BuscemasAvengers Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Last week???? What took them so long. One wonders how long the processing of the collection (from the 'find' to the slabbing) took. Is it realistic to assume the 'find' occurred in the Fall of 2020? Summer of 2020? Earlier? Edited April 29, 2021 by BuscemasAvengers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, lou_fine said: The part I am wondering about, is that with everybody here constantly complaining about CCS's and CGC's deadly slow turnaround times in terms of waiting months on end to get their books back, how are these books able to get pancaked, graded, and slabbed just like that. Especially when their online submission system is apparently crashing on a regular basis due to all of the submissions coming in before their deadline to raise prices. I guess when you have such a massive quality collection like this, you get to set not only your own turnaround times, but also get to have their undisclosed grading standards personalized to take into account some of the visual pecularities that appears to be inherent with most of the books that we have seen so far from this collection. Realistically big HA orders are probably going to get a bit of preferential treatment. Say 5000 x 100 = 500,000 in fees? Are you going to work on that 500k order from a closely connected company, or work on Joe Schmucklack’s 9.4 Avengers 398? greggy, Gotham Kid and Badger 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 30 minutes ago, adamstrange said: Berk got record prices for many lesser condition books. Where there were bargains were more in the upper end Church copies, of which there were fewer than 200. Overall, he was, and should have been, very happy with the result. Like you, I am quite sure that Jon was quite happy and probably pretty ecstatic with the results that he got for his books. For him, being a comic book historian and caretaker of his books for all those long years,I believe it was never so much about the money for him, and really more for his love of the books and passing them onto the next generation of collectors. I think letting them all go in one shot was a lot less painful for him, as opposed to dragging them out over an extended period of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bronty said: Realistically big HA orders are probably going to get a bit of preferential treatment. Say 5000 x 100 = 500,000 in fees? Are you going to work on that 500k order from a closely connected company, or work on Joe Schmucklack’s 9.4 Avengers 398? Unless they also got a huge bulk discount on the pressing and grading fees, it should definitely work out to a whole lot more than this by a long shot. Especially since I don't think a single one of these books posted so far would qualify for the cheapo Standard tier of valuation under $1K. The only thing I am more concerned with is the newbies that they got operating the steamrollers at CCS, considering how fast they are going to have to go in order to squeeze these books through in time for their June Signature Auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 50 minutes ago, innocuous said: No time wasted getting these up. The Phantom Lady was graded last week. Tell me about it. My books are sitting on Scheduled for Grading going on three weeks. comicjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 8 minutes ago, lou_fine said: The only thing I am more concerned with is the newbies that they got operating the steamrollers at CCS, considering how fast they are going to have to go in order to squeeze these books through in time for their June Signature Auction. I would be surprised if they put all 5,000 books up in one auction. That would not be how I would do it if I were the seller. ChillMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 29 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Unless they also got a huge bulk discount on the pressing and grading fees, it should definitely work out to a whole lot more than this by a long shot. Especially since I don't think a single one of these books posted so far would qualify for the cheapo Standard tier of valuation under $1K. The only thing I am more concerned with is the newbies that they got operating the steamrollers at CCS, considering how fast they are going to have to go in order to squeeze these books through in time for their June Signature Auction. Exactly .. 500k is conservative. Totally agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bronty said: Realistically big HA orders are probably going to get a bit of preferential treatment. Say 5000 x 100 = 500,000 in fees? Are you going to work on that 500k order from a closely connected company, or work on Joe Schmucklack’s 9.4 Avengers 398? This is a brand new pedigree, a large amount of business from one of their biggest customers and a huge event for the hobby, This is going to get special treatment and I won't complain. Edited April 29, 2021 by adamstrange greggy, Badger and vheflin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, adamstrange said: This is a brand new pedigree, a large amount of business from one of their biggest customers and a huge event for the hobby, This is going to get special treatment and I won't complain. Well put! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Scrooge Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, adamstrange said: This is going to get special treatment and I won't complain. In other words, you have nothing waiting to be graded sfcityduck, goldust40, thunsicker and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
circumstances Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 2 hours ago, Funnybooks said: They were reholdered every 7 years in the vacuum of space so am i! comicjack 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linmoth Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 What would you expect. It’s like having a restaurant that you frequent and spend a lot of money at that you expect to have special seating when you arrive! Just because you decide to show up with a crowd does that make things any different. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crowzilla Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 Cap 1 is only a 3.5? This collection stinks. Sarg, Larryw7, Cat-Man_America and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linmoth Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Glad the early books aren’t that highly graded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 I didn't realize that Cap 46 and 74 were the same price in the guide now. So what brings more, 2nd highest graded 46, or the same grade (but highest by a longshot) 74? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 4/28/2021 at 8:45 AM, adamstrange said: Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. Thanks. But what about books that are not pedigrees? Does writing on the cover then impact the grade in a negative way? It seems rather arbitrary. Personally, I'd rather have a 7.5 book with no writing than a 9.2 book with writing, but to each his own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarg Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 3 hours ago, innocuous said: No time wasted getting these up. The Phantom Lady was graded last week. https://www.cgccomics.com/certlookup/1973736014/ I see they're still mis-crediting Phantom Lady 17's cover to Baker, even though it looks nothing like he ever drew. MBFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowzilla Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, szav said: If this is one continuous OO collection wonder what the story is as to why this book stands out as a beater... although I can’t see the picture that well on my phone to see what the defects are. Seems odd. we were told earlier that the collection has some books going back to the late 30s, but that generally the higher/highest grades are the later years. Makes sense to me. szucchini 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, Sarg said: Thanks. But what about books that are not pedigrees? Does writing on the cover then impact the grade in a negative way? It seems rather arbitrary. Distributor codes and names are treated the same on pedigree & non-pedigree books. 44 minutes ago, Sarg said: Personally, I'd rather have a 7.5 book with no writing than a 9.2 book with writing, but to each his own. As it is, there might be many copies of higher grade than the 7.5 making it much cheaper to buy than if the grading system penalized writing more heavily. So, it's a win for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MasterChief Posted April 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2021 (edited) On 4/28/2021 at 3:45 AM, adamstrange said: On 4/28/2021 at 3:27 AM, Sarg said: I've never understood why writing on the cover is not considered a more prominent defect. How can a book with writing grade at 9.6? Distributor marks have generally been considered a minor defect for GA comics going back decades. They are the primary method for confirming many pedigrees and are often prized rather than reviled by high end GA collectors. My interest in the work done on the Catman Comics #28 led me to flip for the grader notes. While I don't think it's appropriate that I post the entirety of the notes, I will mention that CGC is calling the distributor marking "pedigree coding." Edited April 30, 2021 by MasterChief Badger, PedigreeMan, GreatCaesarsGhost and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...