The Distribution of US Published Comics in the UK (1959~1982) 16 16

[Albert Tatlock]

An unusually late non-T & P stamp on this one, almost exactly in the centre, pretty faint, and also with a US arrival date of 12-13 (December 13)th..

Edited November 14, 2022 by Albert Tatlock
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[Get Marwood & I]

The second UKPV hiatus #84 is the one we expect to see the 'Goldstar' 10d oblong stamp on....

...so the #87 is indeed later than usual, but that's not uncommon.

They seemed to like stamping in the white of a cover burst didn't they:

 

Or writing! 

A March 1967 cover dated issue would usually have been distributed 3 months prior in the US, so a December cover arrival date is bang on. And it shows that the book was distributed - and presumably failed to sell - in the US. Unless someone in the UK dated it of course...

I found this in the files:

 

I don't remember making it - did I ever post it? It's likely out of date now, anyway. I'll add the TOS #87 to it later and maybe have another scout about for more.

[Albert Tatlock]

On 11/14/2022 at 10:09 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Unless someone in the UK dated it of course...

12-13 can only be a US date.

When T &P failed to bring over the Nov/Dec 66 issues, someone, presumably Goldstar, stepped into the breach and the missing issues surfaced 6 months on, albeit in reduced quantities.

The TOS 87, however, appears to be a remaindered US copy. Possibly the DD29 that crops up with the same stamp was too. They probably arrived at the same time as FF 56, 57 and the rest of them, but we may never know.

The TOS is on ebay, it will show up more clearly here, I hope, under this serial number..

295336566374

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/14/2022 at 1:03 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

On 11/14/2022 at 10:09 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

Unless someone in the UK dated it of course...

12-13 can only be a US date.

An American on holiday, who liked to date his comics? 

[Albert Tatlock]

On 11/14/2022 at 1:08 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

An American on holiday,

On vacation, buddy.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/14/2022 at 1:12 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

On vacation, buddy.

His description of it would be, pal, yes, but my description of it wouldn't. 

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/14/2022 at 10:09 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

I'll add the TOS #87 to it later and maybe have another scout about for more.

I added all the other images I'd collected and scoured for a few more - the updated table is filling up nicely:

Richmond's TTA #86 is still stubbornly absent but it does look like all the other UKPV bearing titles in the second UKPV hiatus may turn out to have both the 10d oblong and one shilling circle priced copies out there. A bit like the first hiatus table I put together, showing all the T&P stamped copies in the gap. 

I'll print this off and take it to the next fair - see if I can find any of the missing stamped issues. 

 

[Malacoda]

On 11/14/2022 at 3:00 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

Richmond's TTA #86 is still stubbornly absent

Ahhhh....the white whale.  T&P stamp? Nope.  Goldstar stamp? Nope.  Every other kind of stamp we can't ever identify?  Oh yes.  Hell yes. 

By the way.....note the 1/- stamp.  Marvel comics did not cost 1/- until a full year after this, so unless it's an expensive Irish one or something, it must have taken the scenic route. 

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Malacoda
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[Albert Tatlock]

Checked my ASM 42, but it is a circular 1/-, placed very carefully in the only clear white area of sufficient size.

Ethel would have done well to fear losing her position to this stamper..

 

 

Edited November 16, 2022 by Albert Tatlock
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[Malacoda]

On 11/14/2022 at 3:00 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

I added all the other images I'd collected and scoured for a few more - the updated table is filling up nicely:

Richmond's TTA #86 is still stubbornly absent but it does look like all the other UKPV bearing titles in the second UKPV hiatus may turn out to have both the 10d oblong and one shilling circle priced copies out there. A bit like the first hiatus table I put together, showing all the T&P stamped copies in the gap. 

I'll print this off and take it to the next fair - see if I can find any of the missing stamped issues. 

