Have Pulps become the next “big thing”? 3 3

[waaaghboss]

On 2/24/2024 at 3:43 PM, comicjack said:

Lots of graded pulps showing up in auctions and everywhere so it starts good or bad 

Kinda hoping the whole thing crashes and burns and we can go back to pre 2018 pricing 😈 

[jimjum12]

On 2/24/2024 at 9:59 PM, waaaghboss said:

Kinda hoping the whole thing crashes and burns and we can go back to pre 2018 pricing 😈 

That only works if the inventory also goes back to 2018. I wish I'd kept a few of mine. GOD BLESS ...

-jimbo(a friend of jesus)

[Darwination]

No matter how much it catches on, there's gonna be some issues now where it's more common to see them slabbed than "raw" (and I can't even believe I'm using that word).  So to get (what's already likely an expensive issue in the first place) you're paying at least the extra 50 bucks someone paid for the grade and press and likely much more extra because "look, it's in a shiny box."  In the comics down in my lowroller ballpark, viola, a 75 or 100 dollar book is now instantly a 250 or 300 dollar book.  Not to mention it's giving a helluva lot of agency/cream to a third party.  I see around here all the time "buy the book not the grade," then why the hell pay all the extra costs for the grading?  In the Baker thread, for example, I see books in the 3.0 range that are much more appealing to the eye than others graded up around 5-6.  If the comic ain't leaving the box anyways, why pay multiples more for a book that looks half as nice?  Worried about resto or trimming? Because other people are?  Because you're worried about your investment?  If you don't know it's there, should it really bother you?  I see on threads where people are perfectly happy with a book until some little defect comes to their awareness and then they just have to sell.  Because of the idea of perfection.  What I truly get a kick out of, though, are the people that are slabbing willy nilly, like some modern book in mid-grade.  It's like, bro, put that slabbing cost towards a better copy and you could own 3 of the mintiest of the same book.  And then there's the fact that sometimes a book being CGC'd actually creates a situation where a buyer has no recourse.  A pal bought a slabbed expensive book to get some missing pages for a scan, cracks it, and, viola, missing cf.  Is the seller at fault?  Not really, how's he supposed to know?  No returns on slabs - and now it's not slabbed anyways.  CGC gonna kick down in this instance? sheeeeeit.....

 

But

GAC is right, collectors gonna collect. I'll just try not to cry too much over the prices doubling And I won't be if I ever sell my girlie pulps

 

[Upgrayedd2]

If, as noted above, there are already graded copies, when will the stats appear at Key Collector, GPAnalysis, GoCollect?

[tth2]

On 2/26/2024 at 1:53 AM, Darwination said:

No matter how much it catches on, there's gonna be some issues now where it's more common to see them slabbed than "raw" (and I can't even believe I'm using that word).  So to get (what's already likely an expensive issue in the first place) you're paying at least the extra 50 bucks someone paid for the grade and press and likely much more extra because "look, it's in a shiny box."  In the comics down in my lowroller ballpark, viola, a 75 or 100 dollar book is now instantly a 250 or 300 dollar book.  Not to mention it's giving a helluva lot of agency/cream to a third party.  I see around here all the time "buy the book not the grade," then why the hell pay all the extra costs for the grading?  In the Baker thread, for example, I see books in the 3.0 range that are much more appealing to the eye than others graded up around 5-6.  If the comic ain't leaving the box anyways, why pay multiples more for a book that looks half as nice?  Worried about resto or trimming? Because other people are?  Because you're worried about your investment?  If you don't know it's there, should it really bother you?  I see on threads where people are perfectly happy with a book until some little defect comes to their awareness and then they just have to sell.  Because of the idea of perfection.  What I truly get a kick out of, though, are the people that are slabbing willy nilly, like some modern book in mid-grade.  It's like, bro, put that slabbing cost towards a better copy and you could own 3 of the mintiest of the same book.  And then there's the fact that sometimes a book being CGC'd actually creates a situation where a buyer has no recourse.  A pal bought a slabbed expensive book to get some missing pages for a scan, cracks it, and, viola, missing cf.  Is the seller at fault?  Not really, how's he supposed to know?  No returns on slabs - and now it's not slabbed anyways.  CGC gonna kick down in this instance? sheeeeeit.....

I had to doublecheck to see if I hadn't somehow opened a thread from 2003.

[GACollectibles]

On 2/25/2024 at 3:54 PM, Upgrayedd2 said:

If, as noted above, there are already graded copies, when will the stats appear at Key Collector, GPAnalysis, GoCollect?

I don't know about those, but they started showing up HERE!

[waaaghboss]

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Edited February 26 by waaaghboss

[ThothAmon]

On 2/26/2024 at 11:39 AM, GACollectibles said:

I don't know about those, but they started showing up HERE!

