bb8 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Bosco685 said: I very much want to see Batman in this horror story. It looks intense! The Riddler motif does lend itself well to a serial killer - leaving clues as to what he's going to do next and matching wits with law enforcement / vigilante trying to keep one step ahead a la many, many serial killers we've seen. It just seems kind of...commonplace for a Batman movie. The '90s gave us movie after movie of that sub-genre. It became tiresome even though some of the movies were quite well-done. I'll watch regardless (especially if I can get into a theater to see it), but it doesn't really wow me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 15 hours ago, @therealsilvermane said: What's wrong with that? Gorshin's Riddler is insane and ruthless. He's the one villain from the TV show that could fit into a modern film astrometric 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 "the general public have kinda moved on from looking forward to DC at the movies" okay Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I'm personally not looking forward to any comic book movies, not nearly as much as I used to at least, but I recognize that people still want DC as much as people still want Marvel. I won't say I'm "burned out"; I always thought Endgame would be my jumping off point, and Snyder's story was the only interesting one in their universe. D84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 Jeremy 'MCU Cosmic' excited for the Batman movie??!! Say it ain't so, Joe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, theCapraAegagrus said: people still want DC as much as people still want Marvel Not true really. Toddlers, TODDLERS, are looking forward to upcoming Marvel Studios movies. DC isn't on the radar. A friend of mine, who isn't a fan of comics and avoids comic book movies(Star Wars only), brought his 9 year old around. The kid immediately noticed my small collection of Marvel Studios Legends figures and asked to play with them. I asked who his favorite character was, and he said Dr. Strange. DR freakin STRANGE. I asked if he had another favorite while waving Captain Marvel in his face. He said Ant-Man is pretty cool. ANT-MAN. And neither of those characters were in my small collection. Sorry, but Christopher Nolan is now a long time ago. DCEU kind of blew it by not capturing the public's imagination out the gate with Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad. Wonder Woman was fine by herself, but it didn't do anything for the DC movie universe at large. It's the MCU that has captured the public's imagination. It's figuratively the new Star Wars and right now there's no comparison. I'm not saying DC can't play catch up and they have a small chance here in the next couple years. IMO, consistent story continuity isn't in DC's DNA. Marvel, on the other hand, has been crushing consistent expanded story continuity amongst all their titles for 60 years going strong. DC is better off making strong quality movies that exist only for themselves and leave expanded continuity to the pros aka Marvel. Beige 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said: I asked if he had another favorite while waving Captain Marvel in his face. "You want Captain Marvel!" "No!" "Yes you do. She is going to be THE lead character of the entire MCU and you will see every kid in the world will proclaim her amazingness and power and there will be billboards throughout the globe with this message and..." "NO!" Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, @therealsilvermane said: Not true really. Toddlers, TODDLERS, are looking forward to upcoming Marvel Studios movies. DC isn't on the radar. A friend of mine, who isn't a fan of comics and avoids comic book movies(Star Wars only), brought his 9 year old around. The kid immediately noticed my small collection of Marvel Studios Legends figures and asked to play with them. I asked who his favorite character was, and he said Dr. Strange. DR freakin STRANGE. I asked if he had another favorite while waving Captain Marvel in his face. He said Ant-Man is pretty cool. ANT-MAN. And neither of those characters were in my small collection. Sorry, but Christopher Nolan is now a long time ago. DCEU kind of blew it by not capturing the public's imagination out the gate with Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and Suicide Squad. Wonder Woman was fine by herself, but it didn't do anything for the DC movie universe at large. It's the MCU that has captured the public's imagination. It's figuratively the new Star Wars and right now there's no comparison. I'm not saying DC can't play catch up and they have a small chance here in the next couple years. IMO, consistent story continuity isn't in DC's DNA. Marvel, on the other hand, has been crushing consistent expanded story continuity amongst all their titles for 60 years going strong. DC is better off making strong quality movies that exist only for themselves and leave expanded continuity to the pros aka Marvel. It is true, though. Have you heard of DC Fandome...? Nice anecdote. That's not empirical evidence. Every time I think you couldn't be any more wrong, you really surprise me. Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 "Oh man, DOCTOR STRANGE is someone's favorite character! It's not like people whose favorite is CYBORG, FREAKING CYBORG, were unsatisfied with MCU Legend Joss Whedon's treatment of the character!" Confirmation bias is not your friend. Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 It's not like DC basically created the "event" concept in comics or anything. I mean, that would require continuity that just doesn't exist in their comics over the past 60 years. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsilverjanet Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 no one has said this but this world (the style/look) seems one to perfectly allow the Phoenix version of the joker to exist Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bosco685 Posted August 25, 2020 Author Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: "Oh man, DOCTOR STRANGE is someone's favorite character! It's not like people whose favorite is CYBORG, FREAKING CYBORG, were unsatisfied with MCU Legend Joss Whedon's treatment of the character!" Confirmation bias is not your friend. "And the man kept sticking an action figure in my face..." Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, jsilverjanet said: no one has said this but this world (the style/look) seems one to perfectly allow the Phoenix version of the joker to exist I think The Batman is set in 2021, though, whereas Joker was set in the 1980's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, Bosco685 said: "And the man kept sticking an action figure in my face..." Can you believe that my favorite X-Men hero, when I was a kid, was Cyclops!? Freaking Cyclops! A C-list superhero if there ever was one! Bosco685 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 If "toddlers" (LOL) wanna watch the MCU, I think that's all you need to know about how 'deep' [shallow] those movies typically are. I'm fine with Worlds of DC being catered to adults with ideals that make you think. I like both cinematic universes, though, because I'm not a puppet. They both offer different avenues of entertainment. I don't understand why some people have to make things so polarizing. There is a middle ground. A moderate method of analyzing these things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
media_junkie Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 25 minutes ago, theCapraAegagrus said: Can you believe that my favorite X-Men hero, when I was a kid, was Cyclops!? Freaking Cyclops! A C-list superhero if there ever was one! Eh, Cyclops isn't that bad. I mean his power is pretty cool (Laser blast eyes!). I just think the writers going back at least as far as Clairmont made him a "whipping boy" for pretty much every one else and it stuck. Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 minutes ago, media_junkie said: Eh, Cyclops isn't that bad. I mean his power is pretty cool (Laser blast eyes!). I just think the writers going back at least as far as Clairmont made him a "whipping boy" for pretty much every one else and it stuck. I'm just mocking the idea that Doctor Strange (or Ant-Man - an OG Avenger) is some sort of "nobody". He's a major character in Marvel Comics. His movie is great. Being a kid's favorite character is completely unsurprising to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Where would the MCU be if either of these two had failed? I need to find the article breaking down the ripple effect. The ball started rolling in 1978 while the first successful film based on a Marvel character wouldn’t emerge until 1998 with Blade. They better knock it out of the park with Blades return. Edited August 25, 2020 by Grails Larryw7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
▫️ Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 One thing I forgot to mention about the trailer is that I’m actually excited for the first time about... Commissioner Gordon? Wright is really channeling the character for me. I hope a great role is written for him. I used to be turned off at changing the race of established characters but clearly if an actor can own it then so be it. My former attitude stemmed from the Wild Wild West remake with Will Smith based on a show I grew up with. It was just simply a bad movie and no actor was going to save it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@therealsilvermane Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, theCapraAegagrus said: If "toddlers" (LOL) wanna watch the MCU, I think that's all you need to know about how 'deep' [shallow] those movies typically are. I'm fine with Worlds of DC being catered to adults with ideals that make you think. I like both cinematic universes, though, because I'm not a puppet. They both offer different avenues of entertainment. I don't understand why some people have to make things so polarizing. There is a middle ground. A moderate method of analyzing these things. When I said "toddler", I actually meant kids like my friends's 9 year old. Obviously, responsible parents aren't taking their 4 year olds to PG-13 MCU films en droves. On the other hand, I sometimes have MCU conversations with my partner's 63 year old boss (a lady) who is a hardcore MCU fan and whose favorite movie is Guardians of the Galaxy. She knows zilch about the comics but she and her husband are hardcore MCU. She does hate Tony Stark because she thinks he's a d---bag. Anyway, that's kind of the magic of the MCU. Like Star Wars, they've figured out how to appeal to kids, teens, adults, older adults, and comics fans. And when I compared MCU to DC's current movie status, I'm simply making an observation from the point of view of the general public, not hardcore Snyder-cut fans or lifelong Marvel/DC comics collectors. If I asked the 9 year old or our 63 year old friend what they thought about the upcoming Snyder cut or DC Fandome, they'd look at me funny. Edited August 25, 2020 by @therealsilvermane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