 

This is a fantastic table. For my own sinister purposes, I did it differently because, when you put FM, CIC, MTM etc into the table you suddenly see a logical pattern of distribution rather than an illogical pattern of stamping.  But this is very cool and useful.  I take it that, where you have in the notes 10d, 1/- etc, if it's mentioned then it is ALWAYS and ONLY the same kind of stamp i.e. where you say 10d, it's always that one that we suspect is Goldstar and no other 10d stamp and as far as you're aware there are no other 10d stamps for that issue?   

Edited November 16, 2022 by Malacoda

[Malacoda]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:29 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

Checked my ASM 42, but it is a circular 1/-, placed very carefully in the only clear white area of sufficient size.

Ethel would have done well to fear losing her position to this stamper..

Blimey, that's a beaut (both the comic and the stamp).  No corner blunting or chipping. Yummy. 

[Albert Tatlock]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:33 PM, Malacoda said:

No corner blunting or chipping.

I think they had solved the chipping problem, so common in the early 1960s, by this time, but perhaps there are some later examples.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:29 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

Checked my ASM 42, but it is a circular 1/-, placed very carefully in the only clear white area of sufficient size.

Ethel would have done well to fear losing her position to this stamper..

I've got about six examples of the circular shilling stamp in the files for #42. I've looked at hundreds of UK based examples online, and out and about, and have yet to see a 10d oblong one.

On 11/16/2022 at 12:31 PM, Malacoda said:

This is a fantastic table. For my own sinister purposes, I did it differently because, when you put FM, CIC, MTM etc into the table you suddenly see a logical pattern of distribution rather than an illogical pattern of stamping.  But this is very cool and useful.  I take it that, where you have in the notes 10d, 1/- etc, if it's mentioned then it is ALWAYS and ONLY the same kind of stamp i.e. where you say 10d, it's always that one that we suspect is Goldstar and no other 10d stamp and as far as you're aware there are no other 10d stamps for that issue?   

Yes, a tick in the column indicates the stamp as per the image at the top of the table column. If I've found any other stamp types, they're noted in the far right column. I likely have a few to add if memory serves - the saved images are split across multiple files so I need to check them all. 

I have quite a few 10d oblong Goldstar stamps on other publishers too, for cover dates outside the Marvel Hiatus ones. 

I'd like to pull everything together at some point, in one sequential post / journal entry, as all the data gets lost in this thread and others, and I find myself forgetting about a lot of it. 

[Albert Tatlock]

Whoever was stamping these had a stack to go at, as the back of my copy shows the imprint of the one next in the pile, and a fainter one next to it.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:29 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

Checked my ASM 42, but it is a circular 1/-, placed very carefully in the only clear white area of sufficient size.

Ethel would have done well to fear losing her position to this stamper..

 

 

That's nice.

I used to own this Spidey below - long gone now. I wish I'd kept it, as my love for the stamps has grown to the point where I actually prefer them to clean unstamped copies:

[Albert Tatlock]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:55 PM, Get Marwood & I said:

I actually prefer them to clean unstamped copies:

Not too late to get a stamp made, and 'improve' your portfolio.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 11/16/2022 at 12:59 PM, Albert Tatlock said:

Not too late to get a stamp made, and 'improve' your portfolio.

Indeed. Good job that UK stamps are universally disliked on both sides of the pond, otherwise someone likely would have by now.

[Get Marwood & I]

Rooting around in the files, the late in the day DD #29 has both the shilling and 10d oblong on it, which could be telling:

 

Here's the 'early' Thor #128 10d, alongside a different style of shilling stamped #131 (same as Richmond's TTA #86):

...and a different 10d stamp on this TTA #85, for which we only have a 10d oblong Goldstar stamp (no shilling circle so far):

I have others, but I need to tidy up the files!

[Get Marwood & I]

Back to Tee and Pee, I spotted this nice 1961 magazine online in the week which I hadn't seen before, stamped two and six:

  

I've still got a few of those 1-9 numbered price grids to complete, come to think of it. 

[Albert Tatlock]

Another pie with Goldstar fingers in it.

2/6 price is crossed out and '9' written in same ink at top right.