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[crassus]

My only thought is, whats the point? His name is ruined already. Throw his name on the PL and lets leave it done. He's already done here.

 

I agree completely. The PL is not subject to vote and is the prerogative of, in this case, Hector. It is swifter and will have virtually the same consequences.

[Red84]

So he has officially stolen $150. Impressive. I think you can move straight to the HOS vote. Its unfortunate that his IP address can't be outright blocked.

[Red84]

To the PL list!

So let it be written. So let it be done.

[jaybuck43]

To the PL list!

So let it be written. So let it be done.

 

Hector has to nominate him.......

[The-Collector]

update. Seller removed themselves from our PM discussion. Says he does not have the funds for refund and it's out of his hands and in paypal's hands

 

I've escalated the issue with Paypal to a claim

Wow...just wow.

 

Is this worthy of the HOS? This situation just keeps getting worse.

 

 

I would think so...but I'm sure a couple of the bleeding hearts are chomping at the bit to defend him.

 

I usually consider myself a bleeding heart but I have no sympathy for this guy.

[RockMyAmadeus]

[wombat]

HOS?

 

 

 

[prez]

This is a tough one for hector. Check out 13.2 bullet 2

 

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/popup/UAeBay-outside

 

Looks like SFgreg saw this from a mile and has no intention in refunding hector.

[Semicentennial]

That truly sucks if that is the case.

[jsilverjanet]

This is a tough one for hector. Check out 13.2 bullet 2

 

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/popup/UAeBay-outside

 

Looks like SFgreg saw this from a mile and has no intention in refunding hector.

 

well I do have screenshots of him agreeing to the refund. I will share with paypal. I really hope i don't get screwed over $150

[thehumantorch]

This is a tough one for hector. Check out 13.2 bullet 2

 

https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=xpt/Marketing/popup/UAeBay-outside

 

Looks like SFgreg saw this from a mile and has no intention in refunding hector.

 

well I do have screenshots of him agreeing to the refund. I will share with paypal. I really hope i don't get screwed over $150

 

Sorry you're going through this. To ruin your reputation for such a measly amount. What a small time POS.

[PovertyRow]

I've just been reading and seeing how this all pans out. My own take is I would support PL. But I would also support HOS. The question of color touch was known to the seller. The seller persists in claiming ignorance of restoration. No attempt at reparation has been made. The seller took $150 and gave nothing, including an offer of a refund. The seller claimed lack of funds but bought books on the boards after the incident. The seller then removed themselves from discussions with jsilverjanet.

 

The HOS does not always have to be about large sums. It is as much about behavior and selling/buying ethics. I'm sure the seller is on many "do not do biz with" lists, but I feel at the very least he should be on the PL.

 

I am not sure how one of the stranger aspects went but the seller then offered to give the book to anyone who would submit it to CGC, even though a down payment for the book was already made and accepted.

 

Even if Paypal reimburses the $150 on the basis as Item Not Received, the behavior by SFHeroBoyGreg is completely unacceptable.

[jsilverjanet]

doing some work right now but I'll write up the PL tomorrow morning

[PovertyRow]

doing some work right now but I'll write up the PL tomorrow morning

 

Thanks, JS! (thumbs u

[oakman29]

I can't imagine ruining your reputation period,let alone for a 150 bucks.

 

Ethics seems to be out the window with this guy.

[jsilverjanet]

doing some work right now but I'll write up the PL tomorrow morning

 

Thanks, JS! (thumbs u

 

you're welcome PR!

[jsilverjanet]

I can't imagine ruining your reputation period,let alone for a 150 bucks.

 

Ethics seems to be out the window with this guy.

 

not sure how much to believe (if he truly believes this or he's lying to me) but he believes he did nothing wrong (regarding the color touch disclosure) and the lack of refund is the result of his sales/business ruined over this issue

 

I am paraphrasing but that was part of his last message to me

Edited April 13, 2015 by jsilverjanet

[Semicentennial]

One of the options that was offered was to ship the book for $150 and call it even but it looks like that too is off the table. This guy deserves to be on PL/HOS for his actions.

[wombat]

I wonder where he is going to sell it now.

[jsilverjanet]

I wonder where he is going to sell it now.

 

he has an ebay account but refused to disclose his ebayid to me