Very cool. Hope you don’t mind a few questions. Were you satisfied with the grades and process?  Care to share what the average price of slabbing all in is?  Do they take up an ungainly amount of space?  Are any of those books worth more than a $1000 in your estimation?  Thanks for sharing. 

[GACollectibles]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:08 PM, ThothAmon said:

Very cool. Hope you don’t mind a few questions. Were you satisfied with the grades and process?  Care to share what the average price of slabbing all in is?  Do they take up an ungainly amount of space?  Are any of those books worth more than a $1000 in your estimation?  Thanks for sharing. 

@Triston Pence (they are his books)

[ThothAmon]

On 2/26/2024 at 2:14 PM, GACollectibles said:

@Triston Pence (they are his books)

Thanks. Clicked on your link after my post and figured that. 

[Upgrayedd2]

On 2/25/2024 at 10:54 AM, Upgrayedd2 said:

If, as noted above, there are already graded copies, when will the stats appear at Key Collector, GPAnalysis, GoCollect?

Heard back from GoCollect: No plans to add pulps for the foreseeable future. However, they added they would check to see if this is something that could be considered sooner rather than later.

[johnenock]

There are a few graded pulps on eBay too. High prices!

I feel like it's going to be difficult to figure out what a deal is or what an overpay is for awhile.

Hopefully, the prices for my cheap VG+ to Fine books don't get slabbed and remain relatively affordable.

[Robot Man]

On 2/27/2024 at 6:23 AM, johnenock said:

There are a few graded pulps on eBay too. High prices!

I feel like it's going to be difficult to figure out what a deal is or what an overpay is for awhile.

Hopefully, the prices for my cheap VG+ to Fine books don't get slabbed and remain relatively affordable.

I just don’t know what they are worth anymore. Obviously going up especially slabbed. The ones posted above are most likely over $400 but $1,000? Any 6.0 or better for sure. There is so very little documentation on pulp sales except maybe EBay or Heritage. Many probably have no sales records. CGC doesn’t know and seems to being leaving it to us when we list insurance coverage.

As far as overpaying is concerned, it is intimately up to you to decide if it is worth it to you. Like comics, pay what makes you comfortable. In all my years collecting, if I felt I over paid at time of purchase, I laugh at those prices now. I also to keep my stuff long term anyway. 

Pulps are the wild, Wild West right now.

[waaaghboss]

Sent out a few books out of curiosity for how this grading thing works, some thoughts.  The case fits the size of a comic case on the surface, you can stack these non bedsheets slabs on top of comic slab and they lock in.  They're twice as thick.

Not entirely happy with the build quality, the inner sleeve scrapes/moves slightly when you turn the slab over.  I only have 2 graded comics but imagine this isn't the case with those.  I wouldn't think that this hurts the book but I'm surprised there's movement between the inner sleeve and the case.  

Aesthetically, I'm not really happy with how these display.  The big shell of a case and the distracting logo distract away from, imo, the beauty of the books.  I might be biased however from disliking how graded comics present. 

Happy with the grade on this one, when I first got it I was actually thrown off by the pages not looking like the pages from an old pulp.  Turns out they were just white.  Grader notes show small amount of glue but it kept the blue label.

Sent in this one with CT, happy with the grade.  I'm hoping that purple label pulps get the same stigma that purple label comics get, because I'll take a book for half the price due to a small amount of color touch any day.  But I suspect pulp collectors are a bit more savvy and less label chasers.  I buy books with glued on covers, missing spines, a tiny color touch is almost meaningless compared to other defects I accept 😆 

Happy with the grade.  Got this from an adventure house auction, and their grade they listed it at is exactly the grade it got from cgc.  Whoever grades their books is spot on!

Grader notes didn't mention staple rust, but did cover the water damage to cover.  

 

Overall not disappointed,  but don't think I'll grade too many more books.  These things are big, and aesthetically I prefer the books in a plain mylar bag.  Edited to clean up some language, I'm trying to make this post on my phone while being assaulted by an 85lb dog that insists it's his time for a morning walk 🐕 😈 

 

Dog for reference 

Edited February 27 by waaaghboss

[Darwination]

Awesome post, thanks for the breakdown.  That Complete Gang is a peach.  You should get a good comp (or at least an initial comp) on that Saucy, saw one in a similar grade in the April HA auction.  No mention of staple rust is not good, but it's not like you get that mentioned in pulp listings often anyways.   I like a nice pic of the ifc spread in eBay listings (and even the ibc spread), gives an idea of page color for inner covers and pulp pages as well a look at the staples.  The color touch denotation is necessary for sure, and I'm guessing they note glue on cover but not glue at the inner binding?

I think Weird Tales prices will take off (as if they hadn't already).  So many people have collected those for so long, if you had the dough you can actually get a set - don't doubt we have members that already do or are close.  Probably my favorite pulp but I already don't even pick them up except for later issues (read non-Brundage or beater Brundage) cuz they are pricey.