Those Imbeciles on "Pawn Stars" Last Night

[Reader's Copy]

Yeah love red heads and Rebecca is very cute. Sean the gun guy hasn't been on in a few years. He left he show. Below was an email he posted about why he left last year.

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Thanks for posting that, I'd wondered what happened to him. Not surprising that the History Channel - er," H History"; I don't even think they're called the History Channel anymore - is getting overly protective of this sort of thing. Hopefully the channel gets new management over the next few years and they go back to showing, you know, actual history stuff. Modern Marvels and American Pickers just don't do it for me. I want random documentaries on the French Revolution and the Luftwaffe!

[Pike's Comics]

What was their employees name who is on Suicide Girls?

[ComicConnoisseur]

Yeah love red heads and Rebecca is very cute. Sean the gun guy hasn't been on in a few years. He left he show. Below was an email he posted about why he left last year.

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Thanks for posting that, I'd wondered what happened to him. Not surprising that the History Channel - er," H History"; I don't even think they're called the History Channel anymore - is getting overly protective of this sort of thing. Hopefully the channel gets new management over the next few years and they go back to showing, you know, actual history stuff. Modern Marvels and American Pickers just don't do it for me. I want random documentaries on the French Revolution and the Luftwaffe!

H2 does that.

Others that use to be like the History Channel are

Smithsonian Channel, Military Channel, National Geographic Channel, and the Science Channel that you might try out.

(thumbs u

[Ebel 1911]

Good Call! I've seen some very good shows on Military & National Geographic.

[slym2none]

What was their employees name who is on Suicide Girls?

 

Olivia? She's on Suicide Girls??

 

 

 

 

-slym

[Pike's Comics]

What was their employees name who is on Suicide Girls?

 

Olivia? She's on Suicide Girls??

 

 

 

 

-slym

 

Yes. She got kicked off the show by the producers becuase of it though she still works for them. On a side note I am totally confused by your comment on my goals...

[Reader's Copy]

H2 does that.

Others that use to be like the History Channel are

Smithsonian Channel, Military Channel, National Geographic Channel, and the Science Channel that you might try out.

(thumbs u

 

Oh yeah, some of the only channels that give me any desire to turn my tv on anymore. Although most of that stuff is just on Netflix anyway, so I really have no reason to complain.

 

And it looks like Olivia (the one that got fired for being a soft-core porn star) is suing the company for her firing. Interesting...

[Hepcat]

You mean, a pawn shop owner tried to downplay the value of the item offered for sale, in order to buy it for a super low price that would give them maximum profit when they sell it in the future???

 

Well it is, after all, "reality" TV. So welcome to the real world, comic fans!

 

[Ebel 1911]

H2 does that.

Others that use to be like the History Channel are

Smithsonian Channel, Military Channel, National Geographic Channel, and the Science Channel that you might try out.

(thumbs u

 

Oh yeah, some of the only channels that give me any desire to turn my tv on anymore. Although most of that stuff is just on Netflix anyway, so I really have no reason to complain.

 

And it looks like Olivia (the one that got fired for being a soft-core porn star) is suing the company for her firing. Interesting...

 

Wow, people sue for almost anything...

[Hepcat]

Olivia fans should be the ones doing the suing.

 

[Jaydogrules]

The actual copy featured on last night's show is on eBay:

 

AF #15 featured on Pawn Stars

 

Looks like the "Pawn Stars" AF 15 only made it to $8,600 on ebay and did not hit the reserve.

 

Not surprising since Corey said it was only worth $7K. If I was that seller I would not have mentioned that it was the one on the show. Well first, I wouldn't be trying to sell it six days before Christmas. Going forward I would slab it, wait a month or two and then try to sell it with no "Pawn Stars" reference. The show most certainly did not help him.

 

-J.

[BarryAllen]

The actual copy featured on last night's show is on eBay:

 

AF #15 featured on Pawn Stars

 

Looks like the "Pawn Stars" AF 15 only made it to $8,600 on ebay and did not hit the reserve.

