Stop Marvel From Replacing X-Men With Inhumans!

[VintageComics]

Over saturation of any medium is bad economics.

 

Capitalism takes the money as soon as it can, as fast as it can and as long as it can.

 

Are you telling me if you were staring at a multibillion dollar investment that you'd just sit around and wait a bit or would you put pieces into action right away?

 

They've found a business model and they are pumping out what they can as soon as they can to cash in on it. We just happen to enjoy the product.

 

When and if over saturation happens do you think they are going to say "we shouldn't have over saturated the market" or do you think they are going to say "holy cow, look at how many billions we made!"

 

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I prefer capitalism with a conscience but most board rooms, stock holders and starving artists don't so everyone involved is going to push to pump out as much work as possible.

 

Besides, comics are always retconning characters. Superman couldn't initially fly. Then he could. Do you think younger readers called the authors out for changing him into a flying man rather than a jumping man?

 

Then came kryptonite. The he died. Then he came back. People fought it tooth and nail every step of the way and here we are decades later and still reading Superman and watching Superman movies.

 

You're thinking like a fan. They're thinking like a business.

[Chip Cataldo]

Great post, Roy.

[VintageComics]

Great post, Roy.

 

Entertainment like comics can be conflicting because we get emotionally attached as readers but the CFO's, the boardroom and the stock market don't care. They just want a profitable business.

 

This is the new world we live in - make a profit or get cut. I don't like it but that's the reality.

[kav]

I disagree oversaturation is bad economics. McDonald's oversaturated the market with burgers very successfully.

[natevegas]

Over saturation of any medium is bad economics.

Besides, comics are always retconning characters. Superman couldn't initially fly. Then he could. Do you think younger readers called the authors out for changing him into a flying man rather than a jumping man?

 

Then came kryptonite. The he died. Then he came back. People fought it tooth and nail every step of the way and here we are decades later and still reading Superman and watching Superman movies.

 

You're thinking like a fan. They're thinking like a business.

Well in this case it isn't just as simple as saying new powers it would be like saying Superman didn't come from the doomed planet Krypton and the yellow sun on earth isn't involved in his abilities to run super fast / fly. In this case it would be like saying scratch that he's not an alien at all just a experiment of someone like Lex Luther or some such nonsense yet he still has basically the same powers. I think a whole lot of fans would flat our reject that IMO.

[kav]

Over saturation of any medium is bad economics.

Besides, comics are always retconning characters. Superman couldn't initially fly. Then he could. Do you think younger readers called the authors out for changing him into a flying man rather than a jumping man?

 

Then came kryptonite. The he died. Then he came back. People fought it tooth and nail every step of the way and here we are decades later and still reading Superman and watching Superman movies.

 

You're thinking like a fan. They're thinking like a business.

Well in this case it isn't just as simple as saying new powers it would be like saying Superman didn't come from the doomed planet Krypton and the yellow sun on earth isn't involved in his abilities to run super fast / fly. In this case it would be like saying scratch that he's not an alien at all just a experiment of someone like Lex Luther or some such nonsense yet he still has basically the same powers. I think a whole lot of fans would flat our reject that IMO.

Actually in the first story everyone on Krypton had super powers on Krypton because they were an 'advanced race'

Yellow sun had nothing to do with it

so.....

[asteroid-comix]

Over saturation of any medium is bad economics.

Besides, comics are always retconning characters. Superman couldn't initially fly. Then he could. Do you think younger readers called the authors out for changing him into a flying man rather than a jumping man?

 

Then came kryptonite. The he died. Then he came back. People fought it tooth and nail every step of the way and here we are decades later and still reading Superman and watching Superman movies.

 

You're thinking like a fan. They're thinking like a business.

Well in this case it isn't just as simple as saying new powers it would be like saying Superman didn't come from the doomed planet Krypton and the yellow sun on earth isn't involved in his abilities to run super fast / fly. In this case it would be like saying scratch that he's not an alien at all just a experiment of someone like Lex Luther or some such nonsense yet he still has basically the same powers. I think a whole lot of fans would flat our reject that IMO.

 

I think they should should redo the X-Men as a bunch of regular Joe's playing superheroes. Cyclops could be an out of work actor that drives a hybrid, Wolverine could be a shop teacher that has a really bad porn obsession, Rogue as a former escort with hep C that no one wants to touch and the professor is a reformed convict confined to a wheel chair because he got a shiv to the back. Together they prowl the allies, hoping to stop criminals, but really just getting their azz's kicked.

 

I would read a Superman comic if Lex had created Superman and had equal powers.

 

I'm glad you have a good handle for what fans would reject though.

