Popular Post Jesse-Lee Posted January 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2023 With all of the facsimile editions that keep coming out, it got me wondering, "why aren't there comic remakes" for some of the classic books? Like, why doesn't DC release a "reprint" of Detective 27 for example that is a basically a panel-by-panel remake of the original, but using artists and art styles from today? I'd be much more interested in that than a straight up reprint facsimile. Would anyone else be intrigued, or is that a step too far? Iconic1s, MisterMR, mrlatko and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LowGradeBronze Posted January 23, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) I'm glad they don't and let's hope it stays that way. (No offense to anyone who'd like to see that. I just wouldn't buy into it in any way. Just like I don't watch any of the awful movies. I'm a sad old git, I know!) Edited January 23, 2023 by LowGradeBronze BA773, Brer247i, D84 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidpg Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I'd be interested, certainly. I also think that stories that happened in between issues of GA or SA (even BA) books would be a great idea. I kow they tried that with The X-Men in the 90s though it wasn't well done IIRC. I'd be down for this being well done. AndyFish and Jesse-Lee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 3:38 PM, Jesse-Lee said: With all of the facsimile editions that keep coming out, it got me wondering, "why aren't there comic remakes" for some of the classic books? Like, why doesn't DC release a "reprint" of Detective 27 for example that is a basically a panel-by-panel remake of the original, but using artists and art styles from today? I'd be much more interested in that than a straight up reprint facsimile. Would anyone else be intrigued, or is that a step too far? Funny you mention 'Tec 27... both because it has kind of been done and because the story is very, very short. But the point (for the big publishers) of reprinting popular issues is to make easy money without having to pay creators. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadroch Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 What big time artist is going to want to do a book that is nothing but swipes? Dr. Balls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesse-Lee Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 4:56 PM, Lazyboy said: Funny you mention 'Tec 27... both because it has kind of been done and because the story is very, very short. But the point (for the big publishers) of reprinting popular issues is to make easy money without having to pay creators. Oh yeah, I actually forgot about that issue! Yeah, that's a true point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jesse-Lee Posted January 23, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 23, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 5:06 PM, shadroch said: What big time artist is going to want to do a book that is nothing but swipes? Clayton Crain? mattn792, Off Panel, PeterPark and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juno Beach Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It's been done. Marvel did a Giant Size X-Men. oldmilwaukee6er and Ken Aldred 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 6:06 PM, Juno Beach said: It's been done. Marvel did a Giant Size X-Men. Fantasy Masterpieces also has a few "alternate art" splash-pages I believe, like FM#3 I know has different art than the original SS#3 splash-page. Juno Beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam T Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 The idea of a panel by panel remake just wouldn't work because the language of storytelling evolves. And that's a good thing. There would be concepts that it took the golden age writer/artist several panels and paragraphs to explain, that right now you can explain with a single wordless panel. Basically, if they maintained the panel layouts slavishly they'd also be stuck telling the story at a pace that's no longer enjoyable to readers. The idea is that they're have to update the structure of the story in order to modernize it. Think about the Avengers movie. It is a retelling of Avengers #1. Asgardian villain comes to Earth to sow dissent within the Avengers and turn them against each other. It worked in 1963 and, with updates, it also worked in 2012. Batman: Year One is a retelling of Batman's early story in a way that's updated. Also, publishers have actually done exactly what you're saying. I don't remember the name of it but when I was a kid Marvel put out an X-Men book that was issue by issue, modern retelling the first Uncanny X-Men issues. And I don't think it really worked all that well and no one seems to like those books today. Why don't they do remakes? Remakes are kinda most of what comics do. But the idea of a remake where you don't really change anything doesn't really work for the audience. Yorick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2D327 Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 It’s almost a good idea until one of the publishers lets politics get involved and turn a long term franchise with a loyal following into a horrible bastardization to destroy canon imo Juno Beach and Off