Aweandlorder Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 comicquant and badback83 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie999 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 9 minutes ago, Aweandlorder said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicdonna Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 I hate seeing "CGC it" in the title of an auction, for a non CGC book. wormboy and badback83 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, comicdonna said: I hate seeing "CGC it" in the title of an auction, for a non CGC book. It's just key word spamming, but quite an irritation to sort through. I notice a lot of auctions on eBay that list all three key words for the three slabbing companies. comicquant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoMan Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, The Resurrection said: Some of you are obviously not here to learn and just want to spout off your asinine ramblings and are turning this into a facebook comic book collecting, which may possibly be rock bottom. I have no desire to join a Facebook anything, especially not to experience a comic book collecting community. Without joining one, I am curious what makes them so terrible. I trust you that they're probably less then desirable (from what little Facebook nonsense I have experienced) just wonder why that is and am hoping that someone can give me the skinny without going to the trouble to experience it myself first hand. As always, thanks. Edited September 14, 2017 by NoMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 bwah ha ha he changed title but its still keyword spamming-REPORTED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mosconi Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) Hate to beat this dead horse any further, but if anyone wants to see how PGX's Silver Age grading compares to CGC, here's an example of their 4.5 in comparison to the only CGC 4.5 that I own (My scanner cut off the bottom portion of the ASM #3 but their are no tears or chips on the book). Edited September 15, 2017 by mosconi comicquant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Yeah, the PGX book is overgraded at 4.5. That said the CGC 4.5 is pretty damn sharp for a 4.5. So, while not a great comparison, your point is taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 13 hours ago, NoMan said: I have no desire to join a Facebook anything, especially not to experience a comic book collecting community. Without joining one, I am curious what makes them so terrible. I trust you that they're probably less then desirable (from what little Facebook nonsense I have experienced) just wonder why that is and am hoping that someone can give me the skinny without going to the trouble to experience it myself first hand. As always, thanks. There are a lot of people that, to be honest, don't know jack. Doesn't stop them from spouting off though. Lots of "side choosing". There are some good people posting as well, but too much nonsense to wade thru to read something worth reading. Better just to come here. Yeah, there's some nonsense but much easier to find good content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 14 hours ago, The Resurrection said: So we can agree that some of these noobs are really scraping the bottom of the peanut butter jar. Some for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 21 hours ago, Mackenzie999 said: Are you sure about cost? Plastic is generally inexpensive, there's no printing involved, and I always assumed the bulk of what you were paying for was the expertise of the graders. Really all you need are blank shells and an operator to seal them. I could easily be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time, but I'd be surprised if they couldn't hit the $5 mark. I think fraud would be the biggest issue, I'm a designer and it would take me about 30 seconds to fake a label. I'm not sure the potential for fraud would be any higher than it is for slabs that currently sport labels (to be clear, I'm not saying there's a lot of this kind of fraud happening today). Presumably, you're saying that anyone would be able to whip up a fake label and slip it into the slab, right? How is that any different than the situation right now? Are you saying the only thing keeping shady folks from doing this already is their inability to remove the label from the case? I've never tried, but I bet I could do it on a pre-2016 case. Not sure about the new cases. The point is, I'm not sure the risk for fraud is as high as you think. But if the company thought the same way you did, they could solve the problem pretty easily by placing a sticker on the inside of non-graded cases. Possibly a hologram sticker with the company logo, something large enough to see in any scanned image, but small enough that it doesn't detract from the book. I think removing a sticker on the inside of the case without breaking the case is MUCH harder than just a simply inserting a fake label. It would be a very cheap and easy fraud deterrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 If someone were to offer a "slabbing service only", who cares what's on the label other than the book info for identification purposes? Or if it could be swapped out or not? With no assigned grade the label is basically nothing more than a marketing tool. You've bought a sturdy comic bag. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie999 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 hour ago, Turtle said: I'm not sure the potential for fraud would be any higher... I didn't really think fraud would be a major issue, just guessing what any potential issues might be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, chrisco37 said: If someone were to offer a "slabbing service only", who cares what's on the label other than the book info for identification purposes? Or if it could be swapped out or not? With no assigned grade the label is basically nothing more than a marketing tool. You've bought a sturdy comic bag. That's it. The suggestion isn't for a "NG" label with only book information, it's for no label whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisco37 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Turtle said: 2 hours ago, chrisco37 said: If someone were to offer a "slabbing service only", who cares what's on the label other than the book info for identification purposes? Or if it could be swapped out or not? With no assigned grade the label is basically nothing more than a marketing tool. You've bought a sturdy comic bag. That's it. The suggestion isn't for a "NG" label with only book information, it's for no label whatsoever. You guys were talking about a "slab only" and about "label fraud" and "stickers on the inside" (of an ungraded book), right? Did I misunderstand the conversation? That's what I was responding to. If there is no assigned grade (no resto check, etc..), what's the point of a label? Why would you need a company sticker? What "fraud prevention" would need to be in place? Why would you need anything other than the slab itself? That's what I was trying to say. Edited September 15, 2017 by chrisco37 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 19 hours ago, chrisco37 said: On 9/14/2017 at 8:07 AM, The Resurrection said: Some of you are obviously not here to learn and just want to spout off your asinine ramblings and are turning this into a facebook comic book collecting, which may possibly be rock bottom Only thing I'd disagree with the above is the use of "possibly". Not directed at anybody in particular....., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 2 hours ago, lizards2 said: Not directed at anybody in particular....., Lizards2 does this mean your as sharp as a bowling ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 1 minute ago, woowoo said: Lizards2 does this mean your as sharp as a bowling ball ruffly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woowoo Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 12 minutes ago, lizards2 said: ruffly I found a better picture of you. lizards2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizards2 Posted September 15, 2017 Share Posted September 15, 2017 Just now, woowoo said: I found a better picture of you. That's actually my sister. Larryw7 and jhutton2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