 

Not surprising since Corey said it was only worth $7K. If I was that seller I would not have mentioned that it was the one on the show. Well first, I wouldn't be trying to sell it six days before Christmas. Going forward I would slab it, wait a month or two and then try to sell it with no "Pawn Stars" reference. The show most certainly did not help him.

 

-J.

 

Wonder what it may have gone to without the reserve…

 

Also, with books over $5000, a better bet is usually an professional comic auction site.

[mintcollector]

Hey guys just thought you should know: according to Corey and his "expert" on Pawn Stars last night, the entire comic book market is in the toilet and a 5.0 AF15 is worth $6000.

 

 

Ironically I recently called them asking how much they were asking for what looked like a 4.0 ASM 1 I saw on the show once and the rep said it was a firm $12k. So either the show is completely fake or these d bags have no idea what they're talking about.

 

-J.

 

Actually, there are many dynamics to understanding the view that 'outsiders' (much like the 'Pawn Stars') have regarding the comic book collecting hobby. First, as several forum members already stated it is no surprise that a buyer is attempting to devalue the item in question (nothing new here) that they are attempting to buy. It should also come as no surprise that most reality shows have less reality in them than most folks realize. I am still surprised over how many people quite their jobs to venture into storage auction buying when 'Storage Wars' and 'Auction Hunters' first premiered (even with unemployment well over 8% at the time). Reality television does crazy things to some people. I recently attended a vintage advertising auction that was supposed to net 500K for the entire auction. The final gross was over 2 million, with several buyers I spoke to citing 'American Pickers' for their sole reason of buying. Not sure why, but I hope those individuals understand the risk of buying in a speculative bubble. This brings me to how the comic book collecting field as viewed by outsiders. Most general collectors, dealers, and those in the antique industry; fondly remember the speculation that affected more recent collecting hobbies like sports cards, toys, and yes, comic books. As such, they do not have a positive view by a lot of those in the auctioneering fields (overall) and those in the greater antique and collecting fields. A lot of higher end auction houses are still hesitant to hold full blown comic book auctions. As a result, the speculation that ran rampant in the 1990's is still fresh in the minds of those not involved in the hobby directly. To be fair, try to think about a collecting field that you have no interest in. I guarantee that you (as do I) have some unfair prejudices or inaccurate views of that hobby. This is why I always preach that people need to take an overall view of collecting as a whole before choosing to invest or learn about any such individual market within the full spectrum of antiques and collectibles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[tth2]

The one reality show I`ve never figured out how they expect the viewer to believe is real in any way is "Undercover Boss".

 

There`s a film crew following some alleged low level trainee! Even if they don`t guess it`s the boss in disguise, how stupid would the employees have to be to not at least try to be on their best behavior in front of all these cameras?

[sonicyouth]

Hey guys just thought you should know: according to Corey and his "expert" on Pawn Stars last night, the entire comic book market is in the toilet and a 5.0 AF15 is worth $6000.

 

 

Ironically I recently called them asking how much they were asking for what looked like a 4.0 ASM 1 I saw on the show once and the rep said it was a firm $12k. So either the show is completely fake or these d bags have no idea what they're talking about.

 

-J.

 

Actually, there are many dynamics to understanding the view that 'outsiders' (much like the 'Pawn Stars') have regarding the comic book collecting hobby. First, as several forum members already stated it is no surprise that a buyer is attempting to devalue the item in question (nothing new here) that they are attempting to buy. It should also come as no surprise that most reality shows have less reality in them than most folks realize. I am still surprised over how many people quite their jobs to venture into storage auction buying when 'Storage Wars' and 'Auction Hunters' first premiered (even with unemployment well over 8% at the time). Reality television does crazy things to some people. I recently attended a vintage advertising auction that was supposed to net 500K for the entire auction. The final gross was over 2 million, with several buyers I spoke to citing 'American Pickers' for their sole reason of buying. Not sure why, but I hope those individuals understand the risk of buying in a speculative bubble. This brings me to how the comic book collecting field as viewed by outsiders. Most general collectors, dealers, and those in the antique industry; fondly remember the speculation that affected more recent collecting hobbies like sports cards, toys, and yes, comic books. As such, they do not have a positive view by a lot of those in the auctioneering fields (overall) and those in the greater antique and collecting fields. A lot of higher end auction houses are still hesitant to hold full blown comic book auctions. As a result, the speculation that ran rampant in the 1990's is still fresh in the minds of those not involved in the hobby directly. To be fair, try to think about a collecting field that you have no interest in. I guarantee that you (as do I) have some unfair prejudices or inaccurate views of that hobby. This is why I always preach that people need to take an overall view of collecting as a whole before choosing to invest or learn about any such individual market within the full spectrum of antiques and collectibles.

