What books are the most overrated/overvalued in your opinion?

[AnkurJ]

I guess I'm fortunate to have purchased many of these books years ago.

 

[thedude]

AnkurJ love your new sig line. great books

 

"what books are the most overvalued?"

 

any book I'm trying to buy.

[vaillant]

Right, always right, and even when #1 issues are mediocre. Daredevil Battles Hitler is a prime example, if you leave out the cover. DD #5, #6, #7 and #8 are all better than #1, if you leave the well-thought Hitler cover out.

 

I don't have a DD 5, 6, 7, or 8, but I find it hard to believe that any of them have a better interior than #1. DD Battles Hitler is golden age royalty in terms of story.

 

Agreed. Some of the best art of the early GA, especially the Jack Cole stuff.

 

Well, honestly I can’t say I read the stories in DD #1, since I don’t have it, but I just have an eBook, but surely most of the art is better in the following issues. I do have #6, #7 and #8 and I think Biro was constantly improving.

Plus, London by Jerry Robinson runs starting with #2, it‘s a still immature Robinson but it’s truly enjoyable, and there’s Pat Patriot which has some episodes by Reed Crandall.

 

What makes me think is that the issues seems built around variations on Hitler stories, where he‘s portrayed in not so unusual way for the time. And it seems people which are familiar with #1 have little to no idea to what Biro did afterwards, which became really amazing after 1942. Covers became pretty dull as the stories improved issue after issue. #47 is awesome.

[vaillant]

I guess I'm fortunate to have purchased many of these books years ago.

 

You are!

[Cat-Man_America]

Most Overvalued? - Adventure Comics #48 and Daredevil (Battles Hitler) #1 .

I really think so. It seems everyone NOT collecting Daredevil wants to show he/she has a copy.

I would add Daredevil Comics #11 and #27. Just because there’s a Hunchback-like character (which is not even a proper DD villain) on #11 and some torture on #27 (which does not even reflect in full the internal story) do I have to get mad to obtain these at decent prices?

 

All the #1 issues compared with the #2 issues.

 

 

Right, always right, and even when #1 issues are mediocre. Daredevil Battles Hitler is a prime example, if you leave out the cover. DD #5, #6, #7 and #8 are all better than #1, if you leave the well-thought Hitler cover out.

 

[tth2]

Superman 1

 

Yes i realize it is 39 book and the first time one character had his own comic but aside from a few pages it all Action reprints. Nothing going on here and its what the 3rd most expensive book. Come on that is nuts

 

James G

If it were as common as Batman 1, particularly in mid-grade, it wouldn`t be the 3rd most expensive book.

[AnkurJ]

Superman 1 has become popular more so due to the increasing price of Action 1.

[RedFury]

Superman 1

 

Yes i realize it is 39 book and the first time one character had his own comic but aside from a few pages it all Action reprints. Nothing going on here and its what the 3rd most expensive book. Come on that is nuts

 

James G

If it were as common as Batman 1, particularly in mid-grade, it wouldn`t be the 3rd most expensive book.

 

Superman 1 was the game changer. It was DC's realization the it was Superman selling the Action Comics book, not Zatara, not Tex Thompson. It was the first time a super-hero got his own book. If not for the Skippy technicality, we could say it was the first time any comic character got his own book. The book sold so well they went back to press twice. Every other publisher took notice. There had been a few other super-heroes before Superman 1 in Summer '39, but not many. But after Superman 1? Every publisher, including DC, was racing to come up with their own super-heroes. Action 1 created the super-hero, but Superman 1 was when the genre achieved critical mass. A hugely important book.

[The_Captain]

Superman 1

 

Yes i realize it is 39 book and the first time one character had his own comic but aside from a few pages it all Action reprints. Nothing going on here and its what the 3rd most expensive book. Come on that is nuts

 

James G

If it were as common as Batman 1, particularly in mid-grade, it wouldn`t be the 3rd most expensive book.

