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Daredevil recommendations from any time period needed

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More often that not, DD was always a good read. Between a hero with few superpowers has always made for endless storyline possibilities.

 

His origin story was pretty decent. Any Deathstalker, Bullseye related storyline was worth reading. Brubaker in v2 was great. Most of the 301+ issues in v1 you can pass over with some exceptions.

 

I don't think there is a character quite like him. I kind of wanted a new series where is identity was secret again, but it looks like they are going the other way with that.

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Somehow someway Daredevil became the book that sold poorly enough to allow really creative teams to take him in directions normally reserved for more disposable characters, but sold well enough to be constantly on the bookshelves for 50 years now.

 

I'm not sure if that is what makes DD my favorite, but he's the last books that would ever leave my collection. I have every DD book from the beginning to present day, and can't wait for the Netflix series, because I'll take anything to get him on the screen live again.

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Then goofy Gerry Conway took over (the convoluted Mr. Kline storyline in DD, Iron Man, and Sub-Mariner - echh) in the early '70s and the book was almost unreadable.

Finally the comic book blood lust phase arrived, couched in the pretense of dark edgy writing, "sharp bone into soft brain" ... really? I can't read those stories more than once.

 

Give me Lee and Colan, Murdock (both Matt and Mike :D ) and Foggy Nelson, with Karen page as the naive secretary, not a drug addled porn star (that was beyond disgusting). You guys can have the rest.

 

A standout issue for me; DD #15, "And Men Shall Call Him Ox!"

'nuff said.

 

I don’t recall the Gerry Conway issues (I’m not a full-fledged Daredevil reader) but the Steve Gerber period is very original, especially with the Widow and Shanna… :cloud9:

 

I must read the #15, I have just grabbed the #6… :whee:

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I'm a BIG DD fan with a compete run so in throwing my 2 pence in:

There are a few great nostalgic issues before Miller 168 such as 2 of my all time favourites DD 77 and DD annual 4 with black panther.

But comics just changed dramatically with F Miller DD.

Miller's whole run 168-191 followed by Elektra lives again

Born Again - the greatest story of alltime?

Love and war

After that for me it went downhill quickly and I never warned to Ann nocenti's writing.

297-300 last rites, fall of Kingpin

Fall from grace not a bad read

Then Bendis buts things on track a great run, only Decalogue chapter is a bit boring.

Leads into Brubakers run, which again is suberb and contains one of my favourite story lines 82-87 Devil inside out. DD fighting with Punisher in a prison with Kingpin and Bullsye!!

DD Yellow by Tim sale - a lovely nostalgic look

And the ultimate DD origin story, DD man without man 1-5 with JRJR best work to date, try and get the original issues because the page quality and cover embossed where suberb.

 

Phew (thumbs u

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S'funny, i must have thought fairly highly of the DD Man without Fear story once upon a time. With all the love for it in this thread I thought I would take mine out, maybe read them, and maybe offer them for sale here. Then I get them out and BAM! All signed on the covers. I remembered geting the JRJR on there, but all the issues have Al Williamson sigs and 2 have Frank Miller sigs. thing is, I only recall getting Frank's signature once (Chicago con 1995ish, stayed in the Sofitel and swam in the pool with Steve Seagel - the comic writer not the actor- and his buddies). Had a drink with frank at the bar (but couldn't afford a second one as I was darn broke). I also have 2 copies of issue 1. So to recap, issue 1 signed by Frank Miller and Al Williamson, other issue 1 signed by Al and also JRJR, issue 2, frank and Al, issues 3-5 Al and JRJR. My daughter is on the other computer with the scanner doing homework so I cannot scan them. But if someone wants them I may part with them. I can't grade and won't even try though. (Maybe I'll throw one or two up in the grade my books thread this weekend.) But commerce aside, I rcall Frank only signing maybe 2 books at a time, had my wife stand with me and got Elektra Lives Again signed as well. I just checked, my fear was I had gotten Spawn Batman signed as the fourth book, but it was DD 181, best comic ever! I also have Mazz sigs on my Batman Year One and don't even recall getting them. I used to truck multiple boxes to cons and run to the car all day switching out books. now I just get OA!

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A whole lot of :applause: and :whee:

 

I know, right! It made me happy to see those sigs.

 

So I quickly put up both issue 1s in the buddy can you spare a grade thread.Let's see what I got! I think they are in daggone great condition.

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No one liked the marvel knights first few stories? The bullseye line (something like) "hey red i think this is yours" and send the bclub killing karen page...!

 

I also have in mind the following comics, with matt going almost crazy, becayse he still felt all the scents/ odeurs of Karen... it was great!

