CGC Announces Price and Policy Changes 7 7

[Tec-Tac-Toe]

On 4/23/2023 at 7:09 PM, lou_fine said:

Although I would tend to agree with you here, I guess it should be pointed put that the grading and slabbing of comic books is still really more of a luxury or a discretionary expenditure, as opposed to an actual necessity.  

Compared that to a case lot of 12 cans of Campbell soup which used to cost only $5.99 a case when on sale a couple of short years ago, to what they now advertised for $16.99 for the exact same case of 12 tins of Campbell soup.  

Now, that's definitely an egregious and price gouging increase, although I guess Campbell soup is also not a technical or even tasty necessity either. 

Only if you like "soup" with your salt. The last can of Campbell soup I ate was in the 1980s, yes 1980s, and I still taste the salt from it.

[StillOnly25Cents]

On 4/23/2023 at 6:09 PM, lou_fine said:

Although I would tend to agree with you here, I guess it should be pointed put that the grading and slabbing of comic books is still really more of a luxury or a discretionary expenditure, as opposed to an actual necessity.  

Compared that to a case lot of 12 cans of Campbell soup which used to cost only $5.99 a case when on sale a couple of short years ago, to what they now advertised for $16.99 for the exact same case of 12 tins of Campbell soup.  

Now, that's definitely an egregious and price gouging increase, although I guess Campbell soup is also not a technical or even tasty necessity either. 

waiter there’s a hair in my soup

CGC there’s a hair in my slab

 

betting the later phrase is more common

[Gaard]

re: price increase

I get it. Their profit margin has been going down ... most likely due to the massive amounts of MEs being submitted. So instead of investing in their lousy QC department (thereby vastly reducing the ME submissions), they just raise their prices instead. So, we still get a lousy QC (which has been lousy for YEARS) to go along with higher prices - and it's kind of obvious that they're going to drastically reduce what falls into the category of an ME (heck, they already started with this 14 day BS). Instead of just...wait for it...FIXING THE DANG PROBLEM, they keep the status quo but charge more for it.

 

The price increase would've been so much easier to swallow if it was to offset the cost of improving their QC department. But seriously, given these guys' track record, is anyone surprised by this, yet another, bad decision?

[D2]

Is this the forum chat where everyone gets together and collectively complains about the same old thing? 

Is this the forum chat CGC was actively anticipating being started because they know the same old game where a collective minority of people will whine and moan about a price increase?

I just want to make sure I’m in the right place.

Judging by the dollar, 2 dollar, or 3 dollar increases, it looks like it. 

If you guys are complaining about these price increases, look around. There are far worse things happening around you.

But more likely, this is the forum chat where the same people that don’t submit books to CGC anymore, or never did… need a place in the world where they aren’t obviously irrelevant and outdated. 

Yep, this is the right place. 

[D2]

And by the way, while all of you are complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how poor CGC is…

People work there. This is peoples’ lives and livelihoods. 

Some people take pride working there, and are happy to be working somewhere they enjoy. 

For all the shotty work they do, they still provide a desired service in a hobby. 

With the, apparent, vocal personalities on here, I would love to see how well they would handle someone coming to their work and criticize them. 

Either not very well, or they would shut up and sit down, which is interesting based on how I see some of the attitudes on here. 

[Prince Namor]

On 4/28/2023 at 8:40 AM, D2 said:

And by the way, while all of you are complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how poor CGC is…

People work there. This is peoples’ lives and livelihoods. 

Some people take pride working there, and are happy to be working somewhere they enjoy. 

For all the shotty work they do, they still provide a desired service in a hobby. 

With the, apparent, vocal personalities on here, I would love to see how well they would handle someone coming to their work and criticize them. 

Either not very well, or they would shut up and sit down, which is interesting based on how I see some of the attitudes on here. 

And by the way, with your complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how bad it is to be upset over the rising prices....

Dealers buy from CGC, and have supported them for years. This is their job, their life, their livelihoods. 

