bpc3qh Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 They're a big name in sports cards, and are looking to hire comics people. Will be interesting to see if they can claw ground away from HA/CL/CC. Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bronty Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 They are starting with video games too. Will be interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vheflin Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 GA vs. HA Microchip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmehdy Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 (edited) WOW....some great material... BATs #1 8.0 looks super..they certainly are a big player...rates both seller and buyer fees....? Edited July 22, 2021 by Mmehdy Chicago Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 I just hope they don't use CC's website developer. lou_fine, Courageous Cat, Larryw7 and 8 others 2 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 4:32 PM, Bronty said: They are starting with video games too. Will be interesting No surprise--their investors are the new owners of WATA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpc3qh Posted July 23, 2021 Author Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:38 PM, tth2 said: I just hope they don't use CC's website developer. The website they currently use had a lot of issues during the boom, but has been getting better. I think it'd be fine for comics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:41 PM, Chicago Boy said: No surprise--their investors are the new owners of WATA Oh I know. It’s all pretty incestuous at the moment. Or at least interconnected . Chicago Boy and aardvark88 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Funnybooks Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:38 PM, tth2 said: I just hope they don't use CC's website developer. They hired C-Links developer so no worries... Point Five, buttock, rjpb and 13 others 2 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat-Man_America Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle than has been discussed thus far. They're promising a lot, including catalog development and promotional advertising. If they have that level of reach the competition could prove interesting over time especially if they're offering perks behind the scenes to build competitive auctions of big ticket books. But they'll have to prove they can swim with the big boys first... If they can do that, they might be able to take a chunk of the market if their hammer prices prove competitive. I doubt that the other majors (HA/CC/CL) are that concerned at present or will worry unless Goldin's footprint gets big quickly via pulling down top auction sales numbers and a lot will depend on whether their terms are more favorable than those offered by others. The chum's in the water, let the games begin! Edited July 23, 2021 by Cat-Man_America aardvark88 and Chicago Boy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 9:34 PM, Cat-Man_America said: I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle than has been discussed thus far. They're promising a lot, including catalog development and promotional advertising. If they have that level of reach the competition could prove interesting over time especially if they're offering perks behind the scenes to build competitive auctions of big ticket books. But they'll have to prove they can swim with the big boys first... If they can do that, they might be able to take a chunk of the market if their hammer prices prove competitive. I doubt that the other majors (HA/CC/CL) are that concerned at present or will worry unless Goldin's footprint gets big quickly via pulling down top auction sales numbers and a lot will depend on whether their terms are more favorable than those offered by others. The chum's in the water, let the games begin! Larryw7 and Cat-Man_America 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Boy Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/22/2021 at 8:34 PM, Cat-Man_America said: I'm looking at this from a slightly different angle than has been discussed thus far. They're promising a lot, including catalog development and promotional advertising. If they have that level of reach the competition could prove interesting over time especially if they're offering perks behind the scenes to build competitive auctions of big ticket books. But they'll have to prove they can swim with the big boys first... If they can do that, they might be able to take a chunk of the market if their hammer prices prove competitive. I doubt that the other majors (HA/CC/CL) are that concerned at present or will worry unless Goldin's footprint gets big quickly via pulling down top auction sales numbers and a lot will depend on whether their terms are more favorable than those offered by others. The chum's in the water, let the games begin! Goldin's videos are already better than Zurzulo's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw-Man Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 who is zurzulo? woowoo, Larryw7 and Moondog 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tth2 Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 What kind of terms are they offering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 With HA flopping their giant hog all over the place with the Promise collection it might be an opportunity for another entity to get into the biz. Some consigners will be looking for alternatives to not have to compete with the Promise books, and some people will be looking for a place to liquidate books to pay for Promise buys. That being said, it seems like the Promise collection has just made HA even stronger as you look at what CC is offering and "meh" seems generous. Chicago Boy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tth2 Posted July 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 10:26 PM, buttock said: Some consigners will be looking for alternatives to not have to compete with the Promise books I don't think that's the right mindset in the current market. You want to show your wares where they'll be seen by the most people, and that's an auction with lots of Promise books. Maybe in the old days you'd be worried about books in the same auction cannibalizing each other because there's only a finite amount of money available for each auction, but that's not a concern when there are infinite funds. greggy, lou_fine, Bronty and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 ^ so true. Its been proven time and time again. Lots of material at once doesn't cannibalize; it adds a premium. Jginsberg79, tth2 and aardvark88 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funnybooks Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 10:35 AM, tth2 said: I don't think that's the right mindset in the current market. You want to show your wares where they'll be seen by the most people, and that's an auction with lots of Promise books. Maybe in the old days you'd be worried about books in the same auction cannibalizing each other because there's only a finite amount of money available for each auction, but that's not a concern when there are infinite funds. 100% agreed. Conventional wisdom with any auction as a consignor is to ride the wave of excitement whale type pieces bring to a particular auction...whether it's your own or some other consigner. The excitement that is generated with whale type consignments will usually garner much more attention and realize greater prices for all quality items in the same auction. tth2 and lou_fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buttock Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 On 7/23/2021 at 8:35 AM, tth2 said: I don't think that's the right mindset in the current market. You want to show your wares where they'll be seen by the most people, and that's an auction with lots of Promise books. Maybe in the old days you'd be worried about books in the same auction cannibalizing each other because there's only a finite amount of money available for each auction, but that's not a concern when there are infinite funds. Yeah, I'm kinda thinking out loud, but I qualified by pointing out that some other auction houses are suffering. I think if anything people will send more to HA to sell to pay for promise books to skirt taxes. aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...