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I thought it was at first! Sweet sketch!

Copper is my most collected age of comics and I often feel like the line between copper and modern is fuzzy. The Death of Superman is my clear cut off point, but if I'm going through a stack of books I can't always accurately distinguish the difference in ages like I can with other transitions. The Spectre #57 from 1997? 100% modern.

Love it.

That would be cool, especially for #1. Super happy to find the insert in #4 as it's my 2nd favorite Darkhawk cover behind #1. A nice compliment to my 9.9 copy and the 100+ raw copies I have of #4.

What do these three Darkhawk comics have in common? Despite assertions that these couldn't possibly exist, here they are. Considering the collection they came from and inspecting the staples/spine/inserts, these are 100% legit and not married together.

Randall's the best. As nice as a guy as you could want to deal with. Insta pay and great communication. Thanks again!

I love this thread. The only multi cover book in my collection. A quad cover of Marvel Team Up 106 [/img]

Very nice mags!

Duh. 180.

Very nice, 1dingo!

Not sure that matters. When Guardians of the Galaxy got hot, the comic that saw the biggest run up was the first app of the Guardians and that team had nothing to do with the movie. Yondu was the only character held over and that was in name only. The movie Yondu and the comic Yondu are night and day The biggest gains were seen in movie relevant Guardian's first appearances. Tales to Astonish 13, Marvel Preview 4, Hulk 271 and possibly Strange Tales 181 saw the biggest increases. MSH18 saw a huge spike but it pales in comparison to the run up on those other comics.

That's fog!? I never knew that.

LOVED it!

Thank you for the very informative post, SilverDream.

This is what everything boils down to. It's that some people are taking the "first" in the term first appearance way too literally. You have it backwards. If someone were to take the first appearance designation literally then they would be in favor of the cameo vs full distinction. The full appearance designation would be used to note an instance where the character does not literally appear enough in the cameo issue to constitute a first appearance. Uh, no.

I wish we had more new board members like her. I mean really how refreshing. Janet's one cool lady.

Many more copies of #18 were printed. Plus, #18 was a hoard book so people saved them in nice shape for the most part. If a comparison is to be drawn between 180/181, the character first appearing has to be similarly popular and the cameo/full issues need to have a similar print run.

Because "cameo" and "full". Why do people want 181 significantly more? Why do more people think 181 is significantly more important? Why is 181 worth significantly more? It's because significantly more people believe 181 is the first appearance. Now I will circle back to my previous comment:

I own enough Darkhawk #1's to say that no mark jeweler inserts exist for that book. I also have not encounter any double covers yet. Same on both accounts. There is a Marvel WAM! insert in issue #9. BTW, sweet new books everyone!

Do I really need to go into this again? Did you ever read comics as a kid? As in READ them just to READ them and experience the stories, follow your favorite characters, etc.? Well I did, and before sportscard dealers brought this whole "rookie card" mentality to comics in the late-80's, people actually READ these things, so ask yourself this: If you are looking to READ and collect a back issue (remember, there were no TPBs) about your fave character's past exploits, would you choose: a) a comic with the first single panel of your fave character and no cover appearance. or b) a comic with the first entire story about your fave character and an action cover image. That's why "first FULL appearances/covers" were more popular and worth more historically pre-CGC, and will continue to be, as in the CGC entombed comic world, covers mean more than ever. You don't need to shoehorn a first appearance label onto a particular issue just because it is the more sought after book among a character's early appearances. You add more legitimacy to the book by separating it from being associated with a character's first appearance, as it is then allowed to stand on its own. You don't need to call 181 the first appearance of Wolverine to sell it as a desirable issue, the cover and it being his first fight with hulk are enough. Ask yourself this, how many comic book stories end with a teaser, hook or whatever on the last page to get you to want to buy the next issue? When that teaser involves a new character, the hobby has always used "cameo appearance" to describe insignificant first appearances by characters. So some people argue that the technical first appearance is the only appearance that should warrant a label that claims to be "first". No one is shoehorning a "first appearance" onto a label, the people arguing for cameos as legitimate "firsts" are trying to rewrite history for whatever reason. This all pre-dates CGC labeling and the hobby's use of "cameo" to describe a first 'minor' appearance comes hand-in-hand with our almost universal understanding that first appearance generally means first "full or feature" appearance. This is what everything boils down to. It's that some people are taking the "first" in the term first appearance way too literally. Like they've stumbled upon this great hidden secret that the word "first" has been misinterpreted by everyone in the hobby for many decades. Heck, some are even claiming that Previews, the solicitation magazine, should be fair grounds for first appearance recognition.

He placed blame on Hector? Dear god... Sorry you're dealing with this guy, Hector.

That really is sharp. Now that I see a different picture of it I can easily tell what's going on with the spine. It's paper loss and not bug bites or chew marks.

You clearly are not getting it. No Im not Re-read the discussion again and if that does clarify things then

You clearly are not getting it.

And where does he get his information? comixpedia...... Research? Sure lets bash someone that spends countless hours/days researching information and makes good on sharing his findings over here. BIG -1 Uh, except that he doesn't. All of his posts have a certain proprietariness about them. I don't call "research" assembling the work of others and representing it as your own. I believe that's what's called "plagiarism" if not properly credited. But he shares it with us and spends time on it and stuff!