Some dealers take pride in working with CGC, and happy to be in business with a company they enjoy. 

For all the desired business they give CGC, the quality of service has continued to go downhill, while the COST has gone UP. 

With your apparent, vocal personality here, I would love to see how well you'd accept it if your were submitting 1000 books a year for the past 20 years, only to AGAIN see them raise the price on you, give you even less incentives and fall behind even more at quality control than ever before. 

If you submit almost exclusively pre-1975 books, you're going to be spending $2000 more a year for the service, MINIMUM (based on 1000 books). 

That DIRECTLY impacts the life and livelihood of dealers who's sole income is off of comic book sales. 

You're pointing the finger at THEM.

Of course they're vocal about it. 

 

None of what is being said about CGC is directed at the PEOPLE that work there.

It's directed at the company. 

Big difference. 

[Jeffro.]

On 4/28/2023 at 8:40 AM, D2 said:

And by the way, while all of you are complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how poor CGC is…

People work there. This is peoples’ lives and livelihoods. 

Some people take pride working there, and are happy to be working somewhere they enjoy. 

For all the shotty work they do, they still provide a desired service in a hobby. 

With the, apparent, vocal personalities on here, I would love to see how well they would handle someone coming to their work and criticize them. 

Either not very well, or they would shut up and sit down, which is interesting based on how I see some of the attitudes on here. 

Be careful coming down off that high horse there, chief. It's a steep drop.

[Nazirite]

On 4/28/2023 at 8:36 AM, D2 said:

need a place in the world where they aren’t obviously irrelevant and outdated. 

[D2]

Yeah, I ruffled feathers.

Good on you guys.

You fight in a vacuum where CGC can't say anything back about your constant complaining. 

King of the hills.

[Number 6]

[Jeffro.]

I'm sure D2 will sleep well tonight knowing that he defended the honor of CGC. Kudos to you, my friend! Kudos! We are all duly and rightly chastised and ashamed! Woe be to those who will not drink heartily from the CGC trough!! Keep working at it Don Quixote. Those windmills won't tilt at themselves.

[mattn792]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:57 PM, D2 said:

Yeah, I ruffled feathers.

Good on you guys.

You fight in a vacuum where CGC can't say anything back about your constant complaining. 

King of the hills.

Ever heard of @CGC Mike?

[jcjames]

On 4/24/2023 at 12:54 AM, StillOnly25Cents said:

waiter there’s a hair in my soup 

CGC there’s a hair in my slab

 

"Well, there are no prizes or anything."

 

Edited April 28, 2023 by jcjames

[Gaard]

[COI]

On 4/28/2023 at 8:40 AM, D2 said:

And by the way, while all of you are complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how poor CGC is…

People work there. This is peoples’ lives and livelihoods. 

Some people take pride working there, and are happy to be working somewhere they enjoy. 

For all the shotty work they do, they still provide a desired service in a hobby. 

With the, apparent, vocal personalities on here, I would love to see how well they would handle someone coming to their work and criticize them. 

Either not very well, or they would shut up and sit down, which is interesting based on how I see some of the attitudes on here. 

[CGC Mike]

On 4/28/2023 at 4:40 PM, mattn792 said:

On 4/28/2023 at 1:57 PM, D2 said:

Yeah, I ruffled feathers.

Good on you guys.

You fight in a vacuum where CGC can't say anything back about your constant complaining. 

King of the hills.

Ever heard of @CGC Mike?

Has anyone heard of CGC Mike complaining about criticism of CGC on the forum?  

[Dr. Balls]

On 4/28/2023 at 6:36 AM, D2 said:

Is this the forum chat where everyone gets together and collectively complains about the same old thing? 

Is this the forum chat CGC was actively anticipating being started because they know the same old game where a collective minority of people will whine and moan about a price increase?

I just want to make sure I’m in the right place.

Judging by the dollar, 2 dollar, or 3 dollar increases, it looks like it. 

