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The Shiller Speaks

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I snipe. Reason being - it takes the emotion out of it and keeps me from getting into a bidding war and spending more than I wanted to spend unnecessarily just to compete and win. I used to get into bidding wars and oftentimes when I did win, I would look at what I did and :facepalm:

 

Now - I wait, have in mind what my absolute max is that I would spend on a book and enter it. If I win, :acclaim: , if not - it wasn't meant to be. There's "risk" associated with sniping as well in that you won't get a second chance to enter a higher amount and I'll happily take that risk to prevent myself from overspending beyond what I had preset as my limit. I don't get the animosity towards sniping. If you really want a book and your'e bidding, make sure your bid is the highest amount you would spend on the book and feel confident you will get it. (thumbs u

 

It is NOTHING like shilling. (tsk)

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I snipe. Reason being - it takes the emotion out of it and keeps me from getting into a bidding war and spending more than I wanted to spend unnecessarily just to compete and win.

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I put in what I expect the value to be. If it goes beyond that - no problem, I'm just not interested in paying what I perceive to be the inflated cost.

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I also feel sniping in a way "protects" me from shilling or at least minimizes the effects.

 

If a seller is shilling his auctions by small amounts - he doesn't have a chance to shill my bid when I enter it with seconds left to drive up my bid. ;)

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I snipe. Reason being - it takes the emotion out of it and keeps me from getting into a bidding war and spending more than I wanted to spend unnecessarily just to compete and win. I used to get into bidding wars and oftentimes when I did win, I would look at what I did and :facepalm:

 

Now - I wait, have in mind what my absolute max is that I would spend on a book and enter it. If I win, :acclaim: , if not - it wasn't meant to be. There's "risk" associated with sniping as well in that you won't get a second chance to enter a higher amount and I'll happily take that risk to prevent myself from overspending beyond what I had preset as my limit. I don't get the animosity towards sniping. If you really want a book and your'e bidding, make sure your bid is the highest amount you would spend on the book and feel confident you will get it. (thumbs u

 

It is NOTHING like shilling. (tsk)

 

I'm 100% cool with you not agreeing with my opinion and I see your vantage point. As I stated in my original post - shilling is against the rules thus "wrong" where as sniping is an approved bidding tactic so I am in no way defending any sniper for breaking the rules. I see both of them as a way for both parties to manipulate the final price of an auction so I do not agree with either of them.

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But how is sniping manipulating the final price of an auction? ???

 

It's a bid just like any other. (shrug)

 

I'm stupefied by his reasoning.

 

I too used to be against sniping...mainly because I kept getting sniped lol

 

Sniping has made my eBay experience more enjoyable.

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I snipe. Reason being - it takes the emotion out of it and keeps me from getting into a bidding war and spending more than I wanted to spend unnecessarily just to compete and win.

+3

 

+4

 

I put in what I expect the value to be. If it goes beyond that - no problem, I'm just not interested in paying what I perceive to be the inflated cost.

 

Inflated prices due to a bidding war or other people getting the price to beat your highest bid? People keep saying that bidders should just post their highest bids and let it ride . . which can be placed days in advance of a auction ending.

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But how is sniping manipulating the final price of an auction? ???

 

It's a bid just like any other. (shrug)

 

I'm stupefied by his reasoning.

 

I too used to be against sniping...mainly because I kept getting sniped lol

 

Sniping has made my eBay experience more enjoyable.

 

Why would you be originally against sniping - you posted the highest bid you felt comfortable with and let it ride, right?

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But how is sniping manipulating the final price of an auction? ???

 

It's a bid just like any other. (shrug)

 

I'm stupefied by his reasoning.

 

I too used to be against sniping...mainly because I kept getting sniped lol

 

Sniping has made my eBay experience more enjoyable.

 

Why would you be originally against sniping - you posted the highest bid you felt comfortable with and let it ride, right?

 

Not always.

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When I snipe I assume others are sniping too, so I feel we are all on a level playing field. Shilling is the seller manipulating the playing field.

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I snipe. Reason being - it takes the emotion out of it and keeps me from getting into a bidding war and spending more than I wanted to spend unnecessarily just to compete and win.

+3

 

+4

 

I put in what I expect the value to be. If it goes beyond that - no problem, I'm just not interested in paying what I perceive to be the inflated cost.

 

Inflated prices due to a bidding war or other people getting the price to beat your highest bid? People keep saying that bidders should just post their highest bids and let it ride . . which can be placed days in advance of a auction ending.

I don't get what you're saying here though. I mean, I can read it, but I'm really trying to understand your reasoning. ??? Are you saying bidders have a responsibility or some sort of "honor code" to the seller to make sure they get the highest price? I mean, REALLY - explain your reasoning why you think it's unfair to wait until the end for a bidder to enter their highest amount they would pay. :popcorn: If I watch an auction and others have bid up the price more than I'd pay, I just move on. What is wrong with entering my highest price at the end? If I had to battle with 5 snipe bids at the same time, it's still the highest bed that wins. I have no obligation to drive up the seller's price for him. (shrug)

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