Fantastic #1 Missing Page - Grading Question 2 2

[Ssj4Wolverine]

Hello,

Just wanted some insight on a probable grade for this issue, if anyone can assist.

This is a pretty rare:

Power Comics (1967)

Fantastic #1

The book reprints the origins of Thor, Iron Man, the X-Men, Hulk stories. 

For its age, the book looks incredible on both covers and every interior page except page 35/36 (with ads on one side and story on the other) which has been cut in half to remove an ad coupon decades ago. 

With a cover this clean, I really want to get it graded as I think I have a pretty cool piece of history. I dont care if it comes back 3.0 or something, I just don't want an "NG" label that just looks terrible to me.

My question is, would CGC more likely grant a Green, Qualified label and reflect the condition of the overall issue, or would it be deemed incomplete as it is missing 1/2 a page and garner a NG grade?

Please advise and thank you!

 

JW

[The Lions Den]

On 5/4/2023 at 1:07 PM, Ssj4Wolverine said:

Hello,

Just wanted some insight on a probable grade for this issue, if anyone can assist.

This is a pretty rare:

Power Comics (1967)

Fantastic #1

The book reprints the origins of Thor, Iron Man, the X-Men, Hulk stories. 

For its age, the book looks incredible on both covers and every interior page except page 35/36 (with ads on one side and story on the other) which has been cut in half to remove an ad coupon decades ago. 

With a cover this clean, I really want to get it graded as I think I have a pretty cool piece of history. I dont care if it comes back 3.0 or something, I just don't want an "NG" label that just looks terrible to me.

My question is, would CGC more likely grant a Green, Qualified label and reflect the condition of the overall issue, or would it be deemed incomplete as it is missing 1/2 a page and garner a NG grade?

Please advise and thank you!

 

JW

Should receive a green label...   

[Ssj4Wolverine]

On 5/4/2023 at 10:43 AM, The Lions Den said:

Should receive a green label...   

Just made my day, Thank you!

[The Lions Den]

On 5/4/2023 at 2:45 PM, Ssj4Wolverine said:

Just made my day, Thank you!

You're welcome.

If the book is a 3.5 grade or above, it will receive a Qualified grade for a missing page (CGC considers half a missing page as a full missing page). This information should be included in the notes and in my view should also go on the label, but CGC has changed their stance on label information recently so I'm not sure how they'll handle it.

In any event, it's a cool book and I hope it all works out for you. Good luck...  

Edited May 4, 2023 by The Lions Den

[zzutak]

On 5/4/2023 at 10:07 AM, Ssj4Wolverine said:

I just don't want an "NG" label

To add to what Lions has correctly stated, NG certification was never a possibility with this book.  Universal 0.5 PR, yes (due to the half-missing leaf).  Universal NG, no (as it's not incomplete enough). 

[JollyComics]

Your copy may be 4.0.

I think it's safe to get the green label.

[Lightning55]

Cool book! I hope it grades nicely for you. 

[theCapraAegagrus]

Qualified makes sense to me.

[Ssj4Wolverine]

On 5/4/2023 at 4:48 PM, zzutak said:

To add to what Lions has correctly stated, NG certification was never a possibility with this book.  Universal 0.5 PR, yes (due to the half-missing leaf).  Universal NG, no (as it's not incomplete enough). 

I see. Thanks for the correction!

[Ssj4Wolverine]

On 5/4/2023 at 11:01 PM, Lightning55 said:

Cool book! I hope it grades nicely for you. 

Thank you! It just screams 'historical' to me. 

Going to display it prominently on my wall once graded

[Ssj4Wolverine]

On 5/4/2023 at 1:39 PM, The Lions Den said:

You're welcome.

If the book is a 3.5 grade or above, it will receive a Qualified grade for a missing page (CGC considers half a missing page as a full missing page). This information should be included in the notes and in my view should also go on the label, but CGC has changed their stance on label information recently so I'm not sure how they'll handle it.

In any event, it's a cool book and I hope it all works out for you. Good luck...  

Awesome to hear. Admittedly, I got a bit confused after reading up on missing page grading online. Thanks for being so helpful

[The Lions Den]

On 5/5/2023 at 1:32 PM, Ssj4Wolverine said:

Awesome to hear. Admittedly, I got a bit confused after reading up on missing page grading online. Thanks for being so helpful

You're welcome. 

The only thing I should add is that the book will normally receive a Qualified label for a flaw like this as long as there is no restoration and there are no other major flaws. If they can't give it a Qualified label, it will likely end up as a .5 because of the missing page. 

Best of luck to you...

Edited May 6, 2023 by The Lions Den

[themagicrobot]

Actually you are lucky that the missing page is from the interior. Many of these comics are missing the back cover. The first issue came with a free gift of a clear plastic wallet. Kids here in the UK were supposed to cut out the three pennant shaped images to place inside the wallet.

[The Lions Den]

On 5/6/2023 at 11:48 AM, themagicrobot said:

Actually you are lucky that the missing page is from the interior. Many of these comics are missing the back cover. The first issue came with a free gift of a clear plastic wallet. Kids here in the UK were supposed to cut out the three pennant shaped images to place inside the wallet.

[10centcomics]

On 5/5/2023 at 1:31 PM, Ssj4Wolverine said:

Thank you! It just screams 'historical' to me. 

Going to display it prominently on my wall once graded

Awesome book! I'd highly recommend against displaying it on a wall though. Unless the room is in complete darkness with no windows, sunlight and florescent lights will fade the colors on the cover over time.