Pre-Heat Speculation Thread - Get it before it gets HOT 9 9

[Aweandlorder]

OK totally not comic book related..

Funko Pop labyrinth figures on pre order...

At 10.99 a pop (pun intended) I dont think you can go wrong

 

http://www.entertainmentearth.com/hitlist.asp?searchfield=labyrinth%20pop&eeshop=

 

[darkstar]

The hot book is not 7. The book that closed 142.50 had three bidders, two bidders were shrills for the seller. I think the terms people use is pump and dump.

 

Between issues 7 and 9 one book is selling over cover. Do you know which it is?

[viperdays]

The hot book is not 7. The book that closed 142.50 had three bidders, two bidders were shrills for the seller. I think the terms people use is pump and dump.

 

Between issues 7 and 9 one book is selling over cover. Do you know which it is?

 

Look again times are a changing. With the CGC notes stated earlier the BIG shift is coming .

Edited June 30, 2016 by viperdays

[the authority]

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

I'm not sure the bolded is completely true, though some sports card mentality has begun to permeate the hobby. What I do agree with is the comment a couple of pages back, that stated that once the hype train has left the station for a certain book, it's pretty tough to go backwards.

 

Right now, that certain book is 7.

 

Then give a modern example of a non-first appearance that outsells the first appearance where the two books do not have a significant gap in print runs.

 

The Walking Dead 132 and 138. Alpha is seen inside the book on #132 and on the cover of #138. It has been an seesaw battle as to which book is "the" book depending on the day. BigClutch stated that #132 was the issue. There isn't someone who would be a bigger authority on the subject short of Kirkman. Still, the books bring about the same $, day in, day out.

[darkstar]

The hot book is not 7. The book that closed 142.50 had three bidders, two bidders were shrills for the seller. I think the terms people use is pump and dump.

 

Between issues 7 and 9 one book is selling over cover. Do you know which it is?

 

Look again times are a changing. With the CGC notes stated earlier the BIG shift is coming .

 

good luck with that

[500Club]

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

I'm not sure the bolded is completely true, though some sports card mentality has begun to permeate the hobby. What I do agree with is the comment a couple of pages back, that stated that once the hype train has left the station for a certain book, it's pretty tough to go backwards.

 

Right now, that certain book is 7.

 

Then give a modern example of a non-first appearance that outsells the first appearance where the two books do not have a significant gap in print runs.

 

The Walking Dead 132 and 138. Alpha is seen inside the book on #132 and on the cover of #138. It has been an seesaw battle as to which book is "the" book depending on the day. BigClutch stated that #132 was the issue. There isn't someone who would be a bigger authority on the subject short of Kirkman. Still, the books bring about the same $, day in, day out.

There's a few gray areas. Kamala Khan. Superboy will be a fun one. Godspeed may as well.

[viperdays]

The hot book is not 7. The book that closed 142.50 had three bidders, two bidders were shrills for the seller. I think the terms people use is pump and dump.

 

Between issues 7 and 9 one book is selling over cover. Do you know which it is?

 

Look again times are a changing. With the CGC notes stated earlier the BIG shift is coming .

 

good luck with that

 

At the current prices ,for either one , i won't need much luck to be right on BOTH IF Riri takes off :-)

Edited June 30, 2016 by viperdays

[darkstar]

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

I'm not sure the bolded is completely true, though some sports card mentality has begun to permeate the hobby. What I do agree with is the comment a couple of pages back, that stated that once the hype train has left the station for a certain book, it's pretty tough to go backwards.

 

Right now, that certain book is 7.

 

Then give a modern example of a non-first appearance that outsells the first appearance where the two books do not have a significant gap in print runs.

 

The Walking Dead 132 and 138. Alpha is seen inside the book on #132 and on the cover of #138. It has been an seesaw battle as to which book is "the" book depending on the day. BigClutch stated that #132 was the issue. There isn't someone who would be a bigger authority on the subject short of Kirkman. Still, the books bring about the same $, day in, day out.

There's a few gray areas. Kamala Khan. Superboy will be a fun one. Godspeed may as well.

