• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

ASM #252 CGC 9.8 Record Sale - something fishy going on? - Holder Tampering Incident confirmed by CGC
50 50

Started by spidermanbeyond,

9,028 posts in this topic

BrashL

BrashL

Posted
Posted
On 2/1/2024 at 1:15 PM, Samlarn72 said:

Is there a list of the stolen books?

I was wondering if my missing ff5 

#releasethelist....again....the new list I mean.

Hopefully this guy will send back all the comics he stole so CGC can check whether they were tampered with or not...

Link to comment
Share on other sites
  • Popular Post
agamoto

agamoto

Posted
  • Popular Post
Posted

I can't even...

Every single CGC customer should be demanding an independent law enforcement and/or FTC investigation at this point.

These people weren't stealing from CGC, they were stealing books from customers. 

How is it a husband and wife grader and a card concierge have, according to the complaint, apparent free reign to every part of the storage/grading/records/encapsulation/labelling processes? Is there no damn compartmentalization there? God almighty. Heads need to roll. 

This is precisely the same sort of lawsuit they filed against Richard Albright who was scamming with NGC coin cases. This suit is designed to force these two to settle with CGC, hand over every slabbed book they've got, and lock them into an NDA/settlement agreement to prevent anyone from learning the details.

The question brought up previously, now accentuated greatly by this new complaint, how can ANYONE at CGC say with a straight face the Mark Jeweler Fooler did not have any inside help when this suit demonstrates bad actors (plural!!) were working in the environment with the the access to make all those 9.8 fantasies come true?

Nothing short of an FTC/FBI investigation is going to get to the bottom of any of this. 

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Sweet Lou 14

Sweet Lou 14

Posted
Posted

I'm losing the thread here and would appreciate it if someone can clear up my confusion.

Am I right that this married couple being sued by CGC are completely separate from the scammer behind "the list" we've been talking about on this thread?  Because I don't recall any of the books on "the list" being stolen.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Heronext

Heronext

Posted
Posted
On 2/1/2024 at 7:47 PM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I'm losing the thread here and would appreciate it if someone can clear up my confusion.

Am I right that this married couple being sued by CGC are completely separate from the scammer behind "the list" we've been talking about on this thread?  Because I don't recall any of the books on "the list" being stolen.

Different crime, different case

Link to comment
Share on other sites
comicjel

comicjel

Posted
Posted
On 2/1/2024 at 3:23 PM, comicwiz said:

Another stretch of not having time on my side, but I guess this is as good as any time to share a link to my journal "Who Watches the Watchmen" - where I've posted some excerpts from the motion for injunction (and will update given this revelation).

Based on the COMPLAINT...

The guy was reholdering inferior books with duplicate (but authentic) labels from higher graded (different) books.

They were also able to get SS books encapsulated somehow without going through regular grading (and witnessing) protocols. 

Has way too many similarities to the "ASM 252 reholder" scam for my liking!

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
comicwiz

comicwiz

Posted
Posted
On 2/1/2024 at 7:47 PM, Sweet Lou 14 said:

I'm losing the thread here and would appreciate it if someone can clear up my confusion.

Am I right that this married couple being sued by CGC are completely separate from the scammer behind "the list" we've been talking about on this thread?  Because I don't recall any of the books on "the list" being stolen.

I think you answered your question. My advice: let CGC answer that for you with their next move.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
awakeintheashes

awakeintheashes

Posted
Posted
On 1/30/2024 at 4:15 PM, grendel013 said:

I know it's a stretch but is there any way to tell if any CGC staff have recently been "let go"? If there is an "inside man" I'm assuming it would NOT be a grader. Rather it would be someone with access to the labeling/encapsulation. We do have a list of the current grading team which is available online if we did want to start there. Meet the Graders | CGC (cgccomics.com)

Is anyone intimate enough with the staff to know if anyone is missing?

You have the numbers for the next powerball drawing? 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
awakeintheashes

awakeintheashes

Posted
Posted (edited)
On 2/1/2024 at 10:21 PM, grendel013 said:

image.png.b2220e93957d8f7b5e23583d3fb016a0.png

IMG_7141.gif.0c1ab0ed2d39b1444b7124ace001857a.gif
-  CGC on its next call with the bosses at blackstone when asked how everything is going. 

Edited by awakeintheashes
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Samlarn72

Samlarn72

Posted
Posted

Time is about right when my comic got lost

Sent this mail to cgc 25 januari:

The comic was checked in as the  Received: 7/4/23 have you talked to the person who did the unpacking? 
 
And the 7/28/23 the grading started and was put back on hold 2 hours later is it that grader you talked to about my missing book?
 
Because I got an email after contacting cgc 8/21/23 I got the answer that it was an error in the decription ....the grader that put it back did not file it as missing?
 
And later I was told that it was missplaced ( like in another line) and then later missing. 
 
And every time I pay I have to call cgc first so the transfer works so its a bit of work for me. 
 
Is the comic gone or is there still hope it can be found?
 
I really want my ff5 or another copy 1.5-1.8 its not easy to find us comics in sweden
 
Plz get back to me with answers
 
Thanks 
 
Stefan Karlsson 
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Samlarn72

Samlarn72

Posted
Posted
On 2/2/2024 at 4:56 AM, Nick Furious said:

Does that look like your book?  Just curious.  

Hard to tell 

My comic was lose on the bottom staple, And I cant see it on the pictures. It was graded one month after my was missing and a 1.8 can perhaps get a 2.5 on a good day... 

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
50 50
Go to topic listing