they save time and patronize reputable establishments.

Entering into a time deal takes men of word and ethics. I this case possibly splitting the difference may save the deal

[Buzzetta]

 

"I want him dead! I want his family dead! I want his house burned to the ground!"

[jjeanius]

Worst thing about buying anything is seeing being offered for less. Is it the buyer is always right or is it good business ethics that make a store have a policy to match that lower price. Buyers are liars and if they proove it's true they deserve the best price in this world. Should they have shopped around more? Certainly. But they save time and patronize reputable establishments.

Entering into a time deal takes men of word and ethics. I this case possibly splitting the difference may save the deal

 

If the book increased in value during this time, would the buyer then volunteer to pay more for the book? If you buy a stock and it goes down in value, can you ask for a partial refund? How about everyone that bought a house in 2007..?

 

He agreed to a price, and I put the book on hold for him once the deposit was received. I could have sold the book to someone else without time payments, but...I honored our deal. Clearly I am the only one.

 

There is a good chance I will have business in his neck of the woods later this year. Perhaps I will pay him a visit, and bring Lucille with me. What a worthless turd!

[Buzzetta]

This reminds me of NFL players who demand to restructure their contract once they have a good season.

[Ryan.]

This reminds me of NFL players who demand to restructure their contract once they have a good season.

 

NFL player contracts aren't guaranteed. If the player gets hurt the team can cut him. If the owners don't want players to be able to restructure deals then they can move to make all contracts guaranteed. That agreement is a two-way street. Next analogy!

[Muaythai607]

there selling for 300 below the 1000 dollar price rance... i guess, the hype's died down quite a bit..

[Jimmy Linguini]

On August 12th, Fred agreed to buy my Walking Dead 100 Comixology Variant CGC 9.8 SS (Kirkman/Adlard/Ottley) for $1000 with time payments. I agreed to hold the book for him for up to two months, and he made an initial deposit via PP of $330.

 

Today he emails me to let me know that he has found the same book now for $875. He asked if I would lower my price to $875. I explained to him that a deal is a deal, and I placed the book on hold for him on the 12th for $1000, which also prevented me from selling the book to anyone else during that time. I also pointed out the fact that, had the book gone up in value and was now selling at $1500, he would not be volunteering to pay me more money...he would fully expect me to honor the original terms of our agreement. Apparently, though, this only goes one way. The SELLER has to agree to the terms of the deal as long as they are beneficial to the BUYER...otherwise, all bets are off.

 

Today he filed an "item not received" dispute with Paypal to get his money back so he can break his word and buy from someone else. It's amazing to me that someone is so willing to sell their reputation to save $125.

 

You may want to consider blocking him on eBay immediately. And...if he happens to be a CGC forum member, I'd love to hear it.

 

Ask him if he wants an unsigned blue label! I'll sell it for 75 off what he offered to pay you!