JJBEE2001 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I must agree with my fellow forumites...Adventure 39, hands down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filter81 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 How about this one: OR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 How about this one: OR I'll take that killer looking Action #1 Grail of all Grails in 1 second over the All Star 3......NOTHING beats this Grail !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Black Hand ® Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Action 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 fine...I'll never drink vodka and chose again! (It apparently impairs my reasoning abilities---that Tec 3 looks a 7.5 right about now) 7.5? Wow, that vodka must be 6000 proof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFB Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Action 1, hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
showcase4 Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 fine...I'll never drink vodka and chose again! (It apparently impairs my reasoning abilities---that Tec 3 looks a 7.5 right about now) 7.5? Wow, that vodka must be 6000 proof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'm back and I don't feel bad. Pretty wonderful actually. Concerning the possibility of C/P on the Cap 12 and Subby I'm happy with my conclusions and I'm 100% certain there is no C/P here. Until someone proves me wrong, 100% is here to stay. My opponents haven't offered me anything to consider otherwise. Only in a very general way, manipulation or c/p is pervasive everywhere, including Chicagos. I have the White Rose collection catalog from Heritage, and there are so many Chicagos shown and one book has a tear seal and C/P.I wonder if johnnydouble is referring to this one. I'm happy with this as exceptions are to be expected even if it broke my standards a bit. My point is that C/P Chicagos are rare.I am very happy with my findings and if other people don't agree, well that's fine. If you can find more C/P Chicagos, then Filter would be right and I would be wrong. BTW Masterchef is correct, this catalog shows many Chicago books without the pedigree label, and I own an additional one that's not in the catalog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.tor Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 hello all.... I think this one is the easiest one of all for me (and there have been some great ones) ...action 1 rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Can I add something? I just realized the true context of Masterchef's statement in his earlier post. All I intended to say in the conclusion to my last post is that CGC simply left the pedigree label off the White Rose Chicago books. These Chicago books in the White Rose collection were straight out of brothers' collection, which was assembled long before CGC or internet auctions. So I think Masterchef was referring to more recent manipulated resubs with the pedigree intentionally non-disclosed to hopefully evade past identification. It's possible, there no guarantees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronty Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 That's what we've all been saying all along.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamstrange Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'm back and I don't feel bad. Pretty wonderful actually. Concerning the possibility of C/P on the Cap 12 and Subby I'm happy with my conclusions and I'm 100% certain there is no C/P here. Until someone proves me wrong, 100% is here to stay. My opponents haven't offered me anything to consider otherwise. Only in a very general way, manipulation or c/p is pervasive everywhere, including Chicagos. I have the White Rose collection catalog from Heritage, and there are so many Chicagos shown and one book has a tear seal and C/P.I wonder if johnnydouble is referring to this one. I'm happy with this as exceptions are to be expected even if it broke my standards a bit. My point is that C/P Chicagos are rare.I am very happy with my findings and if other people don't agree, well that's fine. If you can find more C/P Chicagos, then Filter would be right and I would be wrong. BTW Masterchef is correct, this catalog shows many Chicago books without the pedigree label, and I own an additional one that's not in the catalog. IIRC, the MM 9 from the White Rose collection is the Chicago copy, though not so marked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action1kid Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Ill take the Action # 1 to know ones surprise! Just a note. The Nick Cage Action # 1[seen above] is one of the richest color cover Action # 1s I have ever seen. Notice that the book looks much better than a vg 4.5 and thats because on the Nick cage copy all of the damage[for lack of a better word] is on the back cover. That is what brought it down to a 4.5, even though it has off white to white pages . You can see a scan of the back cover on the Heritage archieves to see what Im talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmg3637 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I agree one of the easier choices ACTION 1 is the grail of all grails. I would take it in a second. of course I do already have a decent copy of All Star # 3 looks vert nice but has a split from staple to staple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filter81 Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I'm surprised everyone thought this one was so easy, although I did think most people would probably choose the Action 1. The All Star 3 actually sold for almost $50,000 more through Heritage than the Action 1 did. Making it seem like several years ago most people would've chosen the All Star 3. It really is amazing to me how quickly things can change in this hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
action1kid Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 If I remember the Action 1 sold for 86k and the All star 3 sold for 126k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 <<That's what we've been saying all along.>> All I said in my last post is that anything is possible.I know now that I should have been more specific in my last post. The phrase "anything is possible" as you and I each use it, has different frames of reference here. And that's all. When you use it, you're saying that whenever the opportunity for profit arises it (manipulation) will or probably will happen and its quite common, as seen in the transparency of the auctions. It's the way it is these days.True, there are people whose sole interest is manipulation for profit. When I say anything is possible I'm only using it very sparingly when applied to Chicagos or hi-grade GA in general. What I'm saying is that the majority of these books are in the hands of collectors who just love the books, with no plans to sell.Jon Berk or Sacentaur are excellent examples of this. Also, the point I made at the start is that there are many hi-grade books that are not candidates for improvement or manipulation.Or books that fall into the hi-grade category but with defects are viewed by their owners as beautiful enough as is.These are collectors in the truest sense. It's a fine quality in a collector. These books generally stay in high grade collections. Jon Berk's Mile High National run he sold is a good example. A run of books bought intact, enjoyed in his collection on their own merits, sold sold intact. That's respect for the books on Jon's part. Recent manipulation is "posssible" as I use it in my frame of reference, but I want to think it's unlikely. The quality of such books I think attract quality collectors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Actually his MH National run was bought intact, enjoyed in his collection on their individual merits, and sold individually at the same time. I need to slow down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stagedoorjohnny Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I have the White Rose collection catalog from Heritage, and there are so many Chicagos shown and one book has a tear seal and C/P.I wonder if johnnydouble is referring to this one. Nope. Not the same one ma' friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelhelmet Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I apologize for the name mix-up, Dennis. And thnx for the heads-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
