oakman29 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u Absolutely,well stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u ...I approach this in an unorthodox manner, but agree with you for the most part. In my opinion, if you don't own 180, 181, AND 182 then you don't own Wolverines first appearance. It's all the SAME story. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarrisonJohn Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 1st cameo, 1st full. 1+1=2. I'm just listing them as I've always seen them noted since I started collecting comic books shortly after these books came out. I don't remember there ever being an issue about it. "1st full" lets you know there is a small previous appearance so it's a way of saying 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaillant Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u ...I approach this in an unorthodox manner, but agree with you for the most part. In my opinion, if you don't own 180, 181, AND 182 then you don't own Wolverines first appearance. It's all the SAME story. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Same here, but I love how Silverdream summarized… Now let’s hope NO ONE brings the question on the table again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonzilla Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 When I first started collection seriously I couldn't find a Hulk 181 anywhere, then I got the Official Handbook Of The Marvel Universe series when they came out and was surprised that Hulk 180 was listed as Wolverine's 1st appearance. Having never owned, or read either, I was just going by what I'd heard and saw in Mile High's ads in the comics back in '81-82. Got a 180 on my next trip to one of the only comic shops in the city for 5 bucks. Took me another 6 or 7 years to get a 181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffro. Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 Same here, but I love how Silverdream summarized… Now let’s hope NO ONE brings the question on the table again! yeah, good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted April 13, 2015 Share Posted April 13, 2015 I know one thing.....I will never, ever, ever, forget that Wolverine appeared in Hulk 181......... GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeeksAreMyPeeps Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u ...I approach this in an unorthodox manner, but agree with you for the most part. In my opinion, if you don't own 180, 181, AND 182 then you don't own Wolverines first appearance. It's all the SAME story. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u I own the Wolverine/Hulk book from the '80s that reprints the story, so do I own the first appearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u ...I approach this in an unorthodox manner, but agree with you for the most part. In my opinion, if you don't own 180, 181, AND 182 then you don't own Wolverines first appearance. It's all the SAME story. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u I own the Wolverine/Hulk book from the '80s that reprints the story, so do I own the first appearance? ...in a cool and much less expensive layer of the Multiverse..... yes, you do. Especially if it was the first place YOU read it. There are Infinite Realities......each beginning and ending at it's center...... GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidTheDavid Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Looking for the books heating up posts in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comicdey Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 I hear that Daredevil might get some serious steam from Netflix....I'm pretty sure he appeared in the bronze age too.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fett Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 180- 1st cameo 181- 1st full 182- 3rd GSXM- 4th I have no skin in this game, but I find it strange that a " 2nd appearance" is missing from this list. When you look at it listed the way it is above, one gets a better idea of how absurd the whole argument is. Its like everyone is trying as hard as they can to not call 181 his 2nd appearance, and go as far as eliminating a 2nd appearance entirely. If 182 is his 3rd appearance, what is his 2nd? Anyone? Then you have to ask.... If 182 is a cameo ( and it is ), why is it considered his 3rd appearance? Based on your standards above, should it not be considered his 3rd appearance ( cameo ) and Giant size x-men be his 3rd full? This is what you are doing for his first appearance above, but change your stance on later appearances ... again ... why is there a double standard in place? I personally think we should consider labeling books ( with 1st cameos ) from now on like this: 180 : 1st appearance of wolverine ( cameo ) 181: 2nd appearance of Wolverine ( 1st full appearance ) 182: 3rd appearance of Wolverine ( cameo ) Giant size X-men 1: 4th appearance of Wolverine ( 2nd full appearance) Uncanny X-men 94 : 5th appearance of Wolverine ( 3rd full appearance) To me, this explains his appearances properly. Cameo has been a term we have used in this hobby forever. It doesn't need to go away, just call them for what they are. They are appearances, period. Cameo or not, label them in order and call them what they are. It doesn't matter if a characters 4th appearance is his 1st full, its still his 4th appearance ( 1st full) (thumbs u ...I approach this in an unorthodox manner, but agree with you for the most part. In my opinion, if you don't own 180, 181, AND 182 then you don't own Wolverines first appearance. It's all the SAME story. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) (thumbs u I like the 3-in-one story approach also. #180 is the first page, #181 is the meat of the story (money issue), and #182 is the last page. Each individual can call the first two parts of the story whatever they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hado Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 Marvel Spotlight #32 $150 raw??? Shill much? http://www.ebay.com/itm/Marvel-spotlight-on-the-spider-woman-32-hi-grade-book-/181709756858?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2a4ebed9ba Am I missing something, looks normal to me? Didn't you know that anytime something sells for a lot of money that isn't supposed to, it's due to shilling? Possibly due to the fact that Spider-Gwen as SPIDER-WOMAN is crazy huge now. So some of those people might be interested in the first appearance of Spider-Woman. I still haven't read Spider-Gwen, obviously the public don't call her that when in costume, or there'd be no point in wearing a mask. Do they call her Spider-woman? ta da Right there on the cover huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slym2none Posted April 14, 2015 Share Posted April 14, 2015 #teamslippers -slym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aweandlorder Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Alot of movement on Trimpey books. The industry has spoken - Everyone is paying tribute to the true giant behind the green giant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Alot of movement on Trimpey books. The industry has spoken - Everyone is paying tribute to the true giant behind the green giant. He did all green giants well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vikingreed Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 Is that Gwen Stacey on that cover?!?!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petey's Wheatcake Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (edited) Alot of movement on Trimpey books. The industry has spoken - Everyone is paying tribute to the true giant behind the green giant. He did all green giants well: +1 The first run I ever completed as a kid. I collected Godzilla, Hulk, Indiana Jones, MTU and G.I. Joe. Herb was such an important part of my early collecting years. Edited April 15, 2015 by Petey's Wheatcake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
divad Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 (thumbs u Back to heating up . . . Power Man 48 - 1st IRON FIST in Title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakesComics Posted April 15, 2015 Share Posted April 15, 2015 One of those Luke Cage books should break out but I'm not sure if it will be 48, 50 or 54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
