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Black Panther official movie thread (11/3/17)
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54 minutes ago, marvelcollector said:

How exactly are the totals adjusted?

Titanic's adjustment is nearly double. Prices (CPI) haven't doubled since 1997.

When you are comparing such movies based on equal buying power of the USD, statisticians have created inflation calculators which factor in the U.S. Labor Department's Bureau of Labor Statistics charts. Sites like Box Office Mojo have created their own stats models, as that site tries to factor in varying ticket prices such as IMAX and 3-D. But the flaw with that is assuming all economic variables were the same across the ages.

So you are right. If you just go with straight dollars the differences even between a few years can be significant.

- Spider-Man (2002): $821,708,551 (2002 USD worldwide total)

- Spider-Man (2002): $1,132,153,604 (2018 USD worldwide total)

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1 hour ago, marvelcollector said:

How exactly are the totals adjusted?

Titanic's adjustment is nearly double. Prices (CPI) haven't doubled since 1997.

Put another way, Box Office Mojo calculates that while the general CPI hasn't doubled in the past 21 years, average movie ticket prices literally have...from $4.59 in 1997 to $9.18 today.

I can believe that.

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2 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

Put another way, Box Office Mojo calculates that while the general CPI hasn't doubled in the past 21 years, average movie ticket prices literally have...from $4.59 in 1997 to $9.18 today.

I can believe that.

The Consumer Price Index (CPI) would actually account for something you just assumed was more than the CPI.

The CPI measures the change in prices paid by consumers for goods and services.

Of course cost of goods and services have drastically multiplied. Especially over decades.

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4 minutes ago, marvelcollector said:

The CPI since 1997 is 55%. That would put Titanic at about 1.02 billion.

It must be specifically movie ticket prices, as the previous poster stated.

CPI at 55% is an average of multiple goods and services. Some are going to be way higher. Some are going to be way lower. But in the combined average, those large variances get lost.

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2 hours ago, Gatsby77 said:

Put another way, Box Office Mojo calculates that while the general CPI hasn't doubled in the past 21 years, average movie ticket prices literally have...from $4.59 in 1997 to $9.18 today.

I can believe that.

exactly. 

From Box Office Mojo: * Adjusted to the estimated 2018 average ticket price of $9.18. Inflation-adjustment is mostly done by multiplying estimated admissions by the latest average ticket price. Where admissions are unavailable, adjustment is based on the average ticket price for when each movie was released (taking in to account re-releases where applicable).

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4 hours ago, paperheart said:

(worship)  Hail Wakanda  

3X JL US :roflmao:

Or, put another way, BP has now made more domestically than JL's entire worldwide run.

I would like to see some of Mendelson's pretzel logic for that $300MM++ budget bomb now.  

-J.

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1 hour ago, paperheart said:

exactly. 

From Box Office Mojo: * Adjusted to the estimated 2018 average ticket price of $9.18. Inflation-adjustment is mostly done by multiplying estimated admissions by the latest average ticket price. Where admissions are unavailable, adjustment is based on the average ticket price for when each movie was released (taking in to account re-releases where applicable).

EXACTLY how Box Office Mojo attempts to convey USD inflated. Meanwhile, it assumed a lot like 3-D and IMAX ticket prices for older movies and what those would have cost back in the good ole days.

Yeah - exactly!

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5 hours ago, paperheart said:

(worship)  Hail Wakanda  

3X JL US :roflmao:

Wait. I thought the new measure was how much more profitable Wonder Woman was compared to all its in-year Marvel movies. You know - because that's what you fine ladies would do for a few months if the stats were the reverse.

No. 6 ‘Wonder Woman’ Box Office Profits – 2017 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

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THE BOTTOM LINE

Batman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice generated more in overall revenues than Wonder Woman, $681.5M to $659.1M. But Jenkins’ movie yields an astounding 139% more in profit with $252.9M.

 

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No. 7 ‘Spider-Man: Homecoming’ Box Office Profits – 2017 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

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What a difference it makes having Marvel involved: Spider-Man: Homecoming generated $200.1M in profit, 184% more than the $70.3M earned by the 2014 webslinger title The Amazing Spider-Man 2.

 

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No. 8 ‘Thor: Ragnarok’ Box Office Profits – 2017 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

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Thor: Ragnarok reaped more in profit than Thor: Dark World, $174.2M to $139.4M. This despite the rise in production costs from $170M to $180M, and participation that grew from an estimated $12M to $50M.

 

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No. 9 ‘Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol. 2’ Box Office Profits – 2017 Most Valuable Blockbuster Tournament

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Despite making more money at the box office than the first GOTG, Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 generates a slightly smaller profit at $154.7M than its first chapter’s $204.2M.

 

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Heck, with Spider-Man Homecoming having an estimated $157M Print & Ad budget, I assumed you all would be talking this to death.

 

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Ah yes- The famous "but some article says it was 'more profitable'" participation trophy that Wonder Woman gets for making less money than every single MCU movie last year.  

I hear Scott Mendelson's phone ringing again.  

lol

(And I see you still don't know the difference between a marketing budget and the "media value" of a promotional campaign and are still spreading your fake news around here.)

-J.

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