Forgotten photos. Random stuff from a lost file... 3 3

[batman_fan]

I found an old fond memory in my old photo bucket account.  Picture of me with some Batman's right after I finished the run.  I look so tired because this was right after my son was born.

[woowoo]

18 minutes ago, batman_fan said:

I found an old fond memory in my old photo bucket account.  Picture of me with some Batman's right after I finished the run.  I look so tired because this was right after my son was born.

Must of been your first CGC Batman since you should be holding the 1

[batman_fan]

16 minutes ago, woowoo said:

Must of been your first CGC Batman since you should be holding the 1

10 was the last one I needed to complete the run.  I actually found it to be the hardest to get because every copy I found had tanning on the edge.  This copy did as well but I later upgraded to a nice copy 

[N e r V]

Someone who was very important to Comics and sadly gone early in life is now not given the due respect he deserves for his part in comics. Others came after him to occupy what he and others built first.

 

 

 

 

[jpepx78]

2 hours ago, 40YrsCollctngCmcs said:

Great selection of photos!

Having grown up back east in New Jersey a short train ride from Manhattan I started to convince my parents and grandparents to take me to Seuling Cons starting in 1972. Alas, I have no photos only fun memories including Gil Kane coming up to me and telling me he was a pro. He might have been a child molester as far as I was concerned as I wondered why the creepy old man was bugging me.

When I received my first Overstreet it was a revelation. My battered first copy is shown below; I spent countless hours reading every page and uncovering the wonders of the history of these books I loved so much.

I discovered some ads for some New York back issue comic stores so I convinced my Grandmother to walk about 2 miles uptown from Penn Station to go to Supersnipe Comics on one trip which was my first entry into the world of specialty comic book stores. I picked up a copy of Donald Duck #30 that I still own to this day. I've never seen any photos of Supersnipe anywhere. I wish I could find one. 

 

Supersnipe Comic book emporium around October 1983.

 

[N e r V]

5 minutes ago, jpepx78 said:

Supersnipe Comic book emporium around October 1983.

 

[woowoo]

Batman and robin true identity HEY WHERE ARE THE COMICS

 

[woowoo]

Add for Detective 1on sale. The add had something wrong can you tell what's wrong. Hard to see only pic I have.

 

[N e r V]

8 minutes ago, woowoo said:

Add for Detective 1on sale. The add had something wrong can you tell what's wrong. Hard to see only pic I have.

 

To easy. 

 

The third and final title published under his aegis would be Detective Comics, advertised with a cover illustration dated December 1936, but eventually premiering three months later, with a March 1937 cover date. Wheeler-Nicholson was in debt to printing-plant owner and magazine distributor Harry Donenfeld, who was as well a pulp-magazine publisher and a principal in the magazine distributorship Independent News. Wheeler-Nicholson took Donenfeld on as a partner in order to publish Detective Comics #1 through the newly formed Detective Comics, Inc., with Wheeler-Nicholson and Jack S. Liebowitz, Donenfeld's accountant, listed as owners. Wheeler-Nicholson was forced out a year later.

 

I remember seeing all those old Detective comics scattered around the house on family visits as a kid and wondering why Batman wasn’t in those. I still think #1 is a stellar book to own although it seems less popular to collectors than before.

 

[jimjum12]

2 minutes ago, N e r V said:

I remember seeing all those old Detective comics scattered around the house on family visits as a kid and wondering why Batman wasn’t in those. I still think #1 is a stellar book to own although it seems less popular to collectors than before.

..... most likely due to collectors of today lacking the depth of sophistication necessary to appreciate things like that. GOD BLESS...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[N e r V]

Since wee wee brought up Detective comics...

 

Every time you think you’ve seen it all when it comes to original comic book art something turns up to prove that you haven’t. Exhibit A for that rule today is the Heritage Auctions announcement that 4 pages of 1939 production proofs from Detective Comics #27 just surfaced, having been in the possession of a man living in an apartment building where Bob Kane once lived, who rescued it from the curbside trash some 45 years ago.

Silver Age production art is not uncommon, but like the actual original art itself, Golden Age production art is extremely rare. Usually tossed in the trash, as these pages were. No actual original artwork from Detective Comics #27 is known to exist, although a single page of original art from Batman #1 is known to have survived to the present day.

[N e r V]

46 minutes ago, woowoo said:

Batman and robin true identity HEY WHERE ARE THE COMICS

 

 

[jpepx78]

[woowoo]

40 minutes ago, N e r V said:

To easy. 