 

You missed the "significant gap in print runs" qualifier.

 

Kamala Khan 17 2nd Print has a huge difference in print run with issue 14. Plus the Conner variant for 14 sells more than any of the issue 17 editions anyway. Earlier book with the lower print wins out.

 

Superboy. Lois and Clark 1 significantly lower print than the Convergence book plus it has the incentive variant, which again would have a huge gap with the Convergence book. Later book with the lower print wins out.

 

Gwenpool. The Lim variant for Howard the Duck 1 outsells the Bachalo variant to Deadpool' Secret Secret Wars 2 but again look at the difference in print runs. Something like 4x as many copies of DSSW 2 Bachalo slabbed compared to HTD 1 Lim. Later book with the lower print wins out.

 

Jessica Cruz. Garbage first appearance in Green Lantern 20. But people still buy it over JL 30 and 31 because it has an incentive cover. Earlier book with the lower print wins out.

 

Simon Baz. FCBD book goes unnoticed because Green Lantern 0 has a lower print incentive variant. Later book with the lower print wins out.

 

Cameo vs Full Appearance is dead. All that matters is print run.

 

Riri Williams. IIM 7 has around 2k more copies than IIM 9 showing on comichron. Pretty much a negligible difference. But the 2nd print for IIM 7, just like the 2nd print for IIM 5, doesn't have an entry on comichron for the month it released. So the print run is what? It has to be fewer than 5k copies, right? So 5k compared to 50k? Which do we think the market is going to gravitate towards more...

[500Club]

Not an argument I'm too invested in, so we'll leave it there.

 

My only key point is that once the hype machine rolls for a given book, usually that's the book.

 

Maybe cameo/full IS a dead issue.

[viperdays]

You lost me at the IIM #7 2nd printing. Isn't it the same cover just a different color for the banner , logo etc. ? A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ? Buying the 2nd printing of #7 with the same cover because it is more rare? We will see. I have a LOT of both (more #9's) so whateves :-)

[catch21]

You lost me at the IIM #7 2nd printing. Isn't it the same cover just a different color for the banner , logo etc. ? A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ? Buying the 2nd printing of #7 with the same cover because it is more rare? We will see. I have a LOT of both (more #9's) so whateves :-)

 

 

Exactly

[LarrysComics]

Anyone here interested in Riri?

 

Marvel just released a new picture for their upcoming "reboot" and has Riri front and center.

 

People have been buying Invincible iron man 7, a small cameo at best. Not bad if you are into cameos, BUT if you want a real full app maybe look into invincible iron man 9, also check out that age of apocalypse variant for IM9....gold?

 

 

Seems like this variant has all the ingredients to be a success.

 

 

Still can be found at your a LCS. Small risk with big potential for the long term.

 

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

 

Thats because the modern flipper doesnt read comic books today. I agree with the IM7/IM9. To me issue 9 AoA variant has the biggest potential, the AoA was a 1:1 variant not a 1 :10, 1:25 etc...

 

 

It dont hurt to get issues 7 to 10 for Riri fans. Issue 9 will organically grow where as issue 7 only is in demand because is a pump and dump book.

 

Way too many new people learning the ropes in this hobby trying to find that next kamala/x23 book, that new hot #1 series. We got people buying and praising Lois N Clark 1 as being new superboys 1st app, then turn around the next week and say superboy 19 is the "real" 1st app, when this are clearly 2 diff people like someone once said "that speaks volumes" as to where people are today when it comes to comics.

At the end of the day people can spend their cash however they please, and the new boys in the hobby should do some research and learn it that way, but is good for them to get a few dents along the way and follow that weekly flavor of the week, just dont fall asleep with those books on your hands.

 

Anyways, enough of that.

 

Pre heat pis for

 

IIM 7/9 AoA

 

 

 

I disgree since it is a 1:1 ratio. The regular issue has her on the cover drawn by the creator. The issue to have is the regular. Plus, if you look at ebay sales Before the last two days, people were buying the regular issue not the variant.

