May Heritage Auction

[GreatEscape]

Yeah, that ASM #151 cover is awesome.

[romitaman]

65K?

 

the asm 151 cover will get close to...or go over 100k i feel.

 

Best spidey cover image in quite a while....... plus this was buried until Heritage got a hold of it..so its quite fresh to the market.

 

I do however think this cover was cleaned (because its SO WHITE) and normally..all of those classic Romita razor cut action lines on a cover would have some soiling in them........ but i'm not sure a cleaning should affect the value.

 

[thethedew]

65K?

 

 

I'll see your 65k and raise you TWO Micronauts covers.

 

>perks up<

 

Huh?

 

 

 

[dem1138]

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jack-kirby-and-joe-sinnott-fantastic-four-52-unused-first-black-panther-cover-original-art/p/7137-76001.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

[cheekyj2112]

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jack-kirby-and-joe-sinnott-fantastic-four-52-unused-first-black-panther-cover-original-art/p/7137-76001.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

 

".....the Black Panther. Many have declared him one of the medium's greatest characters of all time..."

Really? This is news to me.

[dem1138]

Regardless what's most interesting is that it appears that the Black Panther image on this cover is the mirror image of the Black Panther on the published cover. Therefore its very likely that the Black Panther on the published cover is a stat. If that's the case, I think it makes the unpublished cover even more significant.

[comix4fun]

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/original-comic-art/jack-kirby-and-joe-sinnott-fantastic-four-52-unused-first-black-panther-cover-original-art/p/7137-76001.s?ic4=GalleryView-ShortDescription-071515

 

".....the Black Panther. Many (people who have a stake in how much this cover sells for) have declared him one of the medium's greatest characters of all time..."

Really? This is news to me.

 

 

Fixed!!

[ThothAmon]

Oh, and look: A Romita (or Kane/Romita) ASM cover just popped up:

 

http://comics.ha.com/itm/gil-kane-and-john-romita-sr-amazing-spider-man-151-cover-original-art-marvel-1975-/p/7137-16002.s?ic3=ViewItem-Auction-Preview-BrowseSearchResults-120115&lotPosition=0

 

I'm a nitwit for not thinking of the Ditko ASM 33 homage before.

Don't be so hard on yourself, your a tremendous slouch!

[Bronty]

while we wait for a pic, here's what I dug up on google

 

[Silver Surfer]

That would be pretty neat to own.

[Bronty]

Regardless what's most interesting is that it appears that the Black Panther image on this cover is the mirror image of the Black Panther on the published cover. Therefore its very likely that the Black Panther on the published cover is a stat. If that's the case, I think it makes the unpublished cover even more significant.

 

Seems to me like its the same pose but not the same drawing. On the published there is a mask, the cape is different, etc. Unless he whited out part of the stat and drew over that, I guess.

 

Either way its not a direct enough reuse for it to matter so much IMO

[Bill C]

That is one fun cover

[dem1138]

Regardless what's most interesting is that it appears that the Black Panther image on this cover is the mirror image of the Black Panther on the published cover. Therefore its very likely that the Black Panther on the published cover is a stat. If that's the case, I think it makes the unpublished cover even more significant.

 

Seems to me like its the same pose but not the same drawing. On the published there is a mask, the cape is different, etc. Unless he whited out part of the stat and drew over that, I guess.

 

Either way its not a direct enough reuse for it to matter so much IMO

 

If you compare the two, it appears fairly clear that it is the same drawing, they just filled in the rest of his mask. Production made a mirror stat and reduced the size and filled in his mask. I highly doubt Kirby redrew the exact same figure only to redo the cape. If you've seen a lot of original Marvel covers and splashes, especially from that era, this practice of using stats from prior drawings and altering minor aspects (like a cape) was fairly common.

Also it makes sense logistically from the prospective of a production schedule. Kirby was working on numerous books and he already drew the cover to #52 and now he had to do it again, so practically it would make sense that he would have only drawn what was necessary. Also, I understand at the time that Kirby never drew the same drawing twice.

[drdroom]

while we wait for a pic, here's what I dug up on google

 

 

Based on this colored-in pic, I'm going to suggest Colletta, not Sinnott for the inks.

[Bronty]

Regardless what's most interesting is that it appears that the Black Panther image on this cover is the mirror image of the Black Panther on the published cover. Therefore its very likely that the Black Panther on the published cover is a stat. If that's the case, I think it makes the unpublished cover even more significant.

 

Seems to me like its the same pose but not the same drawing. On the published there is a mask, the cape is different, etc. Unless he whited out part of the stat and drew over that, I guess.

 

Either way its not a direct enough reuse for it to matter so much IMO

 

If you compare the two, it appears fairly clear that it is the same drawing, they just filled in the rest of his mask. Production made a mirror stat and reduced the size and filled in his mask. I highly doubt Kirby redrew the exact same figure only to redo the cape. If you've seen a lot of original Marvel covers and splashes, especially from that era, this practice of using stats from prior drawings and altering minor aspects (like a cape) was fairly common.

Also it makes sense logistically from the prospective of a production schedule. Kirby was working on numerous books and he already drew the cover to #52 and now he had to do it again, so practically it would make sense that he would have only drawn what was necessary. Also, I understand at the time that Kirby never drew the same drawing twice.

 

Yeah fair points.

 

Still, it goes from

original drawing used for part of cover of ff52, to

original drawing used for part of cover but reversed (flipped), to

original drawing used for part of cover but reversed (flipped) and then most of the head and torso altered

 

 

We're getting further and further away no?

 

An incredible piece regardless, but the part-published aspect more of a bonus than anything, IMO.

[batman_fan]

That would be pretty neat expensive to own.

 

Fixed that for you Peter, no thanks necessary

[Bronty]

It will be a very interesting auction result. Lee/Kirby Prime FF, 1st appearance of significant character................... but....... unpublished.

 

that's one big butt.

[glendgold]

This was printed in the Taschen MARVEL book, and it was shot from the OA. It's a pretty significant cover. It's also in stat form in the 50 Years of Marvel book.

[Terry Doyle]

Apologies for crappy scan . . .

 

[Terry Doyle]

Additionally unpublished . . .