If you guys are complaining about these price increases, look around. There are far worse things happening around you.

But more likely, this is the forum chat where the same people that don’t submit books to CGC anymore, or never did… need a place in the world where they aren’t obviously irrelevant and outdated. 

Yep, this is the right place. 

I’ve yet to see a price increase in the past three years that is reflective of better quality, service or experience. CGC or otherwise - and I’ve seen a lot of price increases.

Edited April 28, 2023 by Dr. Balls

[mattn792]

On 4/28/2023 at 6:41 PM, CGC Mike said:

Has anyone heard of CGC Mike complaining about criticism of CGC on the forum?  

Never, but saying CGC can’t respond is disingenuous.  You run a good ship, Mike.

[october]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:57 PM, D2 said:

Yeah, I ruffled feathers.

Good on you guys.

You fight in a vacuum where CGC can't say anything back about your constant complaining. 

King of the hills.

What's worse than complaining into the void?

Stanning into the void for a giant multinational conglomerate. Congrats. Way to fight the good fight!

Edited April 29, 2023 by october

[D2]

On 4/28/2023 at 12:27 PM, Prince Namor said:

And by the way, with your complaining, I do suggest you take a moment to realize that with all of your smack talk about how bad it is to be upset over the rising prices....

Dealers buy from CGC, and have supported them for years. This is their job, their life, their livelihoods. 

Some dealers take pride in working with CGC, and happy to be in business with a company they enjoy. 

For all the desired business they give CGC, the quality of service has continued to go downhill, while the COST has gone UP. 

With your apparent, vocal personality here, I would love to see how well you'd accept it if your were submitting 1000 books a year for the past 20 years, only to AGAIN see them raise the price on you, give you even less incentives and fall behind even more at quality control than ever before. 

If you submit almost exclusively pre-1975 books, you're going to be spending $2000 more a year for the service, MINIMUM (based on 1000 books). 

That DIRECTLY impacts the life and livelihood of dealers who's sole income is off of comic book sales. 

You're pointing the finger at THEM.

Of course they're vocal about it. 

 

None of what is being said about CGC is directed at the PEOPLE that work there.

It's directed at the company. 

Big difference. 

 

Dealers and businesses pass off price increases to their customers. As do all intelligent businesses. 
 

On 4/28/2023 at 3:50 PM, Jeffro. said:

I'm sure D2 will sleep well tonight knowing that he defended the honor of CGC. Kudos to you, my friend! Kudos! We are all duly and rightly chastised and ashamed! Woe be to those who will not drink heartily from the CGC trough!! Keep working at it Don Quixote. Those windmills won't tilt at themselves.

I sleep like a King. 
 

On 4/28/2023 at 4:40 PM, mattn792 said:

Ever heard of @CGC Mike?

 

Love that guy. Can’t speak more highly of him. 
 

On 4/28/2023 at 7:54 PM, Dr. Balls said:

I’ve yet to see a price increase in the past three years that is reflective of better quality, service or experience. CGC or otherwise - and I’ve seen a lot of price increases.

Dr. Balls, no shots at you, spoken genuinely, but you don’t know if that’s true. 

The simple fact can be that the supply for CGC’s product continues to explode, and they are trying to keep things affordable to their customer. You don’t know. 

No one knows. Maybe in order to maintain this invisible benchmark people expect, they would have to build another 10 billion dollar facility and increase prices by 85%. None of us know. 

But what we do know is, no one does it better than CGC at the price that they offer, and that’s a fact. 
 

On 4/28/2023 at 9:07 PM, october said:

What's worse than complaining into the void?

Stanning into the void for a giant multinational conglomerate. Congrats. Way to fight the good fight!

 

This isn’t a fight. This was my perspective and subsequent comments on behaviours that I see.

People here think they’ve been around so long that they are valid and entitled to their unwavering opinions, saying whatever they believe because they’ve earned that right. They’ve paid their dues. My 13 year old believes the same thing.