 

 

Midtown sold out of those this morning as well. (The #9 regular cover.) There's still a couple of other books around, mostly on eBay. I gotta agree with Catch21, though. The regular issue is a Riri fan's jackpot: full body Riri in new armor, with "INTRODUCING..." caption, AND if you read comics (as any real speccer should), Riri's in the book in armor as well.

 

Meanwhile, the AoA variant doesn't even have her on it. Isn't that Rhodey? (Riri has an Optimus Prime-style "antenna".)

 

I emailed CGC this morning and I got this reply:

 

"After reviewing the issues in question, Invincible Iron Man #7 will be labeled as Riri's first appearance in cameo on last page, and #9 will be labeled as her first full appearance."

 

So it looks like both books will have a bit of value, though obviously #7 is the current hotness right now.

 

"After reviewing the issues in question, Invincible Iron Man #7 will be labeled as Riri's first appearance in cameo on last page, and #9 will be labeled as her first full appearance."

 

Can anyone confirm this?

 

If it's true...

#7 = Hulk 180

#9 = hulk 181

 

Not even a contest here...

trade your 7's for 9's

 

now...

 

 

[darkstar]

A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ?

 

Right. But the market largely doesn't care about any of that. People always want to argue about cameos vs full appearances on here, but in terms of books produced within the past twenty years, the market doesn't particularly care about the difference. First appearances, even cameos, trump later issues unless a later issue is significantly harder to obtain due to the print run AND the first appearance issue is questionable - a brief appearance, or the character is in shadows or otherwise obscured, or heaven help us, an infant

 

Look at Jessica Cruz. Green Lantern 20. Her entire appearance amounts of a single panel of her hand. But its a first appearance. And it has a low print variant. So that is what the market cares about. Her first full appearance is in Justice League 31. Its also her first cover, is a partial origin issue, and has her transformation into her superhero state. The book even has a "low print" incentive variant and combo pack. Market doesn't care though, because the content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Black Flash. Presumably people bought Flash 138 at marked up prices because they were intrigued by the character's appearance on the Flash tv show. They bought it because of it promising to be the first appearance of the character. And technically it is. But if you actually care about the character and the content on the interior pages, you would probably be a bit disappointed to find out that the appearance of Black Flash in that book amounts to nothing more than a last page panel where you see a partial depiction of the character in a photograph. The character's arc doesn't even really start until 139. And even then the character is only shown in "cameo" in 139 and 140. Issue 141, meanwhile is the first cover and first full appearance, plus it features the race between Flash and Black Flash and the death of the Black Flash. That book has everything going for it in terms of content and being the first meaningful appearance of the Black Flash character. But while it saw an uptick in prices recently it didn't approach the prices of 138, because content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Ajax. First appearance in Deadpool 14. Market didn't care that it was a super brief appearance. It didn't matter that issue 17 or the 98 annual had much more going for them in terms of content and relevance in regards to Ajax. It didn't even matter that the annual was by far the most expensive book of the three before Ajax became "desirable". But when the market deemed Ajax relevant issue 14 started selling for more than the annual, because content doesn't matter.

 

Who cares if Riri appears on the cover of 9? Or if she appears in costume in 9. Or has a full appearance in 9. Or gets named in issue 10. Because neither of those books are considerably harder to obtain than the actual first appearance. The market will default to the first appearance in issue 7 as being the book to have. See Jessica Cruz. See Black Flash. See Damian Wayne. See Silk. See just about any other first appearance of a character that has debuted between the late 90s and now. The low print book matters, the content does not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LarrysComics]

A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ?

 

Right. But the market largely doesn't care about any of that. People always want to argue about cameos vs full appearances on here, but in terms of books produced within the past twenty years, the market doesn't particularly care about the difference. First appearances, even cameos, trump later issues unless a later issue is significantly harder to obtain due to the print run AND the first appearance issue is questionable - a brief appearance, or the character is in shadows or otherwise obscured, or heaven help us, an infant

 

