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The SKY is FALLING!!!

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Mayor Mccheese

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Oh my goodness...I'm so late to the party but I just found out about the new cases and the waves.

 

I have my ST110, FF5 and ASM14 with CGC...I wish I could pull them back... I also need to go back and look at my other new slabs. I have a sickening feeling. I don't know how they can say a book hasn't been damaged by the wave. If it gets broken out and it still has the waves I consider it damaged. Then the threads getting deleted...oh boy.

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divad

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Hey David...long time! Hope all is well... (thumbs u

 

Hey Tom, Que paso my friend! Not a day goes by when I don't think of that "ATM machine" analogy you made (particularly on father's day. lol

 

Although ATM machine is kinda like "tuna fish" (just a tad redundant, but widely used.)

 

What do you think of this s*** storm? ;)

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Dormian

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Oh my goodness...I'm so late to the party but I just found out about the new cases and the waves.

 

I have my ST110, FF5 and ASM14 with CGC...I wish I could pull them back... I also need to go back and look at my other new slabs. I have a sickening feeling. I don't know how they can say a book hasn't been damaged by the wave. If it gets broken out and it still has the waves I consider it damaged. Then the threads getting deleted...oh boy.

 

Why can't you pull them back?

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AnkurJ

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In a perfect world what do you think CGC SHOULD do?

 

In a perfect world, the new cases would have been...well...perfect.

 

And until things are perfected, grading should be halted. Another company did that when they found an issue with their holders.

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In a perfect world what do you think CGC SHOULD do?

In my own perfect world, they'd go back to the old case until all issues are worked out. That includes reducing the Newton rings, eliminating the waviness, and making sure the book is SAFELY and securely held in place rather than being pinned down.

 

While figuring all that out, I'd love to see them tweak the label so it's a hybrid of the old and new label. My biggest beef is the grade box overlapping the header.

 

What I do like is that the case feels sturdier than the old, I like the top header being inside the case, I like the idea of not having the oversized cases for Giant Size. I like that they stack well. None of these things make up for the feeling that thousands of dollars of comics could be encapsulated in something that could do them harm, especially concerned for my signature series books.

 

That's not an option. The material they used to make the case is no longer available. This has been discussed ad nauseum, but I can understand how you would have missed it, since every meaningful post gets clipped.

Not exactly the situation. The material for the inner holder - Barex - has dwindling supplies. There is no material problem for the outer holder

 

CGC obviously still has some Barex supplies, as magazines continue to be slabbed in the old holders.

 

CGC could attempt to source more Barex to go back to the old holders for a few months. Or they could use a substitute material just for the inner holder. Barex was used widely in packaging pharmaceuticals - and several substitutes have been switched over too in the past year. PETG and COC seem to have emerged as the two most common.

 

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Not exactly the situation. The material for the inner holder - Barex - has dwindling supplies. There is no material problem for the outer holder

 

CGC obviously still has some Barex supplies, as magazines continue to be slabbed in the old holders.

 

CGC could attempt to source more Barex to go back to the old holders for a few months. Or they could use a substitute material just for the inner holder. Barex was used widely in packaging pharmaceuticals - and several substitutes have been switched over too in the past year. PETG and COC seem to have emerged as the two most common.

Just did a brief Google search about Barex closing its plant in Ohio -- and skimmed a couple of articles. From the sound of it, there are a handful of other plastics out there that could be used as a replacement. The catch is that it's probably very expensive to get set up with them as long-term manufacturers, and many of them are likely overseas.

 

Some other questions that come to mind: What kind of plastic do the competitors use for their holders, and are those plastics an option for CGC? Was the new holder design something that CGC was planning to do before the Barex plant shutdown anyway, or did they do as an emergency response to the situation?

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