2015 Green Eggs Grading Contest- Round 3

[LordRahl]

I generally don't whine about what books are posted in these grading threads. I like the fact that not all of them are easy. I will go on record as saying this though... books with tanning/halos should not be part of this contest without a picture of the interior of the covers. It is not possible to tell how bad the tanning is from the outside and CGC will hammer tanning at a certain point. That point is indiscernible when you don't have THE key piece of info (which is an interior pic)

 

Well I guess I just whined about a book posted

 

Like I said

 

Books with tanning should have a pic of the interior otherwise it's a dart throw not an educated guess

[thirdgreenham]

I generally don't whine about what books are posted in these grading threads. I like the fact that not all of them are easy. I will go on record as saying this though... books with tanning/halos should not be part of this contest without a picture of the interior of the covers. It is not possible to tell how bad the tanning is from the outside and CGC will hammer tanning at a certain point. That point is indiscernible when you don't have THE key piece of info (which is an interior pic)

 

Well I guess I just whined about a book posted

 

Like I said

 

Books with tanning should have a pic of the interior otherwise it's a dart throw not an educated guess

 

whiner

[LordRahl]

I generally don't whine about what books are posted in these grading threads. I like the fact that not all of them are easy. I will go on record as saying this though... books with tanning/halos should not be part of this contest without a picture of the interior of the covers. It is not possible to tell how bad the tanning is from the outside and CGC will hammer tanning at a certain point. That point is indiscernible when you don't have THE key piece of info (which is an interior pic)

 

Well I guess I just whined about a book posted

 

Like I said

 

Books with tanning should have a pic of the interior otherwise it's a dart throw not an educated guess

 

whiner

 

I know I know

[kav]

you gotta figger in your calculations that much tanning might have int tanning

[NinjaSealed]

I graded every SA marvel in the contest so far 6.0. Cgc finally got one right

[Red84]

I had that FF pegged for an 8.5

Now that I look closer and see the tanning it reminds me of an ASM 17 I submitted that got hammered because of tanning. CGC sure hates tanning.

[kav]

love foxing hate tanning-got it

[Senormac]

CGC 6.0

 

 

CGC 6.5

 

 

 

 

[NinjaSealed]

One thing to remember comparing that WF and the FF is that the WF is a VERY tough book and often times a book like that will be graded closer to the GA scale.

[Senormac]

Bullsh*cough cough** !!

 

A grade is a grade. A condition is a condition. A defect is a defect.

[kav]

an 8.0 modern equals a 9.6 GA

[DavidTheDavid]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm learning as well, guys. This book may very well be a re-sub candidate, but it certainly tells me that tanning on the covers should not be taken lightly. Other than that, the book is really sharp and presents like a 7.5/8.0, IMHO. When I subbed it, I was hoping for an 8.0.

 

When was it submitted? Can you post the graders notes?

[thirdgreenham]

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm learning as well, guys. This book may very well be a re-sub candidate, but it certainly tells me that tanning on the covers should not be taken lightly. Other than that, the book is really sharp and presents like a 7.5/8.0, IMHO. When I subbed it, I was hoping for an 8.0.

 

When was it submitted? Can you post the graders notes?

 

I cannot post the graders notes, sorry.

[drewincanada]

And tanning is tanning. An 8.0 book with heavy tanning is not an 8.0 book. Clearly.

 

Get over it, folks.

 

[letsgrumble]

The tanning on the Fantastic Four #46 drops an otherwise 8.0 book to a 6.0. While the foxing/spotting on the Avengers #57 in Round One drops a 9.2/9.4 book to an 8.0.

 

With my guesses, I underestimated the tanning in the FF by grading it as 8.0 and overestimated the BC foxing on the Avengers by giving it a 7.0.

 

While I see the drop in grade on the FF due to tanning and paper quality (though 6.0 is more severe than I expected), I have a harder time accepting the VF grade on the Avengers book with visible foxing spots all over the BC. It was assigned a higher grade that I expected.

 

 

For reference:

 

Fantastic Four #46 back cover:

 

 

Avengers #57 back cover:

 

[joe_collector]

The thing that had me initially grading the FF a 6.5 was not just the tanning but the spine/edge wear that goes pretty deep in the cover.

 

There was also significant color loss on the bottom of the book (check out the black bar below "The Seeker") but I couldn't tell it it was production-related or reading wear.

[joe_collector]

One thing to remember comparing that WF and the FF is that the WF is a VERY tough book and often times a book like that will be graded closer to the GA scale.

 

And this bizarre inconsistency between books/eras/scarcity is what I hate about CGC.

[letsgrumble]

The thing that had me initially grading the FF a 6.5 was not just the tanning but the spine/edge wear that goes pretty deep in the cover.

 

There was also significant color loss on the bottom of the book (check out the black bar below "The Seeker") but I couldn't tell it it was production-related or reading wear.

 

You're right, and also the colour loss running down the the top of the spine, visible on the back cover.

 

I went higher on the FF after grading the Avengers two points lower: a little more lax after being too harsh. It got me all discombobulated!