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I always assumed that is some sort of oxidation of the reflective substrate. My reasoning is that can happen *after* the sticker had been applied.

No, the reason given still holds to the official green policy of highest possible grade is the higher of the two lowest grades.

Yes. Most companies would do that, though.

This was finally resolved with then shipping back my cards today via UPS Next Day Air. One card was downgraded to a Black three from a Green Gem Mint 9.5. The other card went from being a Green Mint 2*9.5/2*9 to a Black Mint 9. I *ABSOLUTELY* have no idea how to get a black 9.5 from a green 9 with high subs. Maybe it's for 10/9.5/9/9 & better.

It's the argument of the slippery slope. Once they give it "free" for $50k+ cards, people will argue about why that is the cut-off. Then it becomes "I have to pay $150 for grader notes, if my card is a $49,999 card, since I need to declare the $50k rate. $150 is ridiculous! It should be free for all cards over $5k." That gets followed with "I have to pay $30 for grader notes, if my card is a $4,999 card, since I need to declare the $5k rate. That's ridiculous. It should be free for anything but bulk!" That becomes "Wow! CSG charges $15 for bulk and doesn't even do subs! I'm going to PSA. For $3 more, my $300 CSG 7 card will sell on eBay for $20,000 as a PSA 10!?@?@?!!!! I know that it would grade a 10 at PSA, because they graded a trimmed Honus Wagner card as a 9!!!! CSG should include free grader notes, since they do it for comics!!!!" CSG raises rates to $30 bulk and starts including subs on all slabs. People then complain about having to pay for subs... "How can CSG charge $15 for subs???? I'm going to BGS, since subs are just $10!!!" CSG "lowers" bulk rate to $22 without subs and starts charging $9 for subs again... rinse, repeat.

For what it's worth, after decades of being worthless, those types of cards have *some* value now, especially of rookies.

Order now shows as shipped 11 July 2022... amazing how CSG is able to ship things in the future. Cards that were sent in for Mechanical Error had the following attributes: 1) Centering 9.5 Corners 9 Edges 9.5 Surface 9 Autograph 9 2) All subs 9.5 Card grades being returned to me: 1) Grade 9 Autograph 9 2) Grade 3 CSG offered me a buyout for the amount of my declared value plus the original grading fees for the second card, which is fine. However, I *really* want to know what constitutes a 9.5 Mint+, if a 9.5/9/9.5/9 didn't qualify for the grade level.

I don't think the premium will be as large, unless the card *looks* perfect to the naked eye. Basically, card would need to be "10" on corners and edges, with subgrades, or show no white spotting or less than 50/50 centering, absent subgrades. Eventually, I think the market might even discount Gem Mint 9.5 green labels due to having to pay a reholder fee and shipping two ways for a black 10. In the short run, however Pristine greens will sell for a premium (say closer to PSA 10) compared to Gem Mint blacks. As people come to accent CSG more, this premium likely narrows, until someone introduces and after market regrade service, similar to the gold and green "beans" for PCGS & NGC coins.

You mean like how CCG has chosen to do for CGC comic books? Honestly, no. It makes sense for comics, because a good portion of the grade has to do with things one can't see (inner cover, page colors, any miscut or stained interior pages, etc). For cards, introducing grader notes basically means CSG eliminated a revenue stream to give proprietary data away for free. The net result would be another jump in grading fees.

No. CSG eliminated Pristine, shifted Gem mint to 10, and introduced Mint+ as 9.5.

You list it on eBay for 20% over what you want plus shipping. If that is more than the completed sales, it probably won't go for the price you want.

Why would you have separate averages for graded and upgraded, if the set has no potential for break?

On any card, yes. Multiple times.

What do you mean? Only you would know the specific provenance of a card in your possession.

I sent in a Mechanical Error submission on 4/20, and I wasn't told until 6/27, after numerous emails, that CSG damaged one of the cards. I *still* haven't had the other card returned, nor have I received a compensation payment for the ruined card and all the grading related fees I had paid in the past for the card.

Upper Deck QC was somewhat suspect in the early-90s. If you found one of those, odds were fairly high that you'd find 8-10 of the same style error in that box. Also, they would be consecutively numbered.

If so, I'm interested in the Mantles and Ruths above Ex-.

So, for the prices, are you saying you will sell the graded ones for $50@ & upgraded for $20@?

What are you asking? Board rules require an asking price.

I believe it is attached to the individual cards. Otherwise, you would need a two-dimensional grid... since CSG often gives 8 & 9 auto grades.

Is the bottom one (the one further back in the photo) the 6?

Look at the surface grade for a 5.5.

Use the price you think it's worth, if they lose the card.

Or you need to understand that CSG is *really* hard on surface. Look at it again. The fact that others can see issues from photos means the cards must have clear damage in hand.

Submission #1022890 It was posted as received on 20 April 2022. Has the order been lost? Did CSG damage the cards while reviewing them? I don't understand what the issue is. CSG has been pretty hush about what's going on, despite various staff members in customer service telling me they would reach out to the grading team. In each instance, I'm told they will reach out to the grading team,, then end of communication. What is the hold up?