What Comic Forums, Conventions, Stores, Sellers, etc Have Banned You And Why? {SERIOUS} 6 6

[Cman429]

To be fair, ebay takes a decent chunk out of your sale plus our wonderful Congress passed that law taxing small time ebayers so we can build windmills in Utah or whatever so I understand ebayers pricing stuff above GPA. In their calculus, they’ll be clearing around GPA after all the fees are deducted so it’s fair. 

Now the ones on there who still price stuff like it’s 2020 or guys at Cons asking 20% above GPA when you’re dealing in cash money, those people have no excuse.

[MatterEaterLad]

On 7/28/2023 at 9:58 AM, Dr. Balls said:

So, the story about Joe Linsner is still archived in this thread here. My side of the story from 2014 is below in italics.

I remember when that went down. He was so hopelessly wrong, rude, socially inept, and an all around horrible person to a super-fan who was doing him a solid.

I'm unable to divorce his work from the gross man-child behind it.

[valiantman]

On 7/30/2023 at 7:08 PM, mrlatko said:

He took the Hulk out of my hand and said "Ok, we're done here.  You insulted me."  So I insulted him by pointing out the facts?

...

I tried again to smooth things over, but he was determined to act the petulant child, so I left him and moved on.  The next time this show was held in 4 months, the same guy was there and he didn't even remember me.  So, I am no longer banned apparently, but would never ever try to deal with this guy again.

In other words, he gets called out for his overpricing so often, he can't possibly remember all the people who are smarter than he is. You remember what happened that one time because you're NOT a d-bag. He doesn't remember it because it's an everyday occurrence for d-bags.

[mrlatko]

On 8/1/2023 at 11:21 AM, valiantman said:

In other words, he gets called out for his overpricing so often, he can't possibly remember all the people who are smarter than he is. You remember what happened that one time because you're NOT a d-bag. He doesn't remember it because it's an everyday occurrence for d-bags.

This is exactly what I thought after reflecting on it later.  This guy must fight with customers constantly if his reaction to me was so aggressive and combative.  Anybody who knows me wouldn't call me someone who is difficult to deal with.

[Dr. Balls]

On 8/1/2023 at 8:06 AM, MatterEaterLad said:

I remember when that went down. He was so hopelessly wrong, rude, socially inept, and an all around horrible person to a super-fan who was doing him a solid.

I'm unable to divorce his work from the gross man-child behind it.

I'm not one to hold many lifelong grudges and I try to let most things go as time goes on - but I'll always take time out of my day to call that guy out for being a douchnozzle.

[Nick Furious]

On 8/1/2023 at 5:49 AM, Cman429 said:

To be fair, ebay takes a decent chunk out of your sale plus our wonderful Congress passed that law taxing small time ebayers so we can build windmills in Utah or whatever so I understand ebayers pricing stuff above GPA. In their calculus, they’ll be clearing around GPA after all the fees are deducted so it’s fair. 

Now the ones on there who still price stuff like it’s 2020 or guys at Cons asking 20% above GPA when you’re dealing in cash money, those people have no excuse.

I'm not sure that the overhead of selling at a convention works out to be any less than the variable costs of selling on Ebay.  If the dealer spends just $2K on booth fees and logistics, they will have to sell $20K to reach a 10% cost level.   

[Dr. Balls]

On 8/1/2023 at 4:49 AM, Cman429 said:

To be fair, ebay takes a decent chunk out of your sale plus our wonderful Congress passed that law taxing small time ebayers so we can build windmills in Utah or whatever so I understand ebayers pricing stuff above GPA. In their calculus, they’ll be clearing around GPA after all the fees are deducted so it’s fair. 

Now the ones on there who still price stuff like it’s 2020 or guys at Cons asking 20% above GPA when you’re dealing in cash money, those people have no excuse.

 

On 8/1/2023 at 9:56 PM, Nick Furious said:

I'm not sure that the overhead of selling at a convention works out to be any less than the variable costs of selling on Ebay.  If the dealer spends just $2K on booth fees and logistics, they will have to sell $20K to reach a 10% cost level.   

I was thinking the same thing. Between the costs of Ebay, Auction Houses and Conventions - and the fact that there are so many of them (spreading out the customer exposure due to all the options instead of concentrating it with limited options and venues) that there is a lot less chance of recuperating the cost of participation.

Add in the "flip" factor, and you have a similar effect that what happened in the housing market: as values increased, so did the opportunity to sell - each time a home flipped, a realtor got paid 6%. I sense that comics books went this way as well. A $100 book on GPA actually has an additional 10-15% of value unaccounted for (GPA factors in BP, but not the cost of 10-15% loss to the seller). So to break even for the next seller - numbers-wise - that $100 book now goes to $115 asking price so the seller can account for selling fees that aren't reported.

Want to make 10% profit? The book is now $127. Want to sell it at a place like Heritage or CC? Add buyer's premium on that $127 sale, now it's $150-$160 to the new buyer. Flip it a few more times, and now it's priced 2-3X it's true value.

My point to that is that like home sales, realtors, auction houses and even conventions are the only ones making money - and it's hand-over-fist, selling the same book (or having a venue to sell) over and over again - while it skyrocketed in value and now as it's in freefall.