 

Superman 1 was the game changer. It was DC's realization the it was Superman selling the Action Comics book, not Zatara, not Tex Thompson. It was the first time a super-hero got his own book. If not for the Skippy technicality, we could say it was the first time any comic character got his own book. The book sold so well they went back to press twice. Every other publisher took notice. There had been a few other super-heroes before Superman 1 in Summer '39, but not many. But after Superman 1? Every publisher, including DC, was racing to come up with their own super-heroes. Action 1 created the super-hero, but Superman 1 was when the genre achieved critical mass. A hugely important book.

 

Well said

[Kevin.J]

MC #1

Batman #1

Books with Schomburg covers

 

[AnkurJ]

AnkurJ love your new sig line. great books

 

Thank you

[Tsp99]

This is just a generalized statement and there will definitely be outliers. In my opinion I would say

 

World's Best

World's Finest (except #3 which is about right).

Captain Marvel and Whiz later issues (after issues 10-20), especially Whiz 25

Captain Midnight (seem to consistently sell under guide)

More Fun (use to be super hot because several deep pocket collectors were chasing the run at the same time but when they dropped out and sold off their stuff prices tanked, as much as 50%)

All American except 16, 33, and 61

Non-Sandman cover Adventures but Sandman may be in the category soon

Pre-Robin Detectives (I look at these like More Funs were several years back, a lot of collectors chasing them now, but starting to see people dump them now just like More Fun)

Pre-Hero Detectives

All non-Superman cover early Actions (I know they are a lot cheaper than the Superman covers but still too high)

Human Torch and Submariner #1 (seem to sell under guide and certainly at a lower premium to other issues)

All Winners #1

 

I think you meant to say All-Star 33, not All-American 33?

[Hepcat]

Every superhero, horror and crime title compared with the other genres such as funny animal, teen humour and romance.

 

 

 

 

[VintageComics]

Personally I feel Pep 22 is both overrated and over valued. While Archie was popular for many years, his character has faded considerably since the 1980s. I would think books like Walt Disney comics & stores 1, and Looney Tunes 1 would also pick up steam with Pep 22, but that is not the case.

 

Or is it just rarity? What was the Gerber rating on Pep 22?

 

What books do you think are overvalued?

 

Seriously?

 

Archie is still pulling like a freight train after over 70 years in print relative to the other big titles. There are few characters that can make that claim.

 

Prices of Archie comics have risen dramatically in recent years because people are realizing how tough and cheap these books are. I had a high grade Archie sell off the shelf in NYC with zero negotiation. Just paid full pop on an aggressive price.

 

Pep #22 just had a 57% rise in guide if I'm not mistaken.

 

When we give out comics at Hallowe'en, the Archie comics are the first to go. Literally. They are often the only comics I still find at newsstands and grocery stores.

 

Finally, of all the GA keys there are out there to chase, Pep #22 is unequivocally the toughest book to find in ANY grade. Not high grade. Any grade.

 

I just don't understand how anyone can logically make the arguement that Pep #22 is overvalued or overrated.

 

 

[Sqeggs]

Personally I feel Pep 22 is both overrated and over valued. While Archie was popular for many years, his character has faded considerably since the 1980s. I would think books like Walt Disney comics & stores 1, and Looney Tunes 1 would also pick up steam with Pep 22, but that is not the case.

 

Or is it just rarity? What was the Gerber rating on Pep 22?

 

What books do you think are overvalued?

 

Seriously?

 

Archie is still pulling like a freight train after over 70 years in print relative to the other big titles. There are few characters that can make that claim.

 

Prices of Archie comics have risen dramatically in recent years because people are realizing how tough and cheap these books are. I had a high grade Archie sell off the shelf in NYC with zero negotiation. Just paid full pop on an aggressive price.

 

Pep #22 just had a 57% rise in guide if I'm not mistaken.

 

When we give out comics at Hallowe'en, the Archie comics are the first to go. Literally. They are often the only comics I still find at newsstands and grocery stores.

 

Finally, of all the GA keys there are out there to chase, Pep #22 is unequivocally the toughest book to find in ANY grade. Not high grade. Any grade.

 

I just don't understand how anyone can logically make the arguement that Pep #22 is overvalued or overrated.

