• When you click on links to various merchants on this site and make a purchase, this can result in this site earning a commission. Affiliate programs and affiliations include, but are not limited to, the eBay Partner Network.

Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

At what page quality do you NOT buy a slabbed book?

Started by AuburnTiger,

24 posts in this topic

AuburnTiger

AuburnTiger

Posted
Posted

Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

Link to comment
Share on other sites
G.A.tor

G.A.tor

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

on a very rare book, tan pages are ok, if you must....on old labels, I will buy light tan to white (because light tan is likely cream)...

on new labels, I buy cream or better...

I never own a slightly brittle or brittle paged book...if I buy one raw, and slab it, and it comes back sb or br, I sell it

rick

Link to comment
Share on other sites
rjpb

rjpb

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

on a very rare book, tan pages are ok, if you must....on old labels, I will buy light tan to white (because light tan is likely cream)...

on new labels, I buy cream or better...

I never own a slightly brittle or brittle paged book...if I buy one raw, and slab it, and it comes back sb or br, I sell it

rick

 

Pretty much sums it up - I might buy a low grade book with slightly brittle pages as a placeholder, but only if the price is right. I Prefer at least Cream Pages, but will accept Tan to White on a high demand book I've been searching for, or once again if the price is right.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Primetime

Primetime

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

In general, cream to off-white, off white, off white to white, or white are the desirable CGC PQ grades. If it's a major key or scare book, Light tan or tan is ok. I stay away from brittle, slightly brittle, or brown PQ.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
ciorac

ciorac

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

In general, cream to off-white, off white, off white to white, or white are the desirable CGC PQ grades. If it's a major key or scare book, Light tan or tan is ok. I stay away from brittle, slightly brittle, or brown PQ.

 

thumbsup2.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites
action1kid

action1kid

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

I go for off-white or better. I only have 1 cream to off white book and thats only because its a Big Book. Not that theres anything wrong with that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
143ksk

143ksk

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

In general, cream to off-white, off white, off white to white, or white are the desirable CGC PQ grades. If it's a major key or scare book, Light tan or tan is ok. I stay away from brittle, slightly brittle, or brown PQ.

 

thumbsup2.gif

 

thumbsup2.gifthumbsup2.gif

Link to comment
Share on other sites
batman_fan

batman_fan

Posted
Posted

I try to avoid anything below off-white to white but on every now and then buy an off-white or dare I admit cream to off-white but for a cream to off-white it has to be a tough book to find or a smoking deal. My experience in the past has not been too god for CGCs page notation.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
JJBEE2001

JJBEE2001

Posted
Posted

I'm not a "page-quality snob" simply because most of the books that I go after tend to be very hard to find in any condition, so I usually don't have the luxury of deciding between multiple copies with different page qualities. I have several GA books that are "cream to off-white" & I'm just fine with that.

 

If a book is easier to find, then I agree with the previous posts - I try not to go below off-white if possible.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
whomerjay

whomerjay

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

there's a price point for everything.

 

COWP on desirable GA books no problem.

 

I'll buy LTOWP pages on tough to find GA books at 75% the price of what I'd pay for COWP if QP and eye appeal are good. As mentioned, old label LT pages will probably do better if resubbed.

 

I've dismissed every book I've ever seen offered with sightly brittle pages or worse. The vision of many small pieces of the book floating in the slab is too much. However, if anyone wants to sell say low grade Detective 27-33 with brittle pages for one third graded guide, I might go for that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Inaflash

Inaflash

Posted
Posted

I am very particular about page quality and won't usually buy anything but off-white to white or white. I have bought a couple off-white books that were tough to find though. I also tend to crack most of my books out, so when I open them up I want a fresh looking copy. I have passed on many raw books that have edge tanning to the inside covers. I would rather have a very sharp 8.0 with white pages than a 9.4 with cream pages. Just my 2 cents.

 

Ken

Link to comment
Share on other sites
batman_fan

batman_fan

Posted
Posted
So did the new CGC labels completely do away with the "tan"? Are old light tans comparable with the cream pages of newer labels?

 

I had a book I submitted with pages that were tan around the edge and brittle (paper was flaking off). Came back tan to off-white, no mention of slightly brittle (minimum I expected) or brittle pages. That is why I avoid books that say tan. CGC use to note the interior cover quality but they don't anymore. Books with cream pages are more likely to have tan interior covers which is a pet peeve of mine (not that I don't have some books like that in my collection).

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Durden08

Durden08

Posted
Posted

I would say this brittle paged book I would pass on. I've heard about pages flaking into the bottom of the holder, but haven't seen one until this book:

 

583369.jpg

 

 

I try to stay at Cream-Off-white of better. However I would consider Light-Tan on a rare book.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
thedude

thedude

Posted
Posted

wow, that More Fun looks pretty bad,.. :eek:

 

I try to stay at Off-white or higher, but don't mind Cream-Off-White on most GA books. I've cracked out a few CGC CR-OW books and they looked pretty good.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Socratic Wonder

Socratic Wonder

Posted
Posted
Hi, me again, with another possible ridiculous question.

 

I was just curious. At what point do you GA collectors draw the line at page quality? I'm not really familiar with how CGC determines their page quality. For example, are cream pages a relatively bad thing? What about tan?

 

there's a price point for everything.

 

COWP on desirable GA books no problem.

 

I'll buy LTOWP pages on tough to find GA books at 75% the price of what I'd pay for COWP if QP and eye appeal are good. As mentioned, old label LT pages will probably do better if resubbed.

 

I've dismissed every book I've ever seen offered with sightly brittle pages or worse. The vision of many small pieces of the book floating in the slab is too much. However, if anyone wants to sell say low grade Detective 27-33 with brittle pages for one third graded guide, I might go for that.

 

Hell for Tec 27-33 I would pay 1/2 guide for brittle pages. Thats because I am a sucker for those issues :P

 

I agree that any page quality, short of brittle, is acceptable at the right price!

Link to comment
Share on other sites
mr.schomburg

mr.schomburg

Posted
Posted

I don't mind Cream to off-white pages, but I will buy a cream or light tan to cream if its a hard to find book. I of course prefer off-white or better, but tan-brittle or even tan is hard for me to swallow as page quality such as these can create a damaged book so easily.

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
sacentaur

sacentaur

Posted
Posted
Books with cream pages are more likely to have tan interior covers which is a pet peeve of mine (not that I don't have some books like that in my collection).

 

On the flip side, I own some GA books with beautiful off-white to white or blazing white pages and yet the inside covers are brackish dark brown. Not ideal, but a fair trade off in my opinion.

 

To me, page quality has always been the most important characteristic of any book (so I am generally more picky than most). I start out looking for off-white to white or white pages, but of course there are exceptions.

 

 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Silver Surfer

Silver Surfer

Posted
Posted

Give me a MMC#9 with slightly brittle pages and I'm all over it. I have owned books with the slightly brittle pages notation and to be honest they weren't that bad. Brittle is a different story but that will usually bring the price down so if its one of my major grails I might still take a stab at it.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Go to topic listing