Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC??? 42 42

[wiparker824]

On 7/16/2023 at 2:35 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

I wonder if anyone is out there scratching their head after receiving their 4.5 book back in a 1.5 slab? 

For the record it’s not my book, I just posted it. It’s for sale on eBay though https://www.ebay.com/itm/305027018486

The owner isn’t being deceptive about the resto and judging by the number of books they’re selling they don’t seem new to this hobby, so I’d guess they were surprised by everything even in the description the owner says it’s “baffling”. 

Not the best look for CGC to have this one sitting out there on eBay. 

Edited July 16, 2023 by wiparker824
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[zzutak]

The back cover is just as beat as the front! 

[CGC Mike]

On 7/16/2023 at 1:13 PM, wiparker824 said:

A 4.5 seems generous, but even more generous is the blue label. 

Is this your book, @wiparker824?

Edit:  Never mind.  I see it's on Ebay!  

[mattn792]

On 7/16/2023 at 3:51 PM, zzutak said:

@CGC Mike, I can't think of a better way of destroying a once-admired brand.  Certifying this "reader" as a CGC 4.5 is a farce.  If you examine the Grader Notes, this book is actually weaker than it appears in the posted front cover scan.  I don't think I've ever seen a more bogus grade. 

Here are just three examples of a "correctly graded" ASM #5 in CGC 4.5:

 

And to add insult to injury, this reader should have been encapsulated with a Purple Label.  The Grader(s), the Encapsulation Room staff, and the QC Inspector all whiffed on this.  Three separate strikes on a single pitch. 

They also failed to mention "slight front cover missing"...

[justafan]

This book's pages are so white that they must have used white on white font when printing the grade and PQ label.  Or perhaps CGC is now using color (or absence of) to indicate the PQ of the book.  That or they couldn't agree on the PQ and just left it blank as a cop-out for you to interpret the PQ you think it is.  It's not listed in the CGC cert verification page. No grader's notes either so you have to interpret the grade as well.

[RockMyAmadeus]

 

Edited July 17, 2023 by RockMyAmadeus

[RockMyAmadeus]

On 7/16/2023 at 1:51 PM, zzutak said:

@CGC Mike, I can't think of a better way of destroying a once-admired brand.  Certifying this "reader" as a CGC 4.5 is a farce.  If you examine the Grader Notes, this book is actually weaker than it appears in the posted front cover scan.  I don't think I've ever seen a more bogus grade. 

Here are just three examples of a "correctly graded" ASM #5 in CGC 4.5:

 

And to add insult to injury, this reader should have been encapsulated with a Purple Label.  The Grader(s), the Encapsulation Room staff, and the QC Inspector all whiffed on this.  Three separate strikes on a single pitch. 

 

[RockMyAmadeus]

[Get Marwood & I]

On 7/16/2023 at 10:35 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

I wonder if anyone is out there scratching their head after receiving their 4.5 book back in a 1.5 slab? 

Cor, I was only .5 off! 

[ExNihilo]

On 7/16/2023 at 10:28 PM, RockMyAmadeus said:

 

@CGC Mike Seems to me the right course of action for CGC would be to reach out to the seller on eBay to try to remedy it, or buy the book so it's off the market, fix the label, and recoup some costs via auction or giveaway or something.  Whatever it takes to remove that embarrassment from the marketplace.

[StillOnly25Cents]

On 7/17/2023 at 1:43 AM, ExNihilo said:

@CGC Mike Seems to me the right course of action for CGC would be to find out which 3 graders at CGC graded the book or who labeled it

fixed

Edited July 17, 2023 by StillOnly25Cents

[ExNihilo]

On 7/16/2023 at 11:56 PM, StillOnly25Cents said:

fixed

When you're right, you're right.  Let's add the encapsulation department and QC (as noted by others on the previous page)

Edited July 17, 2023 by ExNihilo

[Gaard]

3?

[Get Marwood & I]

On 7/17/2023 at 9:58 AM, Gaard said:

3?

 

[CGC Mike]

On 7/17/2023 at 2:43 AM, ExNihilo said:

@CGC Mike Seems to me the right course of action for CGC would be to reach out to the seller on eBay to try to remedy it, or buy the book so it's off the market, fix the label, and recoup some costs via auction or giveaway or something.  Whatever it takes to remove that embarrassment from the marketplace.

I did reach out to the team regarding this.  

[zzutak]

A sound theory by GM&I and great detective work to prove that theory by RMA.   

To recap for the sake of @CGC Mike, CGC should now be looking to recall not one but two certified/encapsulated books: a 2.0 ASM #5 "reader" that's mistakenly sitting in a 4.5 holder, and an "apparent" 4.5 ASM #5 with amateur restoration (C-1) that's been mistakenly encapsulated with a Universal label (S/N 4267166003 and S/N 4267166004). 

[CGC Mike]

On 7/17/2023 at 7:53 AM, zzutak said:

A sound theory by GM&I and great detective work to prove that theory by RMA.   

To recap for the sake of @CGC Mike, CGC should now be looking to recall not one but two certified/encapsulated books: a 2.0 ASM #5 "reader" that's mistakenly sitting in a 4.5 holder, and an "apparent" 4.5 ASM #5 with amateur restoration (C-1) that's been mistakenly encapsulated with a Universal label (S/N 4267166003 and S/N 4267166004). 

Yes.  All of the info has been sent to the team.  Thanks everyone for the great detective work.

[RockMyAmadeus]

 

[wiparker824]

On 7/17/2023 at 5:29 AM, RockMyAmadeus said:

 

Lol. Tell him you work for the NSA and you’ve got your eye on him. 

[RockMyAmadeus]