Darkowl Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 It's unreal how this book keeps climbing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-0-Marvel-1974-1st-Full-Wolverine-99-No-Reserve-/192636032208?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720 ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 That does seem a bit unreal. A 9.2 ow/w sold on Heritage for $5,760 less than a month ago. Timmay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Darkowl said: It's unreal how this book keeps climbing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-0-Marvel-1974-1st-Full-Wolverine-99-No-Reserve-/192636032208?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720 I remember when a 9.0 would only cost a grand a few years ago. Yep Hulk #181 is following the same path as AF#15 1950's war comics, Darkowl and Tony S 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500Club Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: 2 hours ago, Darkowl said: It's unreal how this book keeps climbing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-0-Marvel-1974-1st-Full-Wolverine-99-No-Reserve-/192636032208?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720 I remember when a 9.0 would only cost a grand a few years ago. Yep Hulk #181 is following the same path as AF#15 The amazing part is when you consider the supply side of the equation. It almost makes you wonder if you can ever argue ‘but there’s x number of copies out there!, aside from Lee X-Men 1, X-Force 1, and McSpidey 1. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MGsimba77 Posted September 3, 2018 Share Posted September 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Darkowl said: It's unreal how this book keeps climbing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-0-Marvel-1974-1st-Full-Wolverine-99-No-Reserve-/192636032208?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720 5 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: I remember when a 9.0 would only cost a grand a few years ago. Yep Hulk #181 is following the same path as AF#15 It's fake! He'll relist it a few days from now. He's already sold a couple of others only to relist them shortly after. They're just trying to push up the value with fake auctions or BIN sales Gotham Kid, TheBook, Chillax23 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tony S Posted September 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 4, 2018 There might be some fake sales out there. On Facebook raffle groups have become fairly popular. Books are typically raffled off at a 20% premium of the GPA price. So people raffling off books have some interest in - if they can - manipulating the GPA price. However, Hulk 181 is a book that every month hundreds of CGC graded copies are sold and recorded. And CGC has graded now 10,000+ copies. So it's hard to move the needle a lot with manipulated sales. Also - if you look at Hulk 181 in CGC graded 8.0 or better you see nothing but green arrows going up by substantial amounts. August has seen record prices for all high grade copies. The 90 day GPA average for 9.2 (10 sales) is $6601. The last sale on 8/6 was $8000. The 90 day average for 9.4 is $8328 - and the last sale Sept 1 was $9599. Which isn't even a record. Four days earlier a 9.4 sold for $9900 This book is just on a tear right now. A few manipulated sales aren't making a difference. Bomber-Bob, Darkowl, SuperGrover and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkowl Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tony S said: There might be some fake sales out there. On Facebook raffle groups have become fairly popular. Books are typically raffled off at a 20% premium of the GPA price. So people raffling off books have some interest in - if they can - manipulating the GPA price. However, Hulk 181 is a book that every month hundreds of CGC graded copies are sold and recorded. And CGC has graded now 10,000+ copies. So it's hard to move the needle a lot with manipulated sales. Also - if you look at Hulk 181 in CGC graded 8.0 or better you see nothing but green arrows going up by substantial amounts. August has seen record prices for all high grade copies. The 90 day GPA average for 9.2 (10 sales) is $6601. The last sale on 8/6 was $8000. The 90 day average for 9.4 is $8328 - and the last sale Sept 1 was $9599. Which isn't even a record. Four days earlier a 9.4 sold for $9900 This book is just on a tear right now. A few manipulated sales aren't making a difference. Exactly. The 9.0 grade is easily locked in the 5k and up range if you look at the completed listings on ebay. Edited September 4, 2018 by Darkowl Tony S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Man if 181 sells for that much just imagine what the first appearance is worth!!! Beige, 1950's war comics, Red84 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 26 minutes ago, kav said: Man if 181 sells for that much just imagine what the first appearance is worth!!! Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. october and SkOw 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Point Five said: Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. Finally someone LISTENS. Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 29 minutes ago, kav said: Finally someone LISTENS. It's much rarer too.... listening and #180 but but it'll probably never be as popular as 181 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drbearsec Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 hours ago, ComicConnoisseur said: I remember when a 9.0 would only cost a grand a few years ago. Yep Hulk #181 is following the same path as AF#15 And TMNT 1... That's another that has been growing at an alarming pace (Alarming cause I don't own one :-( ) ComicConnoisseur and Tony S 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drbearsec Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 1 hour ago, kav said: Man if 181 sells for that much just imagine what the first appearance is worth!!! Another book that's been climbing as well... but really weird how the market dictated that. ComicConnoisseur 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ComicConnoisseur Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Drbearsec said: And TMNT 1... That's another that has been growing at an alarming pace (Alarming cause I don't own one :-( ) Agreed I could see TMNT #1, NM #98 and Star Wars #1 also following down the same path like Hulk #181 and AF#15. Not because they are super rare, but the demand for those 5 books TMNT #1, NM #98,Star Wars #1,Hulk #181 and AF#15 continues to grow. 1950's war comics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drbearsec Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, ComicConnoisseur said: Agreed I could see TMNT #1, NM #98 and Star Wars #1 also following down the same path like Hulk #181 and AF#15. Not because they are super rare, but the demand for those 5 books TMNT #1, NM #98,Star Wars #1,Hulk #181 and AF#15 continues to grow. ASM 129 is another. I've seen a lot of movement on that. Not Hulk 181 level but still. STORMSHADOW_80, Tony S and ComicConnoisseur 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotham Kid Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, MGsimba77 said: 5 hours ago, Darkowl said: It's unreal how this book keeps climbing. https://www.ebay.com/itm/Incredible-Hulk-181-CGC-9-0-Marvel-1974-1st-Full-Wolverine-99-No-Reserve-/192636032208?nordt=true&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m43663.l44720 It's fake! He'll relist it a few days from now. He's already sold a couple of others only to relist them shortly after. They're just trying to push up the value with fake auctions or BIN sales yup Edited September 4, 2018 by Gotham Kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 3 hours ago, Gotham Kid said: yup He had on his listing that he's relisted it 3 times due to non paying bidders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnexus Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 This is also the guy who supposedly sold the X-men 510 Campbell Sketch variant for 12.5k. (The same one where there's no buyer listed in the history section of that item.) MGsimba77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beige Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Kav is right. Eventually #180 will be recognised for what it is - 1st Wolvie. I don't have either for exactly that reason. mustang33guy, kav, Krydel4 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkowl Posted September 4, 2018 Author Share Posted September 4, 2018 Fake listing or not, it's clear that this book continues to climb unlike most other keys, and there really hasn't been a cap placed on its value. I think that's the important part. I'm quite sure it won't be long before 9.0's regulary sell for 6K. MGsimba77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