 

And Quesada as focus on the art...

 

The echo character/ art was great, by David Mack!

 

regards

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Born Again was flat out awesome. I also loved the Brubaker and Bendis DD runs. Very well done, I have read them 3-4 times already. I know the DMack issues were not really popular but the more I read them the more I loved them. So many little hidden things in the artwork, fantastic.

 

 

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I'm a BIG DD fan with a compete run so in throwing my 2 pence in:

There are a few great nostalgic issues before Miller 168 such as 2 of my all time favourites DD 77 and DD annual 4 with black panther.

But comics just changed dramatically with F Miller DD.

Miller's whole run 168-191 followed by Elektra lives again

Born Again - the greatest story of alltime?

Love and war

After that for me it went downhill quickly and I never warned to Ann nocenti's writing.

297-300 last rites, fall of Kingpin

Fall from grace not a bad read

Then Bendis buts things on track a great run, only Decalogue chapter is a bit boring.

Leads into Brubakers run, which again is suberb and contains one of my favourite story lines 82-87 Devil inside out. DD fighting with Punisher in a prison with Kingpin and Bullsye!!

DD Yellow by Tim sale - a lovely nostalgic look

And the ultimate DD origin story, DD man without man 1-5 with JRJR best work to date, try and get the original issues because the page quality and cover embossed where suberb.

 

Phew (thumbs u

 

I agree with most of this. I liked born again but not as much as some. I thought it started stronger than it finished.

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I don’t think of pre-Miller Daredevil as anything "nostalgic": one may like all the things Miller have retroactively introduced, but for a long time they have been too exclusively defining the work of the new writers.

 

I can’t be nostalgic about Daredevil because I did not grow up with the character, and in the end I think I appreciated Born Again but Miller tended to be excessively dramatic and not in a good way, IMO.

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I'm a huge Daredevil fan, but two of my absolute favorite stories come from the last 15 years--both from Volume 2.

 

"Wake Up"--believe it was vol. 2 # 16-21 or so. One of Bendis's earliest stories and it's haunting. Boy witnesses a traumatic event involving his father and goes catatonic. Narrated by Ben Reilly ("Marvels"), the investigative journalist trying to both help the boy and piece together exactly what happened. It's also the sequel to Daredevil vol. 1 # 25.

 

vol. 2 # 82-87 (first Brubaker story). Phenomenal. Kingpin gets Matt (who is known to be Daredevil) sent to jail, and orchestrates it so his entire rogue's gallery is locked in with him on the same cell block. Frank Castle gets wind of this & gets himself arrested so he can act as Matt's de facto bodyguard. And Marvel gets major kudos for never once putting The Punisher on the cover.

 

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vol. 2 # 82-87 (first Brubaker story). Phenomenal. Kingpin gets Matt (who is known to be Daredevil) sent to jail, and orchestrates it so his entire rogue's gallery is locked in with him on the same cell block. Frank Castle gets wind of this & gets himself arrested so he can act as Matt's de facto bodyguard. And Marvel gets major kudos for never once putting The Punisher on the cover.

 

That was just SO freaken good! Probably one of my favourites also.

 

I love how all the writers in Vol 2. ended their runs with a huge cliffhanger that the new writer had to work their way around. Bendis put DD in jail, like you said, and Brubaker had to come in and figure out a way to mop it up.

 

Kevin Smith killed Karen Page. Brubaker basically ended by setting up Shadowland for Diggle, etc.

 

 

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Yeah--vol. 2 had some gems. One of my other favorite scenes was around issue 41 or 42, right after Matt's identity becomes public:

 

Stilt Man shows up at his law offices and just gives Matt his costume and hydraulics, proclaiming, "All these year's I've been beaten by a blind guy? I give up!"

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The more I start remembering the Bendis run the more I appreciate it. I blew through it so fast in a week or two because I loved it so much, I have to go back and reread it. It was just great. :cloud9:

 

Even this confrontation with Bullseye.

 

 

Where Bullseye shows up in out of the shadows at Matt's house and is ready to kill yet another of Matt's girlfriends. :eek: Just a feeling of suspense, shock and horror and so well written/illustrated.

 

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Matt surprises the reader busting in and saving Milla and throws Bullseye out the window screaming "Get out of my House!" You just get the sense of an invasion of privacy and the breaking of a barrier between superhero and civilian life.

 

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Finally, you see just how angry and how much Bullseye has pushed Daredevil. He carves a bullseye into his forehead with there circles:

 

"I'll give you something to think about... this circle is for Elektra... and this circle is for Karen...and this center point right here...is for when you finally realize no one cares. That I don't care about you! "

 

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:headbang:

 

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