Panel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonker Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/23/2023 at 4:38 PM, Jesse-Lee said: "why aren't there comic remakes" Wasn't that kind of what Marvel's Ultimate Universe was? Phicks, Namtak and MisterMR 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookery Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 9:14 AM, Sam T said: Why don't they do remakes? Remakes are kinda most of what comics do. Exactly. Pretty much all comics today are remakes. The Batman origin has been re-made many many times. Remakes, however, generally involve both fresh art and fresh dialogue or plotting. It's no different than movies. The only movie remake in history that I recall that did a shot-for-shot remake but with new actors (the equivalent, I think, of what the OP is suggesting) was the modern version of Psycho... and it was considered a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_BEYONDER Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 What I’d really like to see is comic books brought to life. Take ASM 121 & 122 and animate the actual panels. Would love to see Romita’s pencils come to life on the screen. Word for word. Panel to panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Aldred Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 7:11 PM, THE_BEYONDER said: What I’d really like to see is comic books brought to life. Take ASM 121 & 122 and animate the actual panels. Would love to see Romita’s pencils come to life on the screen. Word for word. Panel to panel. One step further would be that in virtual 3d. THE_BEYONDER 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzimodo Posted January 24, 2023 Share Posted January 24, 2023 IDW did a remake of GI Joe 21 (the famous silent issue) with different artists for each page, just like the Giant Size X-Men 1 remake mentioned previously. They're kind of neat as novelties, but I wouldn't want them to become a common thing. Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theCapraAegagrus Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 Most old comics are pretty bad, story-wise. I don't see it being worth the hassle. Larryw7 and justadude 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
serling1978 Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 2:30 PM, Ken Aldred said: One step further would be that in virtual 3d. I would prefer actors to come to my house and act out ASM 121 and 122. I'll use crayons to create the backgrounds on my walls. Ken Aldred 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPark Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/24/2023 at 9:14 AM, Sam T said: The idea of a panel by panel remake just wouldn't work because the language of storytelling evolves. And that's a good thing. There would be concepts that it took the golden age writer/artist several panels and paragraphs to explain, that right now you can explain with a single wordless panel. Basically, if they maintained the panel layouts slavishly they'd also be stuck telling the story at a pace that's no longer enjoyable to readers. The idea is that they're have to update the structure of the story in order to modernize it. Think about the Avengers movie. It is a retelling of Avengers #1. Asgardian villain comes to Earth to sow dissent within the Avengers and turn them against each other. It worked in 1963 and, with updates, it also worked in 2012. Batman: Year One is a retelling of Batman's early story in a way that's updated. Also, publishers have actually done exactly what you're saying. I don't remember the name of it but when I was a kid Marvel put out an X-Men book that was issue by issue, modern retelling the first Uncanny X-Men issues. And I don't think it really worked all that well and no one seems to like those books today. Why don't they do remakes? Remakes are kinda most of what comics do. But the idea of a remake where you don't really change anything doesn't really work for the audience. I remember when I first really started getting into comics before say, 1980 or 1970...I'm specifically thinking of the early ASM run, I was really into how the earlier comics had so many words and so many panels per page. There was actually something to read. I had been used to comics like Spawn where you read the thing in 3 or 4 minutes because there was so little going on. I think that aspect of the storytelling is not done anymore. It is refreshing to read...a magazine that respects your intelligence! Readcomix and Larryw7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazyboy Posted January 25, 2023 Share Posted January 25, 2023 On 1/25/2023 at 9:56 AM, PeterPark said: I remember when I first really started getting into comics before say, 1980 or 1970...I'm specifically thinking of the early ASM run, I was really into how the earlier comics had so many words and so many panels per page. There was actually something to read. I had been used to comics like Spawn where you read the thing in 3 or 4 minutes because there was so little going on. I think that aspect of the storytelling is not done anymore. It is refreshing to read...a magazine that respects your intelligence! Simply having more words does not make a comic better. The best comic writers are hardly stingy with their words, but they know how and when to use (and not use) them. Juno Beach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
