mrmyst Posted December 22, 2016 Share Posted December 22, 2016 Interesting link to an article in the WSJ mentioning the 1998 Sotheby's auction, with a quote from Sam Frazer. 'Action 1 was cooling off' at $60K http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB897018068270252500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David P Hartman Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I remember ordering the Passaic Catalog, maybe 1968 or so. And it was big! 8 1/2 X 11, but it seemed to list everything except the # ones, or origin issues! I think they simply didn't want to commit to a printed price on these 'hot' books.... I remember the cover had a drawing of a jungle cat guy, tail and all.... Anyway, they did seem to have the largest catalog. But not the largest selection. Anyone else ever order back issues directly from the Marvel offices? I recall getting an Amazing Spider-Man annual 2, Marvel Tales #1, for a quarter each. Seems like Flo Steinberg was handling this dept. at the time. Another guy that use to sell through lists was Howard Leroy Davis. As I recall, he at some point had bought the publishing rights to some 1950's John Severin western material... possibly Prize Western? I think he was an architect in 'real life'? But, it is funny how much time and effort went into ordering just the lists. And or the fanzines that supplemented them! But, it was speculated that fandom had a core group of around 5000 people.... The 'science fiction' community looked down on us.... EVERYONE looked down on us! But man! By today's standards..... everything was cheap. But you could be looking for years to find that last issue to complete whatever set(s) that had eluded you thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I remember ordering the Passaic Catalog, maybe 1968 or so. And it was big! 8 1/2 X 11, but it seemed to list everything except the # ones, or origin issues! I think they simply didn't want to commit to a printed price on these 'hot' books.... I remember the cover had a drawing of a jungle cat guy, tail and all.... Anyway, they did seem to have the largest catalog. But not the largest selection. Anyone else ever order back issues directly from the Marvel offices? I recall getting an Amazing Spider-Man annual 2, Marvel Tales #1, for a quarter each. Seems like Flo Steinberg was handling this dept. at the time. Another guy that use to sell through lists was Howard Leroy Davis. As I recall, he at some point had bought the publishing rights to some 1950's John Severin western material... possibly Prize Western? I think he was an architect in 'real life'? But, it is funny how much time and effort went into ordering just the lists. And or the fanzines that supplemented them! But, it was speculated that fandom had a core group of around 5000 people.... The 'science fiction' community looked down on us.... EVERYONE looked down on us! But man! By today's standards..... everything was cheap. But you could be looking for years to find that last issue to complete whatever set(s) that had eluded you thus far. .... my buddy received an ASM 29 from Marvel's back issue department (Flo.... ) ....he still has it and the list of what else was still available. GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Yeah AZ would be a good guess. Sure would like to be there in the warm sun instead of cold and rainy LA today. I remember you telling me about ZZ Top living in your neighborhood and you as a kid got to go see them play in a garage. Doesn't one of them frequent one of your shops? Hope to see you at WonderCon. Not warm and sunny in Phoenix now...we're getting your rain...I actually put a coat on the last two days... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I remember ordering the Passaic Catalog, maybe 1968 or so. And it was big! 8 1/2 X 11, but it seemed to list everything except the # ones, or origin issues! I think they simply didn't want to commit to a printed price on these 'hot' books.... I remember the cover had a drawing of a jungle cat guy, tail and all.... Anyway, they did seem to have the largest catalog. But not the largest selection. Anyone else ever order back issues directly from the Marvel offices? I recall getting an Amazing Spider-Man annual 2, Marvel Tales #1, for a quarter each. Seems like Flo Steinberg was handling this dept. at the time. Another guy that use to sell through lists was Howard Leroy Davis. As I recall, he at some point had bought the publishing rights to some 1950's John Severin western material... possibly Prize Western? I think he was an architect in 'real life'? But, it is funny how much time and effort went into ordering just the lists. And or the fanzines that supplemented them! But, it was speculated that fandom had a core group of around 5000 people.... The 'science fiction' community looked down on us.... EVERYONE looked down on us! But man! By today's standards..... everything was cheap. But you could be looking for years to find that last issue to complete whatever set(s) that had eluded you thus far. I've known a few that got their back issues through Marvel way back then. Best SA book I've seen from an original owner though was a signed Fantastic Four #1 by Stan and Jack and dated late 1961 or early 1962. It was sent to them with a request for signatures by both on the first page inside with a date. I got a ton of sigs by Stan and Jack myself over the years at cons and such but having a dated copy so close to the original release.... Somewhere in my family there is a list of books Marvel had available around 1962 or 1963 that they got when requesting some back issues. I was never sure if Marvel really did have a few back issues available or if Stan was able to locate some for the few die hard fans of the time. I think Warren was the company though that really had good spreads in their mags for back issues. Marvel had a little bit too in the 1970's for their b&w mag line,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Back on Howard though, I have catalogues by him as far back as 1967. Does anyone know when his oldest catalogues are dated? I'm guessing his first ads were around 1965? Not sure without looking through back issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sqeggs Posted December 24, 2016 Author Share Posted December 24, 2016 Back on Howard though, I have catalogues by him as far back as 1967. Does anyone know when his oldest catalogues are dated? I'm guessing his first ads were around 1965? Not sure without looking through back issues. 