Look at Jessica Cruz. Green Lantern 20. Her entire appearance amounts of a single panel of her hand. But its a first appearance. And it has a low print variant. So that is what the market cares about. Her first full appearance is in Justice League 31. Its also her first cover, is a partial origin issue, and has her transformation into her superhero state. The book even has a "low print" incentive variant and combo pack. Market doesn't care though, because the content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Black Flash. Presumably people bought Flash 138 at marked up prices because they were intrigued by the character's appearance on the Flash tv show. They bought it because of it promising to be the first appearance of the character. And technically it is. But if you actually care about the character and the content on the interior pages, you would probably be a bit disappointed to find out that the appearance of Black Flash in that book amounts to nothing more than a last page panel where you see a partial depiction of the character in a photograph. The character's arc doesn't even really start until 139. And even then the character is only shown in "cameo" in 139 and 140. Issue 141, meanwhile is the first cover and first full appearance, plus it features the race between Flash and Black Flash and the death of the Black Flash. That book has everything going for it in terms of content and being the first meaningful appearance of the Black Flash character. But while it saw an uptick in prices recently it didn't approach the prices of 138, because content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Ajax. First appearance in Deadpool 14. Market didn't care that it was a super brief appearance. It didn't matter that issue 17 or the 98 annual had much more going for them in terms of content and relevance in regards to Ajax. It didn't even matter that the annual was by far the most expensive book of the three before Ajax became "desirable". But when the market deemed Ajax relevant issue 14 started selling for more than the annual, because content doesn't matter.

 

Who cares if Riri appears on the cover of 9? Or if she appears in costume in 9. Or has a full appearance in 9. Or gets named in issue 10. Because neither of those books are considerably harder to obtain than the actual first appearance. The market will default to the first appearance in issue 7 as being the book to have. See Jessica Cruz. See Black Flash. See Damian Wayne. See Silk. See just about any other first appearance of a character that has debuted between the late 90s and now. The low print book matters, the content does not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I "only" care what the CGC label says....

THAT'S endgame.

 

Argue all you want.

 

Not saying it's true...

IF it is...

 

#9 wins.

 

Bet me.

Anything.....

Put your $ where your anonymous internet moniker mouf is....

[the authority]

A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ?

 

Right. But the market largely doesn't care about any of that. People always want to argue about cameos vs full appearances on here, but in terms of books produced within the past twenty years, the market doesn't particularly care about the difference. First appearances, even cameos, trump later issues unless a later issue is significantly harder to obtain due to the print run AND the first appearance issue is questionable - a brief appearance, or the character is in shadows or otherwise obscured, or heaven help us, an infant

 

Look at Jessica Cruz. Green Lantern 20. Her entire appearance amounts of a single panel of her hand. But its a first appearance. And it has a low print variant. So that is what the market cares about. Her first full appearance is in Justice League 31. Its also her first cover, is a partial origin issue, and has her transformation into her superhero state. The book even has a "low print" incentive variant and combo pack. Market doesn't care though, because the content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Black Flash. Presumably people bought Flash 138 at marked up prices because they were intrigued by the character's appearance on the Flash tv show. They bought it because of it promising to be the first appearance of the character. And technically it is. But if you actually care about the character and the content on the interior pages, you would probably be a bit disappointed to find out that the appearance of Black Flash in that book amounts to nothing more than a last page panel where you see a partial depiction of the character in a photograph. The character's arc doesn't even really start until 139. And even then the character is only shown in "cameo" in 139 and 140. Issue 141, meanwhile is the first cover and first full appearance, plus it features the race between Flash and Black Flash and the death of the Black Flash. That book has everything going for it in terms of content and being the first meaningful appearance of the Black Flash character. But while it saw an uptick in prices recently it didn't approach the prices of 138, because content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Ajax. First appearance in Deadpool 14. Market didn't care that it was a super brief appearance. It didn't matter that issue 17 or the 98 annual had much more going for them in terms of content and relevance in regards to Ajax. It didn't even matter that the annual was by far the most expensive book of the three before Ajax became "desirable". But when the market deemed Ajax relevant issue 14 started selling for more than the annual, because content doesn't matter.