 

 

 

 

 

 

well said sir! makes perfect sense.

it may be safe to say, due to the prejudice that runs rampant from the 90's crash we still have yet to see the hobby reach its potential

 

which means its on the rise..

 

GotG and DoFP movies may be refreshing enough to rekindle another light that takes us further from those dark times in the 90's.

 

 

also everyone knows auction style lsitings are dead on ebay... doesn't matter if its the mona lisa...

 

so its no surprise that gentlemens AF15 was undersold...

 

BIN's are virtually the only way to go for books that expensive and unslabbed!

 

[Griff]

while I enjoy pawnstars. I take it with a grain of salt. there is no way they can no the true value of everything that comes into their shop. I think the thing that bugs me most though is when they PRETEND to know.

 

Could you imagine walking in there with the church copy of Suspense Comics #3.

 

they would probably only offer you 50 bucks on it

 

With high value books, you darn well better get them slabbed if you plan on selling them. and as stated above you are much better off using an auction house for that kind of book

[Gatsby77]

A lot of higher end auction houses are still hesitant to hold full blown comic book auctions.

 

Respectfully disagree. The Southeby's comic book auctions of the later '80s/early '90s did much to legitimize comic collecting among the fine art and Wall Street crowd.

 

The reason they stopped wasn't the lack of profitability, but rather that Heritage came in with a specific specialty niche in comic books.

 

Even with their legacy reps in the antiques and real estate fields, Christie's and Southeby's would have a hard time re-entering the field today, given the already-established competition from Metropolis, Heritage and Comiclink.

[keldog]

A lot of higher end auction houses are still hesitant to hold full blown comic book auctions.

 

Respectfully disagree. The Southeby's comic book auctions of the later '80s/early '90s did much to legitimize comic collecting among the fine art and Wall Street crowd.

 

The reason they stopped wasn't the lack of profitability, but rather that Heritage came in with a specific specialty niche in comic books.

 

Even with their legacy reps in the antiques and real estate fields, Christie's and Southeby's would have a hard time re-entering the field today, given the already-established competition from Metropolis, Heritage and Comiclink.

+1

[TheAmazing R.J.S.]

Don't know if you guys heard of this show its called "Hard Core Pawn Shop" its filmed right hear in my home town Detroit. Wish I was there that day

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bgtkGuab0E

[mintcollector]

A lot of higher end auction houses are still hesitant to hold full blown comic book auctions.

 

Respectfully disagree. The Southeby's comic book auctions of the later '80s/early '90s did much to legitimize comic collecting among the fine art and Wall Street crowd.

 

The reason they stopped wasn't the lack of profitability, but rather that Heritage came in with a specific specialty niche in comic books.

 

Even with their legacy reps in the antiques and real estate fields, Christie's and Southeby's would have a hard time re-entering the field today, given the already-established competition from Metropolis, Heritage and Comiclink.

 

Incorrect. They hadn't had any major sales since. Neither has Morphy Auctions, Neither has James D, Julia or Bertolia.

 

It takes one phone call to ask a high end auctioneer what they think of the market. Please ask. If they have a consignment like a high end pedigree collection I can assure you they will take it. I can also assure you it is not their core audience, nor will it ever be accepted at present time.