 

 

I was thinking the same thing. Seems as if every Archie I bid on ends up going way over guide.

[Cat-Man_America]

Every superhero, horror and crime title compared with the other genres such as funny animal, teen humour and romance.

 

 

 

 

Were you neutered?

[buttock]

Personally I feel Pep 22 is both overrated and over valued. While Archie was popular for many years, his character has faded considerably since the 1980s. I would think books like Walt Disney comics & stores 1, and Looney Tunes 1 would also pick up steam with Pep 22, but that is not the case.

 

Or is it just rarity? What was the Gerber rating on Pep 22?

 

What books do you think are overvalued?

 

Seriously?

 

Archie is still pulling like a freight train after over 70 years in print relative to the other big titles. There are few characters that can make that claim.

 

Prices of Archie comics have risen dramatically in recent years because people are realizing how tough and cheap these books are. I had a high grade Archie sell off the shelf in NYC with zero negotiation. Just paid full pop on an aggressive price.

 

Pep #22 just had a 57% rise in guide if I'm not mistaken.

 

When we give out comics at Hallowe'en, the Archie comics are the first to go. Literally. They are often the only comics I still find at newsstands and grocery stores.

 

Finally, of all the GA keys there are out there to chase, Pep #22 is unequivocally the toughest book to find in ANY grade. Not high grade. Any grade.

 

I just don't understand how anyone can logically make the arguement that Pep #22 is overvalued or overrated.

 

 

The thing about Archie, is that he's so far off most collectors' radar that it's almost like another hobby altogether. And when you look at Archie today, you still pick up the books in the grocery store like the old days. Sure you can get it in the comic shop, but it's a whole different animal. That makes it very polarizing to traditional collectors who are familiar something else. He isn't a super-hero, so most people don't know what to make of him. It really is like another hobby.

[VintageComics]

The thing about Archie, is that he's so far off most collectors' radar that it's almost like another hobby altogether. And when you look at Archie today, you still pick up the books in the grocery store like the old days. Sure you can get it in the comic shop, but it's a whole different animal. That makes it very polarizing to traditional collectors who are familiar something else. He isn't a super-hero, so most people don't know what to make of him. It really is like another hobby.

 

That's very well put. I understand all that. Ultimately, the same can be said about almost any genre in comics that is not superhero centric.

 

It still doesn't negate the fact that Pep #22 is an incredibly important book and tougher to get than any other key.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[143ksk]

The thing about Archie, is that he's so far off most collectors' radar that it's almost like another hobby altogether. And when you look at Archie today, you still pick up the books in the grocery store like the old days. Sure you can get it in the comic shop, but it's a whole different animal. That makes it very polarizing to traditional collectors who are familiar something else. He isn't a super-hero, so most people don't know what to make of him. It really is like another hobby.

 

That's very well put. I understand all that. Ultimately, the same can be said about almost any genre in comics that is not superhero centric.

 

It still doesn't negate the fact that Pep #22 is an incredibly important book and tougher to get than any other key.

 

 

 

[tth2]

Superman 1

 

Yes i realize it is 39 book and the first time one character had his own comic but aside from a few pages it all Action reprints. Nothing going on here and its what the 3rd most expensive book. Come on that is nuts

 

James G

If it were as common as Batman 1, particularly in mid-grade, it wouldn`t be the 3rd most expensive book.

 

Superman 1 was the game changer. It was DC's realization the it was Superman selling the Action Comics book, not Zatara, not Tex Thompson. It was the first time a super-hero got his own book. If not for the Skippy technicality, we could say it was the first time any comic character got his own book. The book sold so well they went back to press twice. Every other publisher took notice. There had been a few other super-heroes before Superman 1 in Summer '39, but not many. But after Superman 1? Every publisher, including DC, was racing to come up with their own super-heroes. Action 1 created the super-hero, but Superman 1 was when the genre achieved critical mass. A hugely important book.

I agree with everything you`ve said.

 

Superman #1--a titanic book that is also hard to find, so it`s neither overrated or overvalued.

 

Batman #1--not so much.