 

Who cares if Riri appears on the cover of 9? Or if she appears in costume in 9. Or has a full appearance in 9. Or gets named in issue 10. Because neither of those books are considerably harder to obtain than the actual first appearance. The market will default to the first appearance in issue 7 as being the book to have. See Jessica Cruz. See Black Flash. See Damian Wayne. See Silk. See just about any other first appearance of a character that has debuted between the late 90s and now. The low print book matters, the content does not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Issue #9 had a A and B cover. If they were a 50/50 split, that would make 9A a first print under 25,000 copies. Not exactly huge numbers if she hits the lottery and becomes a major player in the Marvel U. I'd bet on Miss America before this character but if I'm betting this character, I'm still buying #9A...and I did

[fastballspecial]

A last page cameo vs the characters Armor being front and center on the cover of IIM #9 ( even heralds the new hero without a cool name found inside on the cover). First FULL Appearance AND the first time she dons her Armor is all inside IIM #9 . Like you stated the print runs are virtually the same so all of that really cool stuff going outside and inside of IIM#9 vs a one panel hello (actually a door slam ) in IIM #7 ?

 

Right. But the market largely doesn't care about any of that. People always want to argue about cameos vs full appearances on here, but in terms of books produced within the past twenty years, the market doesn't particularly care about the difference. First appearances, even cameos, trump later issues unless a later issue is significantly harder to obtain due to the print run AND the first appearance issue is questionable - a brief appearance, or the character is in shadows or otherwise obscured, or heaven help us, an infant

 

Look at Jessica Cruz. Green Lantern 20. Her entire appearance amounts of a single panel of her hand. But its a first appearance. And it has a low print variant. So that is what the market cares about. Her first full appearance is in Justice League 31. Its also her first cover, is a partial origin issue, and has her transformation into her superhero state. The book even has a "low print" incentive variant and combo pack. Market doesn't care though, because the content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Black Flash. Presumably people bought Flash 138 at marked up prices because they were intrigued by the character's appearance on the Flash tv show. They bought it because of it promising to be the first appearance of the character. And technically it is. But if you actually care about the character and the content on the interior pages, you would probably be a bit disappointed to find out that the appearance of Black Flash in that book amounts to nothing more than a last page panel where you see a partial depiction of the character in a photograph. The character's arc doesn't even really start until 139. And even then the character is only shown in "cameo" in 139 and 140. Issue 141, meanwhile is the first cover and first full appearance, plus it features the race between Flash and Black Flash and the death of the Black Flash. That book has everything going for it in terms of content and being the first meaningful appearance of the Black Flash character. But while it saw an uptick in prices recently it didn't approach the prices of 138, because content doesn't matter.

 

Look at Ajax. First appearance in Deadpool 14. Market didn't care that it was a super brief appearance. It didn't matter that issue 17 or the 98 annual had much more going for them in terms of content and relevance in regards to Ajax. It didn't even matter that the annual was by far the most expensive book of the three before Ajax became "desirable". But when the market deemed Ajax relevant issue 14 started selling for more than the annual, because content doesn't matter.

 

Who cares if Riri appears on the cover of 9? Or if she appears in costume in 9. Or has a full appearance in 9. Or gets named in issue 10. Because neither of those books are considerably harder to obtain than the actual first appearance. The market will default to the first appearance in issue 7 as being the book to have. See Jessica Cruz. See Black Flash. See Damian Wayne. See Silk. See just about any other first appearance of a character that has debuted between the late 90s and now. The low print book matters, the content does not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

I "only" care what the CGC label says....

THAT'S endgame.

 

Argue all you want.

 

Not saying it's true...

IF it is...

 

#9 wins.

 

Bet me.

Anything.....

Put your $ where your anonymous internet moniker mouf is....

 

Actually Darkstar made a valid argument with supportive facts and no

sarcasm either.

 

And your response is to insult him.

 

[Broke as a Joke]

RiRi? Jessica Cruz? Ajax?

 

The "market" may very well be off on first appearance books of characters like that because they are not even the slightest bit important. When a character becomes important enough the public will sift through the hype and single out a true first appearance. Happens all the time, it's just usually years after that character can be called successful.

[darkstar]

Anyone here interested in Riri?

 

Marvel just released a new picture for their upcoming "reboot" and has Riri front and center.

