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[BoognishRises]

Any truth to Black Flag only selling the 2 new acetates at Boston to dealers? Multiple people are saying they are not available to the public and just dealers were able to grab them.

Edited August 12, 2022 by BoognishRises

[CJ Design]

Word is they have not been selling any bootlegs at Boston, and they are giving out free suckers at the table..WRONG INFO....

At least the sucker lollypop part is true...

Edited August 12, 2022 by CJ Design

[BoognishRises]

On 8/12/2022 at 5:07 PM, CJ Design said:

Word is they have not been selling any bootlegs at Boston, and they are giving out free suckers at the table...instead of having....

 

[Lebystander]

Lol so they were just like, " the public" ALL of these are going to the influences

[DrunkWooky]

On 8/12/2022 at 3:09 PM, BoognishRises said:

 

Wish this was a better shot of the Ghost Rider. That's the one where they're mashing up their IP. 

[BlowUpTheMoon]

[DrunkWooky]

https://claytoncrain.com/products/copy-of-deadpool-nerdy-thirty-1-clayton-crain-99-problems-variant

So it looks like they added a green and red gradient, a sombrero, confetti, and a catch phrase. 

[kav]

  put another acetate cover over the first acetate cover!!!

[do-boy99]

On 8/12/2022 at 3:41 PM, bc said:

Can you press an acetate cover? Asking for a friend....

-bc

Funny

[Bob Sacamano]

On 8/12/2022 at 4:07 PM, BoognishRises said:

Any truth to Black Flag only selling the 2 new acetates at Boston to dealers? Multiple people are saying they are not available to the public and just dealers were able to grab them.

I believe it.  That’s one way to not deal with it.

[OJ Pimpson]

On 8/12/2022 at 1:23 PM, ExNihilo said:

In all honesty, I feel bad for @CGC Mike for having to be the middle man.  @mnelsonCGC should really do a live AMA.  Someone at the top should be taking the heat, not Mike.  I highly doubt Mike's salary includes his current role in addition to any Public Relations responsibilities because CGC is getting blasted for this entire debacle.  Not just here, but in Facebook and Reddit groups.

[BoognishRises]

Clayton Crain being invovled from top to bottom is what has Marvel and CGC fine with this, and Black Flag gets to laugh all the way to the bank. Now they're slapping the general public in the face even harder by only selling the 2 new acetates to dealers/influencers in Boston. Lol!

[DrunkWooky]

On 8/12/2022 at 3:20 PM, Bob Sacamano said:

That’s one way to not deal with it.

Rope accomplices into your little copyright and trademark infringement scheme? It does create a sort of circle of trust I suppose. 

[Dave2739]

So besides all of the drama, my opinion is that Clayton dude's art is legit awful. I suggest keeping him away from comic books altogether.

[Atomic Ponkie]

On 8/12/2022 at 2:07 PM, BoognishRises said:

Any truth to Black Flag only selling the 2 new acetates at Boston to dealers? Multiple people are saying they are not available to the public and just dealers were able to grab them.

Those look terrible

[jjfversion1]

On 8/12/2022 at 2:19 PM, kav said:

  put another acetate cover over the first acetate cover!!!

Double covers do generate premiums.

[Atomic Ponkie]

On 8/12/2022 at 2:21 PM, Dave2739 said:

So besides all of the drama, my opinion is that Clayton dude's art is legit awful. I suggest keeping him away from comic books altogether.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Rob Liefelds art is better tbh 

[kav]

On 8/12/2022 at 2:21 PM, Dave2739 said:

So besides all of the drama, my opinion is that Clayton dude's art is legit awful. I suggest keeping him away from comic books altogether.

 

[onlyweaknesskryptonite]

On 8/12/2022 at 2:02 PM, Broke as a Joke said:

Forget acetate, I'm going to be adding some Reynolds Wrap onto a cover and get the Silver Foil designation.

Find a well known artist who uses skin.. 

[Prince Namor]

On 8/12/2022 at 4:30 PM, Skwerl said:

I have long suspected this. My grading is pretty solid. 9 times out of 10, CGC gives my book exactly what I was calling it. And I generally write off the hordes of "CGC robbed me!" crybabies as just sore losers with bad grading skills. The exception is what happens above 9.4 though. I never grade a raw book higher than 9.6 (for so many reasons). I send apparently flawless books in for blue labels that mostly come back 9.6 with occasionally a few 9.8s. I send apparently flawless books in for SS labels that mostly come back 9.8 with only a few 9.6s. I hate to admit it, but it's encouraged me to send more books in to CGC signings than I might otherwise.

I have had three possible theories here: A) This is just luck/coincidence, and possibly I just send more modern/newer/nicer books in for signings partly due to my personal critieria for what goes in for signings (often just cool covers that weren't as hard to find in the best possible shape). B) When a signed book goes to CCS, it gets special handling by pressers who have more experience, who can make sure that the cleaning/pressing doesn't mess with the signature, but who also might just do a better job than usual with the pressing. Or C) Certain types of super minor defects are forgiven to some extent when you have a book that has been, by definition, handled and written on.

But I suppose there might also be D) CGC gives bias to their more profitable submissions. After acetategate, it's like... all bets are off, you know?

AFTER acetategate?

Believe me, there are people who've done endless more research than this, and I can assure you, the inconsistency, and the 'Hmmmm....', and the 'what the....????' has been there for much longer than that. 

CGC submissions just keep going up...