ASM 300 on fire

[kav]

Kav, sometimes you are a riot. McFarlane average?

 

to be fair, context is everything. At the time this was huge. All of this is subjective.

 

Say what you want but the cover of 300 is iconic.

 

I like McFarlane but there are better artists

 

 

 

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

[chrisco37]

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

I don't know about that.

 

What you call a pretty standard pose wasn't at that time. McFarlane was really the first guy I can think of that put Spidey in the super contorted "spider" poses.

 

I wouldn't call his stuff "stiff" at all. It doesn't look as good now as it did (especially the people/faces), but his Spidey is still pretty top notch. Guys today are still copying that "look" and the web.

[jsilverjanet]

Kav, sometimes you are a riot. McFarlane average?

 

to be fair, context is everything. At the time this was huge. All of this is subjective.

 

Say what you want but the cover of 300 is iconic.

 

I like McFarlane but there are better artists

 

 

 

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

The same could be said of folks who grew up on Kirby/Ditko etc.

 

*for the record I'm not saying that

[jsilverjanet]

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

I don't know about that.

 

What you call a pretty standard pose wasn't at that time. McFarlane was really the first guy I can think of that put Spidey in the super contorted "spider" poses.

 

I wouldn't call his stuff "stiff" at all. It doesn't look as good now as it did (especially the people/faces), but his Spidey is still pretty top notch. Guys today are still copying that "look" and the web.

 

+1

 

It was completely different. Look at the art in the issues leading up to 298. It was

[kav]

I'm willing to say he's a decent artist.

Greatest of all time? No way.

Equal to Neal Adams? Nope.

[THE_BEYONDER]

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

I don't know about that.

 

What you call a pretty standard pose wasn't at that time. McFarlane was really the first guy I can think of that put Spidey in the super contorted "spider" poses.

 

I wouldn't call his stuff "stiff" at all. It doesn't look as good now as it did (especially the people/faces), but his Spidey is still pretty top notch. Guys today are still copying that "look" and the web.

 

+1

 

It was completely different. Look at the art in the issues leading up to 298. It was

 

Frenz was amazing.

[kav]

BOOM goes the dynamite

[jsilverjanet]

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

I don't know about that.

 

What you call a pretty standard pose wasn't at that time. McFarlane was really the first guy I can think of that put Spidey in the super contorted "spider" poses.

 

I wouldn't call his stuff "stiff" at all. It doesn't look as good now as it did (especially the people/faces), but his Spidey is still pretty top notch. Guys today are still copying that "look" and the web.

 

+1

 

It was completely different. Look at the art in the issues leading up to 298. It was

 

Frenz was amazing.

 

with the exception of some (Frenz, Sienkiewicz, Zeck) the rest of the books are

 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

True but Liefeld was also huge. I think people that grew up with McFarlane have an inflated view of his work cause its part of their childhood. Objectively though, his anatomy was often awkward and stiff. ASM 300 may be iconic but there's really not much there-just a drawing of spiderman in a pretty standard pose. Fan pin-up stuff.

 

I don't know about that.

 

What you call a pretty standard pose wasn't at that time. McFarlane was really the first guy I can think of that put Spidey in the super contorted "spider" poses.

 

I wouldn't call his stuff "stiff" at all. It doesn't look as good now as it did (especially the people/faces), but his Spidey is still pretty top notch. Guys today are still copying that "look" and the web.

 

+1

 

It was completely different. Look at the art in the issues leading up to 298. It was

 

Frenz was amazing.

 

with the exception of some (Frenz, Sienkiewicz, Zeck) the rest of the books are

 

 

Frenz was awful.

 

He made MJ look like a homeless woman (see ASM #259.)

 

She was a damn SUIPERMODEL.

[jsilverjanet]

examples

 

 

 

[jsilverjanet]

[RockMyAmadeus]

To be fair, #296 is a pretty decent Byrne cover.

 

Try #297. Or #291.

[jsilverjanet]

I wanted to do 297 but didn't have time - work :shrug: plus I thought white background vs white background (298)

 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

I wanted to do 297 but didn't have time - work :shrug: plus I thought white background vs white background (298)

 

 

Then #290.

 

Pretty boring Milgrom cover,

[RockMyAmadeus]

 

MONSTER PICTURE!!!

[jsilverjanet]

 

291

 

 

290

 

 

[jsilverjanet]

I believe this a 'Purple Rain' tie in

 

 

 

[kav]

Spiderman looks kinda awkward and husky in that 291

[kav]

288 the chick on the ground gets the Liefeld award

[RockMyAmadeus]

Felicity's costume was a TOTAL reflection of the period.

 

 

It's really amazing...pun slightly intended...how different McFarlane was when he took over the book.

 

And when you think about it...there had never BEEN a "hot artist" on Spidey ever before.

 

It was a perfect storm.

 

And, if kav is still struggling to understand what it is that everyone is saying about me, no, I didn't "grow up" with McFarlane, and didn't buy a single McFarlane Amazing new.