 

People have been buying Invincible iron man 7, a small cameo at best. Not bad if you are into cameos, BUT if you want a real full app maybe look into invincible iron man 9, also check out that age of apocalypse variant for IM9....gold?

 

 

Seems like this variant has all the ingredients to be a success.

 

 

Still can be found at your a LCS. Small risk with big potential for the long term.

 

IIM 7 is a first appearance. The market doesn't care about the extent of the appearance with modern books. Content doesn't matter anymore. In the past a reader might value a later appearance of a character over a one panel teaser in a previous issue but that doesn't apply these days. A person with a genuine interest in the Riri Williams character might personally value issue 9 or 10 more than issue 7 because those issues flesh out the character a bit, but that person is in the buying minority. Those issues have no incentive variants. They have no reprints with lower print numbers.

 

Thats because the modern flipper doesnt read comic books today. I agree with the IM7/IM9. To me issue 9 AoA variant has the biggest potential, the AoA was a 1:1 variant not a 1 :10, 1:25 etc...

 

 

It dont hurt to get issues 7 to 10 for Riri fans. Issue 9 will organically grow where as issue 7 only is in demand because is a pump and dump book.

 

Way too many new people learning the ropes in this hobby trying to find that next kamala/x23 book, that new hot #1 series. We got people buying and praising Lois N Clark 1 as being new superboys 1st app, then turn around the next week and say superboy 19 is the "real" 1st app, when this are clearly 2 diff people like someone once said "that speaks volumes" as to where people are today when it comes to comics.

At the end of the day people can spend their cash however they please, and the new boys in the hobby should do some research and learn it that way, but is good for them to get a few dents along the way and follow that weekly flavor of the week, just dont fall asleep with those books on your hands.

 

Anyways, enough of that.

 

Pre heat pis for

 

IIM 7/9 AoA

 

 

 

I disgree since it is a 1:1 ratio. The regular issue has her on the cover drawn by the creator. The issue to have is the regular. Plus, if you look at ebay sales Before the last two days, people were buying the regular issue not the variant.

 

 

Midtown sold out of those this morning as well. (The #9 regular cover.) There's still a couple of other books around, mostly on eBay. I gotta agree with Catch21, though. The regular issue is a Riri fan's jackpot: full body Riri in new armor, with "INTRODUCING..." caption, AND if you read comics (as any real speccer should), Riri's in the book in armor as well.

 

Meanwhile, the AoA variant doesn't even have her on it. Isn't that Rhodey? (Riri has an Optimus Prime-style "antenna".)

 

I emailed CGC this morning and I got this reply:

 

"After reviewing the issues in question, Invincible Iron Man #7 will be labeled as Riri's first appearance in cameo on last page, and #9 will be labeled as her first full appearance."

 

So it looks like both books will have a bit of value, though obviously #7 is the current hotness right now.

 

"After reviewing the issues in question, Invincible Iron Man #7 will be labeled as Riri's first appearance in cameo on last page, and #9 will be labeled as her first full appearance."

 

Can anyone confirm this?

 

If it's true...

#7 = Hulk 180

#9 = hulk 181

 

Not even a contest here...

trade your 7's for 9's

 

now...

 

 

Not even a contest, right.

 

Comparing a book released this year to Hulk 180/181. Really?

 

CGC states All New Marvel Point One is the first full appearance of Kamala as Ms Marvel. Does that book sell for more than CM 14 or CM 17 2nd print? Nope.

 

CGC states Batman 656 is the first full appearance of Damian Wayne. Does that book sell for more than Batman 655? Nope.

 

Would you like me to continue?

[viperdays]

Well, NOTHING lasts forever ! Million plus print runs and holographic covers carried the market for several years in the 90's. It was the norm, it was the expectation... it killed that market. So, while you can give examples of what HAS been the norm, it doesn't mean it will hold true forever. CGC has played a huge role in the secondary market chase and as such it appears the mentioned label in a previous post will drive people away from #7 to #9. Let's be honest here, ignoring investment potential, people SHOULD be picking up #9 if they care about the character.

[viperdays]

I would agree that Miss America Chavez has more potential "currently' than RiRi.