Biggin747 Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 I submitted 10 comics to CGC for a 9.8 prescreen. 5 of the comics were slam sunk 9.8s and 5 were borderline and none of them had any color breaks at all anywhere. so I decided to have them pressed before grading. Only two were slabbed 8 were rejected, when I got them back the 8 rejects were riddled with color breaking spine ticks. i mean like a half dozen color breaks.It looks like they were pressed but not humidified during the pressing. that is only a guess, I'm just thinking of the physics of the process, but I don't know. Has anyone else had their books wrecked like this? Not sure what I want them to do, it's not like they can fix them. I'm just so disappointed. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post zzutak Posted October 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2023 It'd be nice to see before and after scans of all eight rejects (which I imagine would be the very best evidence you could provide in support of any claim). greggy, The Lions Den, Iconic1s and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 Postal handling can be a problem too. Don't rush to assign blame on the presser. Iconic1s and Turnando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revat Posted October 2, 2023 Share Posted October 2, 2023 what was your 9.8 hit percentage previously with respect to your cgc submissions? I'd say contact cgc, they may or may not be able to make it right, but you can give the feedback either way which may generate improvements in the long run. jimjum12 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post joeypost Posted October 3, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2023 Get a different presser. The Lions Den, NP_Gresham, newshane and 12 others 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Bombay Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 I had some books that I had pressed by CGC that were CBCS 9.8s and came back with all types of color breaking spine ticks and lesser grades. This was also the one and only time that I had CGC crack my holders. I have also seen Youtube videos of people claiming the same thing. Matt Nelson on the other hand is a Wizard, and unless he is pressing my book, I avoid CGC's presses as well as letting CGC crack my cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggin747 Posted October 3, 2023 Author Share Posted October 3, 2023 Thanks for all the feedback, unfortunately I do not have any detailed before pictures as I just documented what I was sending. That's on me, live and learn. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDarkseid1 Posted October 3, 2023 Share Posted October 3, 2023 It's soo crazy to me when I hear stuff like this. I've been sending books to CCS for years and never had anything like this happen. Feels more like it was a potential issue in shipping as a previous commenter said, then in pressing. Iconic1s and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcjames Posted October 4, 2023 Share Posted October 4, 2023 On 10/3/2023 at 8:03 AM, joeypost said: Get a different presser. I know of a really really good one! kimik, Cnight and BuscemasAvengers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cnight Posted October 5, 2023 Share Posted October 5, 2023 This Joey fellow is pretty solid 😎 thehumantorch and jimjum12 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 12:22 PM, Yorick said: Postal handling can be a problem too. Don't rush to assign blame on the presser. .... Postal handling isn't going to cause color breaking spine tics unless they are removing the book, manipulating the book, and repacking it before sending it through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 10:47 AM, Biggin747 said: 5 of the comics were slam sunk 9.8s and 5 were borderline and none of them had any color breaks at all anywhere. so I decided to have them pressed before grading. If you like throwing your money away, send some my way. Seriously. If it's a slam dunk 9.8 why on earth would you send it off for pressing? INSANE. You think you're going to turn it into a 9.9 or a 10? It doesn't work that way. greggy, jimbo_7071, jimjum12 and 2 others 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lions Den Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 11:47 AM, Biggin747 said: I submitted 10 comics to CGC for a 9.8 prescreen. 5 of the comics were slam sunk 9.8s and 5 were borderline and none of them had any color breaks at all anywhere. so I decided to have them pressed before grading. Only two were slabbed 8 were rejected, when I got them back the 8 rejects were riddled with color breaking spine ticks. i mean like a half dozen color breaks.It looks like they were pressed but not humidified during the pressing. that is only a guess, I'm just thinking of the physics of the process, but I don't know. Has anyone else had their books wrecked like this? Not sure what I want them to do, it's not like they can fix them. I'm just so disappointed. Before and after photos would be very helpful. Also, consider this a valuable life lesson---what have you learned from this experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorick Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/9/2023 at 6:23 PM, newshane said: .... Postal handling isn't going to cause color breaking spine tics unless they are removing the book, manipulating the book, and repacking it before sending it through. Nothing so involved as that. They could simply drive their truck over your package. Maybe the books were shipped in a bubble mailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 12:34 PM, Yorick said: Nothing so involved as that. They could simply drive their truck over your package. Maybe the books were shipped in a bubble mailer? I mean, anything is possible. That doesn't make it likely. In both instances, there would be other damage like massive folds, bends, or ripples across the cover. But a series of color-breaking spine tics? Highly unlikely that's the fault of the postal carrier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigg Howw Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 I invested in equipment and am starting to learn myself. I set a 45 trash book minimum before I press anything good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laracroooft28 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 On 10/2/2023 at 6:47 PM, Biggin747 said: I submitted 10 comics to CGC for a 9.8 prescreen. 5 of the comics were slam sunk 9.8s and 5 were borderline and none of them had any color breaks at all anywhere. so I decided to have them pressed before grading. Only two were slabbed 8 were rejected, when I got them back the 8 rejects were riddled with color breaking spine ticks. i mean like a half dozen color breaks.It looks like they were pressed but not humidified during the pressing. that is only a guess, I'm just thinking of the physics of the process, but I don't know. Has anyone else had their books wrecked like this? Not sure what I want them to do, it's not like they can fix them. I'm just so disappointed. Contact your pressing service provider and explain the situation. Express your concerns and dissatisfaction with the results. They may offer to fix the problem or provide compensation. The Lions Den 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDBill Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 I just got back one like this and was very disappointed. Several spine ticks and scuffing on the back that were not there. It was a SS book so I would think it was handling during the pressing or grading process since it should not have come out of the yellow signature folder before this, Right? Shipping should never cause this. Oh, well you live and learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDBill Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 4:42 PM, newshane said: I mean, anything is possible. That doesn't make it likely. In both instances, there would be other damage like massive folds, bends, or ripples across the cover. But a series of color-breaking spine tics? Highly unlikely that's the fault of the postal carrier. I just purchased 5 comics and I think USPS may have done just that. Drive a truck over the Gemini folder they were shipped in. All have bends and one was a foil that can't be pressed out. newshane 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newshane Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 On 10/16/2023 at 10:17 AM, WDBill said: I just purchased 5 comics and I think USPS may have done just that. Drive a truck over the Gemini folder they were shipped in. All have bends and one was a foil that can't be pressed out. 1. That's extremely unfortunate! I'm so sorry! 2. The damage is there for sure. But as you can clearly see, unfortunately, there will be much more apparent damage than a series of spine tics! I was just saying that postage mishandling isn't going to lead to localized damage like spine tics (that's probably the fault of the presser...I mean...butcher). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