1965 sounds about right for the first catalog I received from him. As I mentioned in an earlier post, iirc, that was the catalog that listed an FF 1 for $12 -- a price that my friends and I considered insanely high. I held on to that catalog for years and may still have it. Unfortunately, most of my comic-related stuff from that far back is stored away in boxes that I haven't opened in years. If I ever dig it out, I'll scan it and post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50YrsCollctngCmcs Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I remember ordering the Passaic Catalog, maybe 1968 or so. And it was big! 8 1/2 X 11, but it seemed to list everything except the # ones, or origin issues! I think they simply didn't want to commit to a printed price on these 'hot' books.... I remember the cover had a drawing of a jungle cat guy, tail and all.... Anyway, they did seem to have the largest catalog. But not the largest selection. Anyone else ever order back issues directly from the Marvel offices? I recall getting an Amazing Spider-Man annual 2, Marvel Tales #1, for a quarter each. Seems like Flo Steinberg was handling this dept. at the time. Another guy that use to sell through lists was Howard Leroy Davis. As I recall, he at some point had bought the publishing rights to some 1950's John Severin western material... possibly Prize Western? I think he was an architect in 'real life'? But, it is funny how much time and effort went into ordering just the lists. And or the fanzines that supplemented them! But, it was speculated that fandom had a core group of around 5000 people.... The 'science fiction' community looked down on us.... EVERYONE looked down on us! But man! By today's standards..... everything was cheap. But you could be looking for years to find that last issue to complete whatever set(s) that had eluded you thus far. In the late seventies there was a mail order dealer in California that went by BEA. Prices were good and the selection was always interesting. I ordered a bunch of books from them shipped back to my home in New Jersey. About four to five years ago I came across an old ad and discovered that they were based about two miles from where I live now in Temple City, CA. There was never a name and only a post box so I don't know who this was but some of my books have come back home! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Yes, I remember Bea as well. I got a lot of books from them. They were local for me so I drove over and picked them up in person. I got to go through piles of cheap Ga and bought a lot more while I was there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N e r V Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 I'm going to have to look that up. Must have seen that name in Overstreet or CBG ads. Bea sounds familiar though. One of my favourite ads of the era though was Theo Holsteins ad in Overstreet. If you have the 1976 edition it contains it. Not sure what other editions without looking. It's kooky even by 1970's standards although I guess he was pretty legit in his business. I don't think he did catalogues which is a shame. I could only imagine what terrific poses of himself he could have included in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Bea ran ads in the Comic Buyer's Guide. Wonderful ads, I never had enough money... Crazy Theo is still around. I run into him from time to time. A bit off the hook, but aren't we all? He has one of the best collections of Coin operated machines and original art around. Edited December 24, 2016 by Robot Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Bea ran ads in the Comic Buyer's Guide. Wonderful ads, I never had enough money... ....shouldn't a been blowin' it all on weed GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) .... I still remember the first time I spent $ 250 on one comic..... it was a Challengers of the Unknown 1...... it got easier and easier after that..... I wonder if $250 was the gateway to financial oblivion for others as well ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robot Man Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 Sex, drugs and Rock 'N Roll trumped comics at that time. Besides, I played in a band and rarely had to pay for it. I spent $150. on a copy of More Fun #52 when I was about 14. Had to mow a lot of lawns and delivered a lot of papers for that one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 That's a King's ransom at 14...... I was still hovering at the 20 dollar books then..... with my paper route money...... finally broke that barrier at 15 when I paid $ 22 for a NM copy of FF 5.......and it really was GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tri-Color Brian Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 (edited) Bea ran ads in the Comic Buyer's Guide. Wonderful ads, I never had enough money... Crazy Theo is still around. I run into him from time to time. A bit off the hook, but aren't we all? He has one of the best collections of Coin operated machines and original art around. I visited Bea's house in Temple City in 1994. They only charged 50% of guide. Really nice couple and very tight under-grading on their books, but unfortunately, by that time all of their golden age stuff was gone. I should have bought some Silver Age from them. I wonder if they are still around... Edited December 24, 2016 by tricolorbrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larryw7 Posted December 24, 2016 Share Posted December 24, 2016 BEA purchased books at 25% Overstreet and sold at 50%. I sent a ton of books to her, she would buy any comic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sartre Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 (edited) When I was about 12 in the 60's I ordered an early golden age Flash from Howard... instead I received a very nice copy of All Winners #21 with the only defect of a clean strip of tape down the spine...no explanation from Howard, but I was very happy... Edited December 26, 2016 by sartre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50YrsCollctngCmcs Posted December 26, 2016 Share Posted December 26, 2016 When I was about 12 in the 60's I ordered an early golden age Flash from Howard... instead I received a very nice copy of All Winners #21 with the only defect of a clean strip of tape down the spine...no explanation from Howard, but I was very happy... Flash -- All Flash -- All Winners. Clearly there is a connection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aardvark88 Posted March 8, 2017 Share Posted March 8, 2017 Here is a summary of CBM articles mentioning H. Rogofsky and Robert Bell with b/w pics: Rogofsky to Bell to Dolgoff Sample 1968 Robert Bell catalog prices all in "Good or better:" AF #15 $9 Amaz. Spider-man #1 $10 JIM 83 $8 Strange Tales #110 $2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
