Bomber-Bob

This looks like it's worth submitting, The book looks decent, no tears or major problems. Spidey 129 does not need to be ultra high grade to be worth submitting. Always a good one. 

1 hour ago, davet75 said:

bump.  I'm sure someone on here knows the answer...

As with many grading questions, there is never a single answer. It depends. If this is a lower grade book it may get a blue label with a married centerfold designation. Mid grade to higher would probably get a Green Label. You have a legitimate question but when nobody answers it indicates a tough question. 

11 hours ago, dfx1 said:

How often did something like that happen with the final grader override with such a discrepancy? Assuming you made calls on most of your submissions. That's really interesting. CGC's grading process description on their website doesn't really get that specific. It does say..."if all grades are in agreement or are very close, the book will be assigned a final grade. If there is disagreement among the graders, there will be a discussion with other graders until a final determination is made." 

 

I really didn't call often, only when something was unexplanable to me. There's no way of answering your question on how often these final grades are overriden. We are not privy to the daily details. 

16 minutes ago, Spawn1709 said:

But I tried to submit only one book (the book getting pressed) and the shipping cost was still $60. Is it because it's going to CCS and then to CGC that the shipping cost is so much? 

The cost of shipping either one or two comics together is probably about the same. The second book does not add much to the cost as long as they are shipped together. In your situation, you chose one to be pressed, resulting in two seperate shipments. In general, you cannot ask CGC to hold on to the first book waiting for the other book to be pressed. Technically they are paying insurance on all books in house. This is why they ship it out when ready. You can ask CGC, say this is you first shipment and was not aware of such details. Trust me, from experience, this will not be the only newbie mistake you will make. In general, it is much cheaper to ship multiple copies together. Add some volume. One book at a time is killer. 

11 hours ago, Lisa B. said:

I have to wonder about the grading system myself...….I should be getting back 2 comics I submitted for grading (both identical) and according to CGC they only graded 9.4 with white pages,now this would be ok except that the comic books came straight from their original shipping box which I opened and went right into a polybag with a board and sealed so if anything I would think it would have gotten an 9.8 or stretching it 9.9 at least

I forgot to mention that they have never even been read.

 

I'm sorry but your logic on this, that the books should be 9.8/9.9 just because the books came directly from the original shipping is wrong. They may have been 9.4's on arrival to you. CGC is just doing there job, blame whoever shipped it to you. 

15 hours ago, aszumilo said:

Those should press out, but, it is difficult to say what the grade change would be without seeing the whole book.  I would think a .5 bump would be realistic at minimum just from what you've shown here.

That 1.5 inch bend on the back cover may be able to be flattened but there is a solid indentation there that would remain.  The best thing is to submit to CCS, in the slab, for an evaluation. I suspect there is a 0.5 upgrade here for just submitting it.

10 hours ago, Spawn1709 said:

So then do I have to pay the $120 if I want my books graded?

I'm not getting the impression that you understand the problem. You submitted two books. However, you signed up to get only one pressed, that's the problem. The books will be shipped seperately. The problem, or lesson to learn here, is submit books together, to be graded at the same time and shipped at the same time.

1 hour ago, Spawn1709 said:

Do you think I should email CGC and try to figure this out? 

I think there will be two different shipments back because you aubmitted one for pressing. The book being pressed will take a lot longer and CGC does not hold onto the books once finished. By pressing only one book of the two cost you double the shipping. You can call CGC but unless you change the submittal this is just the way it works. Books only ship together when processed together. Sorry.

2 hours ago, Spawn1709 said:

Hello, I just finished packing two books to ship off to CGC. However, when I saw that the shipping costs would be $60 per book ($120 total), I became very confused as to why it is so much. I am shipping from Canada. The books that I am shipping are both listed as modern comics (1975 - current). One book is being pressed. If anyone could explain why the shipping is $120, that would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.  

Edit* The shipping method that comes up when I fill the submission form is FedEx International ground shipping. 

One thing I can point out is you have two books but only one will be pressed. They will probably be shipped back seperately. When having such a small volume it's best to have them processed the same.   

Just a comment, you are sadly mishandling the comic. I have no idea what you are trying to show in the last pic by holding it down with one hand whule bending it with the other hand. 