 

The third and final title published under his aegis would be Detective Comics, advertised with a cover illustration dated December 1936, but eventually premiering three months later, with a March 1937 cover date. Wheeler-Nicholson was in debt to printing-plant owner and magazine distributor Harry Donenfeld, who was as well a pulp-magazine publisher and a principal in the magazine distributorship Independent News. Wheeler-Nicholson took Donenfeld on as a partner in order to publish Detective Comics #1 through the newly formed Detective Comics, Inc., with Wheeler-Nicholson and Jack S. Liebowitz, Donenfeld's accountant, listed as owners. Wheeler-Nicholson was forced out a year later.

 

I remember seeing all those old Detective comics scattered around the house on family visits as a kid and wondering why Batman wasn’t in those. I still think #1 is a stellar book to own although it seems less popular to collectors than before.

 

 Wow you did not have to go all Robert Beerbohm on me   simple  month and date  would have worked  You been drinking that woowoo drink  Merry Xmas Nerv

Edited December 24, 2017 by woowoo

[N e r V]

8 minutes ago, woowoo said:

 Wow you did not have to go all Robert Beerbohm on me   simple  month and date  would have worked  You been drinking that woowoo drink  Merry Xmas Nerv

 

 

 

So who’s Robbie BeerBomb????

Edited December 24, 2017 by N e r V

[woowoo]

2 minutes ago, N e r V said:

 

 

 

So who’s Robbie BeerBomb????

 

[Tri-Color Brian]

11 hours ago, N e r V said:

Someone who was very important to Comics and sadly gone early in life is now not given the due respect he deserves for his part in comics. Others came after him to occupy what he and others built first.

 

 

 

 

That clip from Mike's show is really interesting.  It's just amazing how the hobby has escalated since the late 70s...and I never knew nothin' about Seuling...seems to have been a nice guy.

[N e r V]

In 1972, Seuling founded Sea Gate Distributors, named after the Brooklyn community Sea Gate, where he lived as an adult. Seuling cut deals with Archie, DC, Marvel, and Warren to ship their comic books from a new distribution center in Sparta, Illinois, thereby developing the concept of the direct market distribution system for getting comics directly into comic book specialty shops, bypassing the then established newspaper/magazine distributor method. The move from newsstand distribution to the direct market (nonreturnable, heavily discounted, direct purchasing of comics from publishers) went hand-in-hand with the growth of specialty comics shops that catered to collectors who could then buy back issues months after a newsstand issue had disappeared.

Comics historian Mark Evanier, noting the significance, wrote that

. . . it became apparent that the old method was being destroyed, with or without selling books the Seuling way, so DC, Marvel and other companies tried it. Within a year, around 25% of all comic books were being sold via 'direct' distribution, through Seuling's company and about a dozen others, with 75% still on conventional newsstands. Within ten years, those percentages were reversed. Today, the 'direct market' is the primary market.

Seuling ran Sea Gate with his then-girlfriend Jonni Levas. A key element of Sea Gate's new distribution system was a prepay requirement for customers, which, given the low margins of comics retailing at the time (and the fact that many books shipped late), was onerous for many of the stores.By the late 1970s, however, thanks to Seuling's changes to distribution — and the merchandizing success of such comic-book-styled films as Star Wars and Superman — comics were selling well: in the six years between 1974 and 1980, U.S. "comic or fantasy-related specialty shops" rose from 200 or 300 to around 1500.

In late 1977 or early 1978, Sea Gate set up regional sub-distributors who were buying product at a 50% discount. This reduced Seuling's paperwork and enabled the sub-distributors to sell smaller orders than Sea Gate's minimum of five copies of each comic book title.

Seuling maintained a virtual monopoly on comics distribution, until a lawsuit brought by New Media/Irjax in 1978. Irjax sued DC, Marvel, Archie, and Warren for their anti-competitive arrangement with Seagate.As a result of the suit, Irjax eventually acquired "a sizable chunk of the direct-distribution market,"and many of Seulings's sub-distributors left Sea Gate to become independent distributors.

[50YrsCollctngCmcs]

Thanks for posting the SuperSnipe photos and the Seuling information folks. Seuling looks young now though he looked old to me when I was a kid going to his show. I've posted the photos below before but this thread seems like a good place to post again. The 1973-1976 conventions were the Golden Age of comic collecting for me which culminated in a wild season of shows in 1976 when DC and Marvel put on their own conventions. 

I also got to meet some fun pros and even got to help Jim Warren fold some sheets at his booth as he enshrined on my autograph page!

Enjoy!

[1950's war comics]

This is a GREAT thread !! thank you everybody !!