Readcomix Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) A friend of mine has it. All we know is what's on front: #1. Sig is "Marcus Gordon." Nothing on back. Edited April 29 by Readcomix Typos Roo_Phillip and grendel013 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJD Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 FWIW, those look like Korean War vintage uniforms on the Americans, so likely some time after 1950. Even more FWIW, that might not be a cover layout - there doesn't seem to be a lot of space for a title, price and logo. A story title might fit there though, so this could be a splash page. Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 9:08 AM, AJD said: FWIW, those look like Korean War vintage uniforms on the Americans, so likely some time after 1950. Even more FWIW, that might not be a cover layout - there doesn't seem to be a lot of space for a title, price and logo. A story title might fit there though, so this could be a splash page. Was thinking Korean too. Probably 1950s. Good call on splash possibility! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 I couldn't find any evidence of an artist called Marcus Gordon, so perhaps it's Marcus and Gordon (art / inker maybe)? Is that a little dash to the right of Marcus, that could signify that? zzutak and Readcomix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzutak Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Would the WWII Era be possible? Specifically, a rendition of a camp that held German POWs on U.S. soil. From what I can see, the prisoners don't look "cartoonishly" Asian (North Korean or Chinese), and the PW stencil on one prisoner's shirt is typical of those placed on the clothing worn by the German prisoners held in these U.S.-based camps. A pretty good summary may be found here. But WWII Era could easily be wrong, as German prisoners were generally not strongly motivated to mount escape attempts from these U.S. camps. In any event, I think a close-up of the prisoners' facial features would tell the tale. Edited April 29 by zzutak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pemart1966 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Could be a rejected/unused cover... JollyComics 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Telegan Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 (edited) From what I've been able to find so far, and assuming it's two different people as @Get Marwood & I suggested, it could be Mo/Moe/Morris Marcus and Al Gordon who seemed to have worked together on a few stories back during that era (40s-60s). They both worked on war-related stories, as well. I haven't been able to find that page/cover, though. I'll see if I can find anything else when I get more time tomorrow or maybe someone else can get further details. Here's a story where they signed their names as "Marcus" and "Gordon" (albeit with a "+", from the looks of it) in Crime and Punishment #63 : Edited April 29 by Telegan Darwination, vheflin, Pat Calhoun and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 5:12 PM, Telegan said: From what I've been able to find so far, and assuming it's two different people as @Get Marwood & I suggested, it could be Mo/Moe/Morris Marcus and Al Gordon who seemed to have worked together on a few stories back during that era (40s-60s). They both worked on war-related stories, as well. We're getting there..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 11:12 AM, Telegan said: From what I've been able to find so far, and assuming it's two different people as @Get Marwood & I suggested, it could be Mo/Moe/Morris Marcus and Al Gordon who seemed to have worked together on a few stories back during that era (40s-60s). They both worked on war-related stories, as well. I haven't been able to find that page/cover, though. I'll see if I can find anything else when I get more time tomorrow or maybe someone else can get further details. Here's a story where they signed their names as "Marcus" and "Gordon" (albeit with a "+", from the looks of it) in Crime and Punishment #63 : Lead ON!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) True War Experience 1-4 (I managed to find some credits for Al Gordon and Moe Marcus - both are artists/inkers). 1952. Credits for Al Gordon Ignore those foreign publishers and post 1950 eras. Edited April 29 by JollyComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin.J Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) On 4/29/2024 at 7:41 PM, JollyComics said: True War Experience 1-4 (I managed to find some credits for Al Gordon and Moe Marcus - both are artists/inkers). 1952. Credits for Al Gordon Ignore those foreign publishers and post 1950 eras. I have TWE 1-4, I will go and check the splash pages as its not a cover of any of those issues. I am back - I just had a quick flip through those issues and its not from any of these books The search goes on... Edited April 29 by Kevin.J JollyComics and Readcomix 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) On 4/29/2024 at 9:53 AM, zzutak said: Would the WWII Era be possible? Specifically, a rendition of a camp that held German POWs on U.S. soil. From what I can see, the prisoners don't look "cartoonishly" Asian (North Korean or Chinese), and the PW stencil on one prisoner's shirt is typical of those placed on the clothing worn by the German prisoners held in these U.S.