Edited August 3, 2023 by Dr. Balls

[FlyingDonut]

On 7/28/2023 at 4:59 AM, Get Marwood & I said:

When I was about 17, I used to go to a small comic shop down an alley near Tottenham Court Road. I went there regularly, and always left my bag at the counter which was the owner's - a proper misery guts - policy to stop people nicking things. One day I decided to sell all my Doctor Who memorabilia so I could buy some clothes to look half decent (that's another story). He bought the lot and paid me a pittance. About enough for a jumper. The next week, I went back to see if the latest Doctor Who Bulletin was in. It was always in the same place, just in the doorway, so I just stuck my head in to see if it was there. He promptly banned me, ordered me out and said "You never leave your bag". It may have been a case of mistaken identity, but I had the presence of mind to call him a tosser, reminding him that he'd only just ripped me off the previous week.

Anyway, they knocked it down in the end. With a bit of luck he was still in there. 

Sir, we speak American here.

[paqart]

On 8/7/2023 at 11:00 PM, FlyingDonut said:

Nope. Conservatives are fine. @Stronguy makes you look like Lenin, and I find him to be a very standup guy.

You either haven't seen the threads I'm talking about, or you're mistaken.

[FlyingDonut]

On 7/31/2023 at 3:30 PM, october said:

Screw you for selling comics at a profit that I sold to you at a profit! Only certain people in the product foodchain are allowed to make money. Rules are rules.

This is the truth.

[FlyingDonut]

On 7/31/2023 at 9:45 PM, Nick Furious said:

The Donkey Show in Tijuana is not the place to go if you're inclined to defend a lady's honor.  It's got nothing in common with the trained animal shows at Seaworld or Universal Studios.   

NOW you tell me.

[Get Marwood & I]

On 8/8/2023 at 3:57 AM, FlyingDonut said:

Sir, we speak American here.

Apologies!

Does this help?

[TupennyConan]

I've gotten divorced a couple times, so that counts. 

[Buzzetta]

Wish I knew what was trimmed from the thread.  I got a lot of alerts that I cannot see.  

Pathetic 

 

In the 90's, I would sometimes watch over my local comic book store when the owner was going on vacation and the guy he hired could not work.  I already knew that several people had been banned and would try to come in on off hours to shop.  People got banned for being caught stealing, or coming in and trying to sell to customers or things like that or just been god awful annoying. 

[paqart]

On 8/7/2023 at 10:57 PM, FlyingDonut said:

Sir, we speak American here.

Try telling someone from the UK that your pants or too tight, or they have nice pants, or anything involving the word "pants." When I was living in Europe, It took over ten years to get used to the word "trousers", then I moved back to the US.

[Ken Aldred]

On 8/8/2023 at 3:33 PM, paqart said:

Try telling someone from the UK that your pants or too tight, or they have nice pants, or anything involving the word "pants."

It also means rubbish or carp in British English.

[namisgr]

What Comic Forums, Conventions, Stores, Sellers, etc Have Banned You And Why? {SERIOUS}

None.  

[KingOfRulers]

Me and @TupennyConan have been kicked out of Wizard World.

 

Our ejection from Wizard World was in Indianapolis during the height of the comic con wars. Wizard World was embarking on a nationwide expansion in 2015 and one of their expansion efforts was Wizard World Indianapolis. We were first to market with a large-scale comic convention in Indianapolis debuting Indiana Comic Con in March 2014. WW Indianapolis came to town in early 2015 roughly one month prior to Indiana Comic Con year 2, and we wouldn't have any of it. Me, TupennyConan, and two other friends/employees were there to fight off the invaders!

 

We handed our fliers and posters to the WW Indianapolis attendees as they were entering the exhibit hall. WW called security. We were told we couldn't hand out fliers near the entrance to the event or within the convention center. We relocated to the skybridge that connects the parking garages to the convention center. After a while WW staff must've noticed a stream of attendees arriving holding our fliers. They followed the trail of attendees and found the source. T'was us! The scene culminated with WW employees standing feet away from TupennyConan, taking pictures of him as he handed out fliers. Tupenny then pulled out his own phone and took pictures of them as they were taking pictures of him. So meta.

 

 

As we departed, Tupenny received a call from WW's Peter Katz, who summoned us back onsite for a discussion. We promptly returned and Tupenny faced Peter's wrath mano a mano, nose to nose. Peter banned us from all WW events. Without much ado, we then departed a second time.

 

Shortly after arriving back at the Marriott's bar for debriefings, the then-current Assistant Executive Director of the convention center called Tupenny and summoned us back onsight for another discussion. She then banned us from the Indiana Convention Center for the remainder of the weekend in order to 'keep the peace.' She was quite attractive, always a little flirty with Tupenny. We then departed a third time.

 

While all of this was going on, my friend Jamel was assigned to the parking garage and put a flier under as many car windshield wipers as he could. It was around 20 degrees outside (bless his heart). The security in the garage confronted Jamel and he sprinted away through the garage. 

 

WW Indy was a disaster. Indiana Comic Con a month later was a smash hit. WW never returned to the Indianapolis market after their initial effort in 2015, and Indiana Comic Con remains the only large-scale comic convention in Indy and has become a beloved staple of Indianapolis.

 

Peter and Tupenny made-up long ago and are fast friends to this day.

Edited August 9, 2023 by KingOfRulers

[Buzzetta]

Remember when Patz and Carbo was banned from the Javits and all other Reedpop shows?  

https://www.cbr.com/booth-thieves-banned-from-new-york-comic-con-comicon-bandit-arrested/

Carbo is very noticeable and still can be seen floating around. 

 

[Brock]

On 8/7/2023 at 10:57 PM, FlyingDonut said:

Sir, we speak American here.

You could always get a Canadian to translate…