2 hours ago, picon3 said:

Bob,

I hear what you are saying.  If it were a solid 9.4, I'd just be happy to have it in my collection, but as I've looked it over pretty carefully under magnification, I'm leaning towards it possibly being a 9.6 with a clean and a press.  But it is a tough call.  No grader's notes in an older case with no color breaking areas.  There is a bend (not a crease) on the right back corner that would press out and the white on the left edge would also benefit from a press.  I've had very good luck with CPR, so I'm thinking I'll send it in and roll the dice again.  I'll update when it comes back.  Thanks to all (and thanks for the link from Joeypost about the paint pens-very scary stuff) who commented.  Paul~

One thing I would like to point out, your book already looks totally clean = no improvement for that. As a suggestion I would submit to CCS, request an evaluation. DO not remove it from the slab, send it in the slab. 

4 hours ago, joeypost said:

Not completely true. CGC allows a select few to work on SS books. 

Yes, I believe you were among a select few to be able to crack open the slab and keep the integrity. Question, is this book worth the effort and expensive to upgrade from 9.4 to 9.6 ? I mean it's not an AF15. 

On 5/14/2019 at 1:54 PM, newshane said:

Check with other reputable pressers, some of whom are on the boards. You can PM for recommendations, as the CGC frowns upon us promoting competitors. 

There is such a thing as "spot pressing" which would take care of the issue. 

Though I agree with the 'spot pressing' recomendation, I would not send this book to anyone but CCS. I may but be wrong but if someone else takes the SS out of the slab, I think it may no longer be recognized as an SS book, maybe a green label.  

1 hour ago, Dr. Cyclops said:

Oops yes meant Vault of Horror. Curious about GPA stats on graded issues in total when looking up a particular issue from pre code issues. How does number of graded issues impact rarity? Or more precisely, issues graded higher than a particular grade. Say 4.5 has 30 issue graded higher, but only 60 graded issues are known? Trying to get a handle on it. Despite keys as such just curious the number stats.  Thank for your earlier reply.

I believe you have asked this question in the wrong section, this is a WTB thread. 

I don't see how the flaws that had this AF 15 as a 9.0 were improved to now give a 9.2 . I am sensing lately thatt CGC is starting a loose period.  

1 hour ago, shadroch said:

Would microwave exposure kill mold?

Are you suggesting you zap the comic in a microwave ? 

16 minutes ago, szav said:

Ahem ... pretty sure I won by price is right rules...

You are correct Sir, you did guess 5.0  .  

This is a great looking book and I don't think the sticker should hurt the grade much, if at all. However, it scares me that CGC is getting lenient again. Nobody guessed higher than 4.5 and CGC gives it a 5.5. IMO, a 5.5 is simply too generous, mostly because of the severity of the foxing. I just hope non of that is mold. 

1 hour ago, The Lions Den said:

I remember when they were free...ah, those were the days!  

I remember when you had to call CGC directly to inquire about notes. They would also tell you how each of 3 graders assigned their grades. Scenarios like 9.0,9.0,9.2 . Found out the FInal grader outruled the other graders. I once had a book assigned a 9.8 by 3 grader's that was overruled to a 9.0 ! I think Haspel found something that they missed. IMO, Haspel was the best grader, really sharp. When he left and Litch took over, I sensed the grades were too lenient. Does Haspel still come in to grade on a part time basis ?

1 hour ago, Donald Jack said:

Every experience is different depending on when you send.  I've had some books arrive and get added to the system 3 business days after USPS tracking shows delivered, and most recently I had to wait 8 business days.  I've read that during comic-con season, some folks have waited weeks for submissions to show in the system.  With about 5 business days on your current submission, I'd say you're still good for a few more.

Many folks on these boards will tell you, and I agree...it's all about patience.  And if that fails, the customer service when calling is tops!

DJ

I totally agree with your comments. If you submit to CGC, you have to develop patience. 

Try looking at this..........

https://www.cgccomics.com/pdf/cgc-return-shipping-fees.pdf

I believe 25 books in the same return shipping is both optimal and the maximum. There is a whole section on this located on the CGC website. 

Trading a semi key SA 205 from 1967 for a book from 1990 is not a good deal. The book from 1990 doesn't even have WHite Pages. No deal, no trade. 

10 hours ago, iXr184 said:

CGC will give you a qualified grade. 

If the cover is detached at a staple, you are correct that CGC will give you a Qualified grade. However, the owner implied it's only detcahed on an inner page. If that is true, I think it will just take a grade hit. I believe I once submitted a book to CGC where the center page was detached at one staple. I think it just took a grade hit .

4 minutes ago, BladeTX said:

Hi Bob, I’m not reholdering a 9.9.   I just mentioned that I have a friend who would like to if the risk of downgrade was not there. CGC’s sister coin grading group NGC guarantees the grade.  If they find it to be lower they will buy the coin off the market or reimburse the owner the difference.  But they charge more to grade expensive coins than comics.

Interesting. I was not aware of this guarantee for coins.