815K1 Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 (edited) Gday Mates, Ok check my previous post So I found immacuclean it’s sold in bottles you buy from immaculate comics. The post has a YouTube video they use. Anyways im curious as to what is in it. I got this from a reddit thread. Read my post in my other post for immulate comics YouTube video using it. Also I mentioned using salicylic acid do you think that’s what it could be or something similar? It has to be water based whatever it is???? Thanks Edited December 5, 2021 by 815K1 The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Topnotchman Posted December 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 5, 2021 A few months ago friend of mine asked for my opinion on this guys techniques and cleaner. I kept myself entertained for hours watching multiple videos. My conclusion is this guy is a complete quack. He was unable to provide any close up after pictures of cleaned books. He’s just pushing his cleaning supplies and pressing boards as a side hustle. His techniques to me are barbaric and dangerous to a book causing irreversible damage. I found nothing of value. RockMyAmadeus, greggy, Larryw7 and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 I don't submit books with water stains, problem solved with wet cleaning haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 I was looking at immacuclean too, but his YouTube videos are very suspect when it comes to wet cleaning. All he shows is the beginning soaking which looks like it’s doing more damage and then never the finished product. I want to work my way up to cleaning the water/liquid stain in my X-Men 1 to save the pages from becoming brittle. Is a water bath with heat lamp and press the way to go or a humidity chamber? Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted76 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 @Disco Stu Massive staining on that book would make it an ideal candidate for a bath I'd hazard. But wowzers! Do not attempt that yourself, send that to to a pro and be prepared for 1) risk of ruin 2) a decent sized bill. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 From what I've read, Immacuclean is a 1:1.5 mixture of 90%+ IPA and 3% H2O2. I've used that solution to wipe down book and it is pretty good about removing grime. You have to be careful and use it sparingly or you could remove color. After you're done with it you have to press the book. 815K1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Avi Posted December 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 9, 2021 (edited) On 12/9/2021 at 8:18 AM, Stronguy said: From what I've read, Immacuclean is a 1:1.5 mixture of 90%+ IPA and 3% H2O2. I've used that solution to wipe down book and it is pretty good about removing grime. You have to be careful and use it sparingly or you could remove color. After you're done with it you have to press the book. Crappy beer to clean comic books! The hipsters rejoice. Edited December 9, 2021 by Avi theCapraAegagrus, Mystafo, buttock and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peted76 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Perfect job! Edited December 10, 2021 by peted76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 2:18 AM, Stronguy said: From what I've read, Immacuclean is a 1:1.5 mixture of 90%+ IPA and 3% H2O2. I've used that solution to wipe down book and it is pretty good about removing grime. You have to be careful and use it sparingly or you could remove color. After you're done with it you have to press the book. So then he’s selling alcohol. He would need a liquor license to sell it? What if I ate/drank immacuclean would I be poisoned? So if I go to the doctors and they say what did you take I’m gonna say immacuclean… so wouldn’t the label have to disclose what chemicals are in it for it to be sold as a good for cleaning? sounds like this guys got a law suit waiting to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyonder123 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 I've seen a good lot of this guys videos. And from what I've seen, he does show before and after photos. I've definitely not seen him "damage" books. He seems to generally do a pretty good job. 815K1 and B2D327 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin76 Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 7:49 PM, 815K1 said: So then he’s selling alcohol. He would need a liquor license to sell it? What if I ate/drank immacuclean would I be poisoned? So if I go to the doctors and they say what did you take I’m gonna say immacuclean… so wouldn’t the label have to disclose what chemicals are in it for it to be sold as a good for cleaning? sounds like this guys got a law suit waiting to happen. Having worked in printing with all kinds of chemicals from blanket wash to different etch solutions, you'd be amazed at what people have tried to drink over the years, so much so OSHA requires printing plants to have every bottle label of what's in it as well has a hazard report on hand on for every chemical in the building Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 6:49 PM, 815K1 said: So then he’s selling alcohol. He would need a liquor license to sell it? What if I ate/drank immacuclean would I be poisoned? So if I go to the doctors and they say what did you take I’m gonna say immacuclean… so wouldn’t the label have to disclose what chemicals are in it for it to be sold as a good for cleaning? sounds like this guys got a law suit waiting to happen. IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol H2O2 = Hydrogen Peroxide 815K1, greggy, theCapraAegagrus and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/15/2021 at 12:32 PM, Stronguy said: IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol H2O2 = Hydrogen Peroxide On 12/15/2021 at 12:32 PM, Stronguy said: IPA = Isopropyl Alcohol H2O2 = Hydrogen Peroxide I have seen serious hydrogen peroxide burns. I burnt myself once using it to clean a wound. Serious. aardvark88 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted December 19, 2021 Author Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 2:18 AM, Stronguy said: From what I've read, Immacuclean is a 1:1.5 mixture of 90%+ IPA and 3% H2O2. I've used that solution to wipe down book and it is pretty good about removing grime. You have to be careful and use it sparingly or you could remove color. After you're done with it you have to press the book. I used the isopropyl and salicylic acid to remove some sticky tape goo. It was good. Didn’t do much besides ripples if used too much, don’t think it took off colour. Will try this mix with peroxide next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bruce Banner Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 I've used Immacuclean at times and as Rick points out in his videos, there can be color loss. He suggests to test a cover with a q-tip first to see if you experience color loss before proceeding. Reds and yellows most likely to be impacted. It can produce good results, especially on whites and back covers, but you need to learn how to use it using practice books. Tide lines can be a problem and have to learn how to buff those out. It may not be for everyone, but it can work if you now how to work with it ... like every other cleaning process. Here's an example of side-by-side of untouched (left) and Immacuclean + H202 / UVA light treatment on an Avengers 58. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stronguy Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 12/19/2021 at 12:37 AM, 815K1 said: I have seen serious hydrogen peroxide burns. I burnt myself once using it to clean a wound. Serious. 3% HOOH will not burn you but if you go with higher concentrations you're asking for trouble on bare skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raffodk Posted January 13, 2022 Share Posted January 13, 2022 (edited) Great information Edited January 13, 2022 by Raffodk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
815K1 Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 On 1/9/2022 at 9:04 AM, Dr. Bruce Banner said: H202 / UVA light Why UV A I would have thought UV B would make things whiter as that’s what people use on their skin? I try using products people use on their skin I am yet to use teeth whitener but it’s on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) On 12/9/2021 at 8:18 AM, Stronguy said: From what I've read, Immacuclean is a 1:1.5 mixture of 90%+ IPA and 3% H2O2. I've used that solution to wipe down book and it is pretty good about removing grime. You have to be careful and use it sparingly or you could remove color. After you're done with it you have to press the book. The MSDS from Immaculate Comics states that ImmacuClean consists of the following: 65-69% - 2-[bis(2-hydroxyethyl)amino]ethanol,2-butoxyethyl dihydrogen phosphate 17-19% - Water 2-6% - Triethanolamine <1% - 2-Butoxyethanol I should note that this is for the concentrated solution, which is to be diluted in DI water before using. The instructions on the website call for diluting the concentrated solution in the amount of 3.5% to 7% solution to DI water. Edited January 25, 2022 by FFB Added the bit about diluting in water stormflora, 815K1 and Stronguy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...