gadzukes Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 10:10 PM, BLUECHIPCOLLECTIBLES said: No, because the leaf cast portion would have to be trimmed in order to have any shape resembling the edges of a comic book. You do realize that every comic book in existence has been trimmed to size right? I'm saying that if you leafcast the extra 1/16" or 1/8" to the edge and trim it to the original size that the comic would have been, then CT the appropriate color/designs to the leafcast it would restore the pretrimmed/original look. Surely this has been done to a restored comic by this time. I was just wondering if the "trimmed" designation gets removed at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) On 11/3/2021 at 2:42 AM, gadzukes said: Surely this has been done to a restored comic by this time. I was just wondering if the "trimmed" designation gets removed at that point. if this was the case you wouldn't find a single restored key with trimmed designation @Ze-man Edited November 3, 2021 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/3/2021 at 12:50 AM, Gotham Kid said: if this was the case you wouldn't find a single restored key with trimmed designation @Ze-man You may have a point. But I do wonder if it's been tried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Yes, it can be done. gadzukes and aardvark88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmjr1 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 9:42 PM, gadzukes said: You do realize that every comic book in existence has been trimmed to size right? I'm saying that if you leafcast the extra 1/16" or 1/8" to the edge and trim it to the original size that the comic would have been, then CT the appropriate color/designs to the leafcast it would restore the pretrimmed/original look. Surely this has been done to a restored comic by this time. I was just wondering if the "trimmed" designation gets removed at that point. I can answer definitively- NO. Because I submitted a Tec 27 to Matt Nelson to evaluate for that very thing about 8 years ago. It's a 6.5 B-3 with a right edge trim of a little more than 1/8". He told me that CGC confirmed the leaf casting would NOT remove the "right edge trimmed" designation, and would also result in a B-5 on the restoration. I considered getting the leaf casting done anyway, because I hate the trimming, but literally everyone I consulted about it advised me not to do it. I remember talking to Gator about it a couple of times. In retrospect, I'm glad I didn't do it. I'll live with the book as it is. Gotham Kid and KCOComics 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quicksilver Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 That's what Matt told me too, so I took my book elsewhere. The place I went to said that Matt told him that he always had to declare the trimming, presumably because of his association with CGC. Resto guys who are not associated with CGC do not have to declare it, so, if the leafcasting work etc is done well enough, then the book loses it's trimmed designation. This is a fact in my case - my book is no longer trimmed. Gotham Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 4:16 AM, quicksilver said: That's what Matt told me too, so I took my book elsewhere. The place I went to said that Matt told him that he always had to declare the trimming, presumably because of his association with CGC. Resto guys who are not associated with CGC do not have to declare it, so, if the leafcasting work etc is done well enough, then the book loses it's trimmed designation. This is a fact in my case - my book is no longer trimmed. Congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 11:09 PM, twmjr1 said: I'll live with the book as it is. No, you will sell it to me. You will sleep better knowing you no longer have a trimmed book haunting you. GreatCaesarsGhost, Chicago Boy and KCOComics 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmjr1 Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/7/2021 at 2:49 AM, Gotham Kid said: No, you will sell it to me. You will sleep better knowing you no longer have a trimmed book haunting you. LOL! Good one. But in all seriousness: Is a moderately restored (B-3) book with an edge trim preferable to, say, an extensively restored (B-5) with leaf casting to remove the "edge trimmed" CGC designation? I think probably the former? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCOComics Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 On 11/8/2021 at 11:15 AM, twmjr1 said: LOL! Good one. But in all seriousness: Is a moderately restored (B-3) book with an edge trim preferable to, say, an extensively restored (B-5) with leaf casting to remove the "edge trimmed" CGC designation? I think probably the former? Depending on eye appeal, I would take a moderately restored with trimming over an extensively restored. It really comes down to personal preference. And with a book of that caliber, I wouldn't be very picky. I would just be happy to own that one! gadzukes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) Cap 1 5.5 "conserved" on Clink. $71,000 I honestly am not sure what to think of that price. Part of me thinks it might be low (but I think it's because I have a conserved Cap 1 ) https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%26pg%3D5%23Item_1530100&id=1530100&itemType=0 Edited December 8, 2021 by gadzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 6:50 PM, gadzukes said: Cap 1 5.5 "conserved" on Clink. $71,000 I honestly am not sure what to think of that price. Part of me thinks it might be low (but I think it's because I have a conserved Cap 1 ) https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%26pg%3D5%23Item_1530100&id=1530100&itemType=0 I think this same copy sold previously for $63k on August of this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 2:04 AM, Dark Knight said: I think this same copy sold previously for $63k on August of this year Was that another Clink auction? I don't see it on GPA. Nice little 4 month profit if it's the same comic. Edited December 8, 2021 by gadzukes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Knight Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 7:35 AM, gadzukes said: Was that another Clink auction? I don't see it on GPA. Nice little 4 month profit if it's the same comic. Yep.. "Sold" on CL or who knows, maybe wasn't paid for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ltpink2002 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 9:35 AM, gadzukes said: Was that another Clink auction? I don't see it on GPA. Nice little 4 month profit if it's the same comic. Not much profit after auction fees. Gotham Kid 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gadzukes Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) On 12/9/2021 at 1:10 AM, Ltpink2002 said: Not much profit after auction fees. OMG...... I wasn't even thinking of that, but you're absolutely right. Let me rephrase what I posted, "Nice little 4 month profit for Clink." Edited December 9, 2021 by gadzukes Ltpink2002, Gotham Kid, KCOComics and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaydogrules Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) On 12/7/2021 at 6:50 PM, gadzukes said: Cap 1 5.5 "conserved" on Clink. $71,000 I honestly am not sure what to think of that price. Part of me thinks it might be low (but I think it's because I have a conserved Cap 1 ) https://www.comiclink.com/auctions/item.asp?back=%2FAuctions%2Fdefault.asp%3FFocused%3D1%26pg%3D5%23Item_1530100&id=1530100&itemType=0 "Conserved" and married. Isn't that like , what , about 25% blue label value? -J. Edited December 9, 2021 by Jaydogrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 12/9/2021 at 6:44 PM, Jaydogrules said: "Conserved" and married. Isn't that like , what , about 25% blue label value? -J. not a mega key I would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laszlo the Mudjar Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Obviously a couple years late to the party, but add my name to the club roster. Now to save a couple hundred grand, hah! What about another club for any of the Kirby&Simon first 11 books? Is that a thing yet? KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laszlo the Mudjar Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 The reason I ask is because clearly most of us can't afford a CA 1, but I'd love to own a piece of Kirby comic history from the '40s/ KCOComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
