comicnoir Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, szav said: Wonder if that impacts how the PL17 CGC 4.5 that comes up a bit later and is sitting at 15k already will do. Since I have a 4.5, I will say yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, szav said: Ahem... I could not have been more wrong! Mea cupla! In my defense, it's hard to predict crazy. Point Five and tth2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
october Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Hope my ignorance pushes up the value of the PL 17 I may sell after this. szucchini, jimjum12 and lou_fine 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfcityduck Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, szav said: I dunno, casual first glance I see about a 100% pedigree premium on these. Maybe that makes it easier for people to dismiss these sales as outliers and we won’t see much of a general run up in GA. I think people already tend to dismiss Church copy sales records when pricing other copies in whatever grade. Agreed. The real Promise backstory is worth a big premium, and there's no doubt in my mind that big bidders know it. I also think today was a day that spreads on GA became more like the spread on post-Bronze comics. Right now sold prices for a Predator 1 on eBay have a price spread from $1000+ for a 9.8 on the high end to a mere $10 for a decent looking VFish raw copy. This auction is a fervor for "highest graded" copies which are fresh to the market and from what will be a legendary pedigree. Sure there will be dealers that will reprice a bunch of comics upward, but I'm not sure that these results will actually have a long term impact on low grade copies in many of the titles which are now hitting hitting astronomical heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, sfcityduck said: Agreed. The real Promise backstory is worth a big premium, and there's no doubt in my mind that big bidders know it. I also think today was a day that spreads on GA became more like the spread on post-Bronze comics. Right now sold prices for a Predator 1 on eBay have a price spread from $1000+ for a 9.8 on the high end to a mere $10 for a decent looking VFish raw copy. This auction is a fervor for "highest graded" copies which are fresh to the market and from what will be a legendary pedigree. Sure there will be dealers that will reprice a bunch of comics upward, but I'm not sure that these results will actually have a long term impact on low grade copies in many of the titles which are now hitting hitting astronomical heights. ... and like you pointed out, the backstory is likely true and not just hype. IF this type of hoarde surfaces again ... most of us will likely be gone. It really is quite the spectacle ... like fireworks over the Statue of Liberty. GOD BLESS.... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Watching that PL17 clean the clocks of all the previous lots was like fireworks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter G Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Yes, totally surprised at what some of these mid-run non classic cover Cap and Joker 'Tec books managed to run up to. Makes me wonder if the AA 61 with the all-time classic Solomon Grundy cover would have gone higher than its final $138K price point since it was only the second lot in the auction and most likely before bidders knew how much they would have to up their game in order to win some of these Promise Collection books later on? Looking at some of these results so far, from my own personal POV, I would say the winner of the AA 61 got themselves a relative steal in comparison. Yup, I agree. You put that book up again today and it’s a $250,000-$300,000 book 🤨 lou_fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, vheflin said: The outsize result for PL14 seems odd. Wasn't that simply because Brian said that was his favorite PL cover even though others tend to prefer PL 17? I will definitely say that Brian seems to be a lot more enthusiastic and seems to be more creative and patient at pulling in higher bids for the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 Just now, lou_fine said: Wasn't that simply because Brian said that was his favorite PL cover even though others tend to prefer PL 17? I will definitely say that Brian seems to be a lot more enthusiastic and seems to be more creative and patient at pulling in higher bids for the books. Brian said the PL16 was his favorite cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, lou_fine said: Wasn't that simply because Brian said that was his favorite PL cover even though others tend to prefer PL 17? I will definitely say that Brian seems to be a lot more enthusiastic and seems to be more creative and patient at pulling in higher bids for the books. ... he's being paid handsomely ... GOD BLESS ... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTD Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 I would gladly have pitched in 5K with 20 to 30 others just to own a piece of one of these keys…in 10 years you may net a 200% ROI…we should have organized it and passed it around every quarter or so… jimjum12 and D84 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post buttock Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 29 minutes ago, october said: In my defense, it's hard to predict crazy. I learned that from my ex. adamstrange, batman_fan, Point Five and 4 others 1 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, comicnoir said: Brian said the PL16 was his favorite cover. Well, my bad then although I clearly do like his choice with respect to what must be one of the all-time classic lingerie cover out there. I remember Mark Wilson offering me a HG copy of PL 16 way back in the day for around $800 and I just couldn't bring myself to say YES knowing his reputation by then, even though he had assured me over and over again that he had done absolutely nothing at all to this particular book. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post batman_fan Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, lou_fine said: Have you already used up your first set of Depends on just the first Promise Collection book? If so, I hope you brought a flatbed load of them then in order to meet your needs. I am watching the auction naked in the backyard so my green is getting fertilized ThothAmon, Larryw7, jimjum12 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 minute ago, lou_fine said: Well, my bad then although I clearly do like his choice with respect to what must be one of the all-time classic lingerie cover out there. I remember Mark Wilson offering me a HG copy of PL 16 way back in the day for around $800 and I just couldn't bring myself to say YES knowing his reputation by then, even though he had assured me over and over again that he had done absolutely nothing at all to this particular book. My copy is a slabbed 7.0, except the label says PL18. I guess I should reholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou_fine Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, comicnoir said: My copy is a slabbed 7.0, except the label says PL18. I guess I should reholder. Yes indeed, ask them to change the label to a PL 17 for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lou_fine Posted June 18, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 18, 2021 Well, they just finished the Subby run and looks like this classic bondage/snake cover issue here outperformed all of the other issues by a wide margin at just over $50K, and from my own personal point of view, long time coming and much deserved since most of the focus has tended to been on Subby 11: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/sub-mariner-comics-13-the-promise-collection-pedigree-timely-1944-cgc-nm-96-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7244-93153.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 jimjum12, szucchini, ThothAmon and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry JSA Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 1 hour ago, mstrange said: Cap#74 $204,000 w/BP . I tapped out at $120,000 and I thought I was crazy. Someone really wanted that book. Don’t feel bad, I tapped out on the Flash Comics #92 after $7000 and thought I was crazy. It ended up going for $25,200 w/ BP. Someone wanted that book more than I did for sure. jimjum12 and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
comicnoir Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, lou_fine said: Well, they just finished the Subby run and looks like this classic bondage/snake cover issue here outperformed all of the other issues by a wide margin at just over $50K, and from my own personal point of view, long time coming and much deserved since most of the focus has tended to been on Subby 11: https://comics.ha.com/itm/golden-age-1938-1955-/superhero/sub-mariner-comics-13-the-promise-collection-pedigree-timely-1944-cgc-nm-96-off-white-to-white-pages/a/7244-93153.s?ic16=ViewItem-BrowseTabs-Auction-Archive-ThisAuction-120115 I hear ya. Best cover of the run. I get offers on mine through Heritage, and I expect more now. lou_fine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjum12 Posted June 18, 2021 Share Posted June 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, comicnoir said: I hear ya. Best cover of the run. I get offers on mine through Heritage, and I expect more now. I owned a copy ... it's a book you usually only get to own once ... GOD BLESS... -jimbo(a friend of jesus) comicnoir 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
