Any pedigree experts out there? Adding a couple more... 1 1

[thewritestuff]

I bought this comic, and someone suggested that the "L" on the front cover could indicate a pedigree. This does look to be an old-school case going back about 15 or so years, so I guess it's possible that CGC didn't recognize it as such (if, in fact, it IS a pedigree).

I am pretty sure the Adventures into Darkness is a Bethlehem copy. Not sure about the Lucky Comics 2. Again, opinions welcome...

 

Thanks in advance.

Edited May 4, 2022 by thewritestuff

[Tsp99]

That "L" doesn't look like the handwriting we normally see on Larsons.

[Primetime]

On 5/3/2022 at 3:21 PM, Tsp99 said:

That "L" doesn't look like the handwriting we normally see on Larsons.

agreed

Edited May 3, 2022 by Primetime

[thewritestuff]

Thanks for the fast responses. I am sort of new to the world of pedigrees, but thought it would be cool if I inadvertently picked one up!

[adamstrange]

If you have an "L" distributor code, it is not a Larson.

Nice book, btw. 

[Robot Man]

Or maybe it belonged to Larry or Lana. Sorry not a Larson…

[lou_fine]

On 5/3/2022 at 5:45 PM, adamstrange said:

If you have an "L" distributor code, it is not a Larson.

Definitely not a Larson since there are no Sky Blazers books listed in the Larson List that was compiled by Joe Tricarichi.  

[Robot Man]

Didn’t the Detroit Trolly books have a “L” on the cover? From memory I don’t think this qualifys. I have a couple but they are not handy. 

[Primetime]

On 5/4/2022 at 8:13 AM, Robot Man said:

Didn’t the Detroit Trolly books have a “L” on the cover? From memory I don’t think this qualifys. I have a couple but they are not handy. 

yea, the Trolly books had L markings...

[MasterChief]

On 5/4/2022 at 6:28 AM, Primetime said:

On 5/4/2022 at 5:13 AM, Robot Man said:

Didn’t the Detroit Trolly books have a “L” on the cover? From memory I don’t think this qualifys. I have a couple but they are not handy. 

yea, the Trolly books had L markings...

Detroit Trolley Collection is my guess, too.

The "L" on the Sky Blazers #2 is characteristic of the cursive "L" found on the Trolley books.

However, the Sky Blazers was certified in August of 2003, which predates the announcement of the Trolley collection find by 20 months. Also, Marnin Rosenberg sold the books raw with a certificate of restoration evaluation by Susan Cicconi. He did not have the books graded by CGC.

That said, it's possible that this particular book found its way out of the original owner's assemblage before Marnin discovered the collection. I believe there were rumors that some books were separated from the collection before Marnin's involvement.

Below is a link to the Scoop article announcing the collection. It's about halfway down the webpage and titled "Golden Age Collection Discovered."

https://scoop.previewsworld.com/Search/Article?query=Golden Age Collection Discovered&page=6

[Robot Man]

On 5/4/2022 at 10:46 AM, MasterChief said:

Detroit Trolley Collection is my guess, too.

The "L" on the Sky Blazers #2 is characteristic of the cursive "L" found on the Trolley books.

However, the Sky Blazers was certified in August of 2003, which predates the announcement of the Trolley collection find by 20 months. Also, Marnin Rosenberg sold the books raw with a certificate of restoration evaluation by Susan Cicconi. He did not have the books graded by CGC.

That said, it's possible that this particular book found its way out of the original owner's assemblage before Marnin discovered the collection. I believe there were rumors that some books were separated from the collection before Marnin's involvement.

Below is a link to the Scoop article announcing the collection. It's about halfway down the webpage and titled "Golden Age Collection Discovered."

https://scoop.previewsworld.com/Search/Article?query=Golden Age Collection Discovered&page=6

The golden days of GA collections surfacing. Not only the Trolley collection but the Crippen announced the same week!

I will see if I can dig out my one or two Trolleys later to show the “L”

[Robot Man]

Here is a Detroit Trolley bought directly from the source.

[thewritestuff]

On 5/4/2022 at 1:46 PM, MasterChief said:

Detroit Trolley Collection is my guess, too.

The "L" on the Sky Blazers #2 is characteristic of the cursive "L" found on the Trolley books.

However, the Sky Blazers was certified in August of 2003, which predates the announcement of the Trolley collection find by 20 months. Also, Marnin Rosenberg sold the books raw with a certificate of restoration evaluation by Susan Cicconi. He did not have the books graded by CGC.

That said, it's possible that this particular book found its way out of the original owner's assemblage before Marnin discovered the collection. I believe there were rumors that some books were separated from the collection before Marnin's involvement.

Below is a link to the Scoop article announcing the collection. It's about halfway down the webpage and titled "Golden Age Collection Discovered."

https://scoop.previewsworld.com/Search/Article?query=Golden Age Collection Discovered&page=6

Thank you for the information!

[thewritestuff]

On 5/4/2022 at 6:52 PM, Robot Man said:

Here is a Detroit Trolley bought directly from the source.

Thanks for going through the trouble of digging that out. I'm no expert, but I think the two letters look to have been written by a different person?

[thewritestuff]

I added a couple more books to my original post. It's nice to have people take the time to respond, so thank you all!

[MasterChief]

On 5/3/2022 at 12:09 PM, thewritestuff said:

 

This book is from the Bethlehem pedigree. Stamp on back cover is a dead giveaway. https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/bethlehem/

[MasterChief]

On 5/4/2022 at 12:52 PM, Robot Man said:

Here is a Detroit Trolley bought directly from the source.

That's a ringer for a Trolley. Nice book.

[MasterChief]

On 5/4/2022 at 1:16 PM, thewritestuff said:

Thanks for going through the trouble of digging that out. I'm no expert, but I think the two letters look to have been written by a different person?

Here's a Trolley with the "L" that looks similar to yours. (Unfortunately, it's not my book )

 

[MasterChief]

On 5/4/2022 at 1:53 PM, MasterChief said:

On 5/3/2022 at 12:09 PM, thewritestuff said:

 

This book is from the Bethlehem pedigree. Stamp on back cover is a dead giveaway. https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/bethlehem/

Here's the Bethlehem copy of Adventures into Darkness #5.

It's properly designated as a Bethlehem. Back cover has the stamp, too.

How CGC missed the #6 as being from the pedigree is beyond me.

[thewritestuff]

On 5/4/2022 at 7:53 PM, MasterChief said:

This book is from the Bethlehem pedigree. Stamp on back cover is a dead giveaway. https://www.cgccomics.com/resources/pedigree/bethlehem/

Thank you. I suspected as much on this one, but it's nice to hear confirmation!