dupont2005 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan510 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, kav said: I guess repeatedly suggesting someone is a child isnt an ad hominem? Of course it is, but that doesn't fit the narrative. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 Even worse tho is ADAMANTIUM-hominem!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, kav said: I guess repeatedly suggesting someone is a child isnt an ad hominem? Just now, kav said: Even worse tho is ADAMANTIUM-hominem!!! Believe me the thought is not lost on me Especially coming from the person who then claims that we always defunct into, "I know you are but what am !?!" It doesn't matter though to me it's just that the "people reading this thread!" Line we remember his educational television interrupting me an the starter of the thread, you, in a friendly banter.... I must have insulted my intelligence.... glad for the correction Logan510 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 27, 2019 Author Share Posted February 27, 2019 15 minutes ago, ADAMANTIUM said: Believe me the thought is not lost on me Especially coming from the person who then claims that we always defunct into, "I know you are but what am !?!" It doesn't matter though to me it's just that the "people reading this thread!" Line we remember his educational television interrupting me an the starter of the thread, you, in a friendly banter.... I must have insulted my intelligence.... glad for the correction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Karl Liebl said: Watched him sign it myself in like 78. Not for sale. Don't care about the green label. Probably won't ever get anything signed again but still enjoy this one. Very nice signature placement there. You're right, it's a keeper. kav 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 20 hours ago, RockMyAmadeus said: "Consider the source", especially on threads like these, becomes paramount. You have people who have no experience with the SS program, don't go to cons, don't get things signed, don't participate in the SS program at all, who don't talk to the SS program people at CGC, who don't participate in organizing conventions, who don't talk to convention promoters, who openly confess they have zero interest in signed books in the first place, and think it's "defacing" the comics, and who do none of the things necessary to make an informed, educated contribution to this discussion. Instead, they make bad, ignorant, simplistic arguments like "I can't negotiate with my dentist" (no, but you can go elsewhere, and you probably aren't charged a different price for the service based on what you intend to do with your teeth) and "I don't see what the problem is charging a different price for the same service." They don't know how much business the creator is doing. They aren't even in a position to guess. They don't know that certain creators sit at conventions all weekend long, with no business the entire time, because they've priced themselves out of the market. They don't know that the creators or their reps complain to promoters that they "had a bad show." They don't know that creators are being lied to, and peer pressured, into charging more than they otherwise would. The have no idea that creators don't participate in the SS market, and so generally have no idea how it works, other than "people are making $$$ off you!" They don't understand that creators are creators for a reason; they're not economists, they're mostly not businessmen and women, and they don't really deal with "the business end" of things, which opens them up, in fear and greed, to manipulation by others. And, frankly...they don't care that creators suffer because they don't get business, and they don't care that their lives are finite, or that a "bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"...in other words, $10 for 150 books now is better than $20 for 0 books never. They don't care that creators are hurt by alienating fans, that fans are hurt by being treated like they're somehow taking advantage of the creator if they want their book slabbed, and CGC is hurt...whether it's obvious at the moment or not...by not getting submissions they otherwise would. Of course they "don't see a problem" with charging different prices...why would they? They don't participate in the first place. They have no stake...and thus don't care. My advice..? You want to have an informed, educated opinion on the matter, go to these conventions and observe the situation. Be a witness (CGC is always looking for witness help.) Work the SS program, and see how it operates. Talk to creators. If you don't care about the Signature Series program or signed books in the first place, have never participated in it, and have no clue how it works, and zero interest in getting anything signed...explain to me again how your opinion has value...? A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 If you have to tell people things are bad for them maybe things aren't so bad for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, ADAMANTIUM said: Believe me the thought is not lost on me That's not what ad-hominem is, or how it works. 2 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said: Especially coming from the person who then claims that we always defunct into, "I know you are but what am !?!" Who is "we"? Do you know? And what is the rest of the context of that statement? 2 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said: It doesn't matter though to me it's just that the "people reading this thread!" Line we remember his educational television interrupting me an the starter of the thread, you, in a friendly banter.... I must have insulted my intelligence.... glad for the correction I posted several YouTube clips, without comment. Do you know why, or to whom they were directed, if anyone...? How does one "interrupt" others on a threaded message board...? Lots of assumptions you're making here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 15 minutes ago, the blob said: A mind is a terrible thing to waste. You are better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: That's not what ad-hominem is, or how it works. Who is "we"? Do you know? And what is the rest of the context of that statement? I posted several YouTube clips, without comment. Do you know why, or to whom they were directed, if anyone...? How does one "interrupt" others on a threaded message board...? Lots of assumptions you're making here. everyone I was talking to understood me perfect who said I was talking about you? assumptions are made and understood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 2 hours ago, ADAMANTIUM said: Believe me the thought is not lost on me Especially coming from the person who then claims that we always defunct into, "I know you are but what am !?!" It doesn't matter though to me it's just that the "people reading this thread!" Line we remember his educational television interrupting me an the starter of the thread, you, in a friendly banter.... I must have insulted my intelligence.... glad for the correction Now ya did it!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, ADAMANTIUM said: everyone I was talking to understood me perfect who said I was talking about you? assumptions are made and understood I understood you perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 minutes ago, RockMyAmadeus said: You are better than this. You could have developed warp speed technology or cured herpes with the amount of brain power you have devoted to this trivial topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, the blob said: You could have developed warp speed technology or cured herpes with the amount of brain power you have devoted to this trivial topic. Herpes has been cured. Tagamet. Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, ADAMANTIUM said: everyone I was talking to understood me perfect who said I was talking about you? assumptions are made and understood You quoted me in multiple places. Did you forget that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kav Posted February 28, 2019 Author Share Posted February 28, 2019 We're still working on warp speed tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockMyAmadeus Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 minute ago, the blob said: You could have developed warp speed technology or cured herpes with the amount of brain power you have devoted to this trivial topic. Do you think it's trivial to the people who participate in the Signature Series program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADAMANTIUM Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, kav said: I understood you perfect. I would edit and say "perfectly" but I have no dog in this fight.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the blob Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, kav said: We're still working on warp speed tech. I want the vulcans to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