 

 

[BizarroChuck]

Over saturation of any medium is bad economics.

 

Capitalism takes the money as soon as it can, as fast as it can and as long as it can.

 

Are you telling me if you were staring at a multibillion dollar investment that you'd just sit around and wait a bit or would you put pieces into action right away?

 

They've found a business model and they are pumping out what they can as soon as they can to cash in on it. We just happen to enjoy the product.

 

When and if over saturation happens do you think they are going to say "we shouldn't have over saturated the market" or do you think they are going to say "holy cow, look at how many billions we made!"

 

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you. I prefer capitalism with a conscience but most board rooms, stock holders and starving artists don't so everyone involved is going to push to pump out as much work as possible.

 

Besides, comics are always retconning characters. Superman couldn't initially fly. Then he could. Do you think younger readers called the authors out for changing him into a flying man rather than a jumping man?

 

Then came kryptonite. The he died. Then he came back. People fought it tooth and nail every step of the way and here we are decades later and still reading Superman and watching Superman movies.

 

You're thinking like a fan. They're thinking like a business.

 

Well written. Great post

[natevegas]

They still need fans in the end just watch. Everything comes full circle.

[vaillant]

They still need fans to make sense in the end just watch. Everything comes full circle.

I would fix it more in this way.

[vaillant]

P.S. It is clear, and expected, that Marvel is taking this as a business, it’s their job.

Problem is that it has always been a business, but if you look at how the Marvel Age unfolded you see a vision, likeliness, a sense of wholeness, and a source of inspiration. What Stan Lee delineated in his flamboyant language in "Origin of Marvel Comics", to state it in a lighthearted and genial way.

 

If you look at Marvel of the past twenty years… I am not sure what you see.

[kav]

No mutation would allow someone to pass through a wall or transmute their flesh into metal. Biology simply does not give people magic powers. Sorry. The whole idea of mutants with powers is stupid.

[NP_Gresham]

I disagree oversaturation is bad economics. McDonald's oversaturated the market with burgers very successfully.

Oh Really?

[natevegas]

P.S. It is clear, and expected, that Marvel is taking this as a business, it’s their job.

Problem is that it has always been a business, but if you look at how the Marvel Age unfolded you see a vision, likeliness, a sense of wholeness, and a source of inspiration. What Stan Lee delineated in his flamboyant language in "Origin of Marvel Comics", to state it in a lighthearted and genial way.

 

If you look at Marvel of the past twenty years… I am not sure what you see.

+1 Well said.

[steveinthecity]

No mutation would allow someone to pass through a wall or transmute their flesh into metal. Biology simply does not give people magic powers. Sorry. The whole idea of mutants with powers is stupid.

But somehow you're able to accept Woodgod being a genetically engineered life form (created from combining human and animal DNA) that in turn developed extraordinary strength, a resistance to chemical toxins, and is a goat or somesuch hoofed animal from the waist down?

[herc2000]

Couldn't Fox get a bit funny and say Inhumans are part of the Fantastic Four world, after all, that's where they first appeared and did so for many issues of the FF. Crystal even became a member of the FF for a short time and dated Johnny Storm?

[natevegas]

No solicits for any post SW X-titles or any news about creative teams, writers, or plans. Strange we know quite a bit about post SW Avenger teams, A- Force, Uncanny Inhumans, All-New, All-Different X opps I mean Avengers. The amount of vagueness regarding x characters post SW is deafening.

[kav]

No mutation would allow someone to pass through a wall or transmute their flesh into metal. Biology simply does not give people magic powers. Sorry. The whole idea of mutants with powers is stupid.

But somehow you're able to accept Woodgod being a genetically engineered life form (created from combining human and animal DNA) that in turn developed extraordinary strength, a resistance to chemical toxins, and is a goat or somesuch hoofed animal from the waist down?

Genetic recombination occurs. There are mice which glow in the dark having jellyfish genes. Hoofs and strength are no problemo. Passing thru walls-nope.

[davidpg]

I've been a huge X-Men fan since I was buying the books off the stand in 1982, and I don't care anymore what or who Marvel uses...I just want good stories. Period. Marvel hasn't done anything good with them since the proper demise of the book starting with issue 167 (most of us had agreed on this).

 

If you want the good old stories, go read the good old stories. I'll support whatever Marvel/Disney wants to do as long as they keep the quality up.

[Vikingreed]

No mutation would allow someone to pass through a wall or transmute their flesh into metal. Biology simply does not give people magic powers. Sorry. The whole idea of mutants with powers is stupid.

 

Gonna have to strongly disagree with this.

But I for one love cape books, so I'm pretty sure you can't have this attitude to enjoy them.