-based camps. A pretty good summary may be found here. But WWII Era could easily be wrong, as German prisoners were generally not strongly motivated to mount escape attempts from these U.S. camps. In any event, I think a close-up of the prisoners' facial features would tell the tale. I grew up to hear stories about POW in Chicago area. Camp Skokie Valley had no fence around the prison. Many German descendants took them out for dinner and brought them back. MP guards sometimes yelled at them for being late. No one thought of escaping. The camp is now overgrown with woods. Fort Sheridan was the major POW prison that held 4000 prisoners but it was a short-lived. Sub camps were Camp Pine, Camp Thornton, Arlington Fields and Camp Skokie Valley, each with 200 POWs. My hometown Arlington Heights used to have an alternative unpaved runaway (Arlington Fields) that became a temporary POW camp with 205 former Afrikakorps (most of them were 19 to 22 years old). After WWII, Arlington Fields became Defense Missile Site. Now, it's US Army Reserve and has 5 level bulk storage underground. The part of land is Arlington Golf Course. Those prisoners worked on the runaways at Glenview Naval Station (two aircraft carriers on Lake Michigan) and built the chapel on the base (today it became The Glen mall). The lookout building and chapel are only remainders of the old naval air base. The chapel is most popular for weddings. Sometimes, they worked at Pesches's Flowers (still exists) in Des Plaines that was closer to the railroad tracks (no POW thought about the escape to hop in the freight train). All POWs worked many different jobs around Chicago except Rockford. They treated well and got paid when they returned home with gained weights. Only one escaped in 1943 and recaptured in Chicago in 1953. The major population outside Chicago was German descendants. Those worked on agricultural majorly and worked at some industries. They dated some women and drank at the local taverns even going to the clubs and churches. After the war, many former POWs came back here to become the permanent residents. Edited April 29 by JollyComics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 1:50 PM, Kevin.J said: I have TWE 1-4, I will go and check the splash pages as its not a cover of any of those issues. I am back - I just had a quick flip through those issues and its not from any of these books The search goes on... Thank you for ruling them out. The search continues. Readcomix 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post IngelsFan Posted April 29 Popular Post Share Posted April 29 Will_K, zzutak, Scrooge and 17 others 16 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Point Five Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 5:54 PM, IngelsFan said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 10:54 PM, IngelsFan said: Well done. GCD says Mel Keefer for the cover artist. I wonder how Marcus - Gordon fits in then (absent from the finished cover)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telegan Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 5:08 PM, Get Marwood & I said: Well done. GCD says Mel Keefer for the cover artist. Wonder how Marcus - Gordon fits in (absent from the finished cover)? Keefer did the interior artwork for the story "Monju Island" for sure (see screenshot below from CB+). He even signed it, but no such signature on the cover. Also found this earlier where they mention that Al Gordon did work for the Monty Hall of the US Marines title, but I don't think GCD mentions him anywhere (unless I missed it). Could just be that GCD is wrong. Who knows? Get Marwood & I 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Get Marwood & I Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 11:29 PM, Telegan said: Keefer did the interior artwork for the story "Monju Island" for sure (see screenshot below from CB+). He even signed it, but no such signature on the cover. Also found this earlier where they mention that Al Gordon did work for the Monty Hall of the US Marines title, but I don't think GCD mentions him anywhere (unless I missed it). Could just be that GCD is wrong. Who knows? Maybe he added the top of the lookout tower roof... Point Five 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Readcomix Posted April 29 Author Share Posted April 29 @IngelsFan and all sleuthy contributors, you're a buncha rockstars! Thank you! Looks like the story title on the lookout tower covered the Marcus/Gordon sig (see oA in 1st post). Thank you all!!! IngelsFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JollyComics Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 On 4/29/2024 at 5:29 PM, Telegan said: Keefer did the interior artwork for the story "Monju Island" for sure (see screenshot below from CB+). He even signed it, but no such signature on the cover. Also found this earlier where they mention that Al Gordon did work for the Monty Hall of the US Marines title, but I don't think GCD mentions him anywhere (unless I missed it). Could just be that GCD is wrong. Who knows? Me either. I don't know why Mel Keefer got a credit for both pencil and ink on the cover. Every issue was done mostly by Mel Keefer. Nothing for Al Gordon or "Moe" Marcus for this series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
