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Where in the world was the Quality Control at CGC???
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onlyweaknesskryptonite

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Ok. So I  originally sent 4 books to the Terry Austin signing of those 3 had to make a return trip.  I just got those back today. You can see the full story here.

 

I have 2 problems with these that just returned.  First the reason all 3 have to go back.  Puddling. 20220512_182454.thumb.jpg.646d6f8da15296bd014a3e10b574dd19.jpg20220512_182426.thumb.jpg.6eb7b9119e3e3cc6f327a1e2b676cd6e.jpg

 

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On 5/13/2022 at 9:39 AM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Ok. So I  originally sent 4 books to the Terry Austin signing of those 3 had to make a return trip.  I just got those back today. You can see the full story here.

 

I have 2 problems with these that just returned.  First the reason all 3 have to go back.  Puddling. 20220512_182454.thumb.jpg.646d6f8da15296bd014a3e10b574dd19.jpg20220512_182426.thumb.jpg.6eb7b9119e3e3cc6f327a1e2b676cd6e.jpg

 

They're holdered back to front... is that we're seeing here?

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First of all if this book had happend any other time I might have deferred to CGCs opinion, shrugged and said maybe I missed it (although I seriously doubt it had staples that looked untouched, all tight and had similar cover debris / discoloration as well as the cut of the covers.) 

Raw. Prior to clean / press / signing

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So this book . I sent the first time for a press, clean, and signing.  CCS did clean the outside cover , but best I can figure they (Like CGC ) didn't even open it the first time [they missed the double cover] and just pressed it.

1st time received back.

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Instead what I believe happened is that CCS cleaned only the outside cover then humidity/ press which now has caused the internal cover to look worse and when CGC got this back on its second trip they jump to married as the explanation of a lower grade cover inside. :facepalm: plus the insert?!?! 

Scans just now.

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It will have to go back yet again for a review as I think some new grader got his mits on this and just didn't know what he was looking at and said married. :facepalm:

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On 5/10/2022 at 9:14 AM, joeypost said:

We have our own thread on this topic. 
 

Puddling

On 5/8/2022 at 4:07 AM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

+1 

Also some of these "bubble" or curvature deformations can leave impressions on books. Which has been known a puddling.  

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https://the-comic-book-forum.boards.net/thread/924/cgc-puddling

 

 

On 5/12/2022 at 6:43 PM, Microchip said:

They're holdered back to front... is that we're seeing here?

No it was mentioned just a few pages ago above are the quotes and here is another thread .

 

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On 5/12/2022 at 6:53 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

 

First of all if this book had happend any other time I might have deferred to CGCs opinion, shrugged and said maybe I missed it (although I seriously doubt it had staples that looked untouched, all tight and had similar cover debris / discoloration as well as the cut of the covers.) 

Raw. Prior to clean / press / signing

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So this book . I sent the first time for a press, clean, and signing.  CCS did clean the outside cover , but best I can figure they (Like CGC ) didn't even open it the first time [they missed the double cover] and just pressed it.

1st time received back.

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Instead what I believe happened is that CCS cleaned only the outside cover then humidity/ press which now has caused the internal cover to look worse and when CGC got this back on its second trip they jump to married as the explanation of a lower grade cover inside. :facepalm: plus the insert?!?! 

Scans just now.

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It will have to go back yet again for a review as I think some new grader got his mits on this and just didn't know what he was looking at and said married. :facepalm:

I really hope they fix this!  That’s terrible!

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On 5/12/2022 at 7:27 PM, Beastfeast said:
On 5/12/2022 at 7:21 PM, Iconic1s said:

 

Yet I continue to care about CGC’s opinion of my books!

I think a lot of us only care about their opinion because of what their opinion adds to the value of our dumb books.  

I have been, but this book now having been through them twice. this issue and the ever growing number of issues I am seeing here and other places. .

I am really starting question their opinion.  :facepalm: ( and i know I am not the only one) 

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On 5/12/2022 at 6:32 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

I have been, but this book now having been through them twice. this issue and the ever growing number of issues I am seeing here and other places. .

I am really starting question their opinion.  :facepalm: ( and i know I am not the only one) 

You’re not the only one, for sure.  That’s why I stopped submitting stuff.  I don’t trust the ‘product’ anymore.

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On 5/12/2022 at 6:35 PM, Galen130 said:

You’re not the only one, for sure.  That’s why I stopped submitting stuff.  I don’t trust the ‘product’ anymore.

Ditto

I sent in around 100 books in the past year, I easily have 50 more I'd like to, but not going to

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On 5/13/2022 at 9:58 AM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

 

No it was mentioned just a few pages ago above are the quotes and here is another thread .

 

I get it now.  You've taken a lot of time and effort to get the books signed, and prepared for CGC, and they return encapsulated looking like oversized ashtrays.   Not the best day at the office.

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On 5/12/2022 at 6:39 PM, onlyweaknesskryptonite said:

Ok. So I  originally sent 4 books to the Terry Austin signing of those 3 had to make a return trip.  I just got those back today. 

 

I have 2 problems with these that just returned.  First the reason all 3 have to go back.  Puddling. 

I've said some of this before.  

I defended CGC and liked their product/service for almost 2 decades.

But they could not f***ing pay me to send any of my books in for grading right now.

I've spent entirely too many years tracking down copies that I'm happy with.......and I absolutely will not let some ham-handed "experts" screw them up and then frisbee them straight through their quality control department.

It's gotten to the point that they should have someone go around and do a head-up-your-rectum inspection before work is allowed to begin each morning.

Good grief. :facepalm:

 

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On 5/13/2022 at 8:41 AM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Yellow label but no signature.

 

I thought this had something to do with the custom Perez design only being made on the yellow labels. I guess they'd rather use the labels than just reprint blue ones when the signing got cancelled. (shrug)

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On 5/13/2022 at 8:22 AM, wardevil0 said:

I thought this had something to do with the custom Perez design only being made on the yellow labels. I guess they'd rather use the labels than just reprint blue ones when the signing got cancelled. (shrug)

I got mine back in a blue custom GP label. I think this is just another daily CGC blunder/QC issue that apparently no one at the company cares about anymore. I’m sure the cookie cutter announcement we will get “soon” will fix things. I have a ton of books I want to get graded but I’m not even going to entertain the thought anymore. My biggest fear when I used to send books in was USPS losing or damaging books.  Now that fear is on the company that is supposed to protect the books. 

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On 5/13/2022 at 8:13 AM, sevans1979 said:

I got mine back in a blue custom GP label. I think this is just another daily CGC blunder/QC issue that apparently no one at the company cares about anymore. I’m sure the cookie cutter announcement we will get “soon” will fix things. I have a ton of books I want to get graded but I’m not even going to entertain the thought anymore. My biggest fear when I used to send books in was USPS losing or damaging books.  Now that fear is on the company that is supposed to protect the books. 

This right here

I'm worried that 2020 to 2022 will have the market name this period of CGC grading as "garbage" instead of loose or strict

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I haven't looked at this book for a while, I was taking some pictures of the run and did a double take. I think the book was graded in 2017, I bought it slabbed. The artist is Woggins, I have no idea who John Lucas is, but he was not a Katy Keene artist that I can recall and the date should be 1954 not, 1986

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