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I don't know if anyone else picked up on this, but at 7:48 in the above 1998 video that was posted in the Youtube thread, Flessel credits the Double Action 2 cover to Flanagan. This was over 15 years before the boards "discovered" this fact in the "Tribute to Flessel" thread. The tidbit was out there all those years, but none of us were aware of it.
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On 11/22/2022 at 9:33 PM, Professor K said:
Thanks for posting this. Creig Flessel was a remarkable man. Even in his 90's, he remained as sharp as a tack with a phenomenal memory about the early days and creators of the comic industry. His passing was a sad day for his many fans.
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On 11/22/2022 at 7:48 PM, tth2 said:
Borock lost a major opportunity to firmly establish the credibility of the competitor by having it grade as strictly as CGC. Instead, the market discounts its grades and the main reason people submit to them is faster turnaround times and lower prices.
I agree 100%. I got the impression that they loosely graded books in an effort to attract submitters/sellers. But what they didn't realize is that they lost significant credibility with buyers. In the end, it backfired for both the grading service and the submitters because the product was viewed as substandard. It's a shame because it would have been better for all of us if they had been comparable to CGC; then both companies would have had to raise the service bar to earn market share.
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On 11/16/2022 at 4:16 PM, rjpb said:
More recently (June) an 8.0 only reached $10,800 (w/BP) on Heritage, so a lot of range with this book, as seems the case with Phantom Lady in general. Still I'd expect a slabbed 5.5 to hit $5.5K at least. The copy just sold looked more like a 4.0 with the spine stains/foxing and rusty staples. The price seems to reflect that's what bidders thought as well.
That was a candidate for the best deal in the last 5 years. I still can't understand how such a high demand book got overlooked and went for a fraction of its perceived FMV in a red-hot market (even though it seemed to be over-graded due to a significant color breaking crease in the LRC).
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On 11/12/2022 at 11:00 AM, ChillMan said:
I'd put it at about $2M at the moment.
Would you pay $2 million for it?
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On 11/9/2022 at 8:22 AM, PDGray said:So, to put this into perspective.
If you were to look at the CGC Census and find that there were less than 10 graded copies or less than 20 graded copies - what does that mean? Or does that have ANY meaning at all in relation to rarity or scarcity?
We know that there are a lot of books that have never been graded and therefore aren't counted, but do we discount those or simply use that as a basis?
Thoughts?
PDG
The higher the FMV of the book, the more relevant is the CGC census data. If a $50 book has less than 5 copies in the census, the census data is meaningless. But if the book has a FMV in the 4 figures or higher, then the fact there are less than 5 copies in the census is a very good indicator that the book is uncommon or rare.
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On 11/6/2022 at 4:52 PM, CGC Mike said:
I have sent an e-mail inquiring about this.
Thanks Mike.
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On 10/21/2022 at 8:16 AM, lou_fine said:
Just took a look at the Harlan Ellison Auction scheduled to end today and it appears that this is the "top" comic book by a long shot so far:
Probably going to be another strong finish and result for this once relatively underappreciated and undervalued key #1 GA first appearance book, although it's probably not going to be as strong (from a relative POV) to the CGC 2.5 graded copy that sold for $11,400 at the end of December last year. Then again, that copy did appear far nicer than its assigned CGC grade from a strict visual point of view.
Judging from the prices realized in the auction, the GA market remains on fire, even for Fawcetts.
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On 10/18/2022 at 2:34 PM, MikeRN said:Now the late, great John Verzyl was a man who understood comic book lovers, wasn't a 'cut throat' businessman, and would make a reasonable deal-and still make a profit. I miss seeing Mr. Verzyl at conventions, and his Comic Book Heaven Auctions: For those who love comic books, research him.
I never found that John Verzyl had "reasonable" prices, but he had an inventory of amazing books that could not be found elsewhere, and he was one of the warmest and kindest people I ever met.
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On 10/14/2022 at 12:19 PM, LDarkseid1 said:
And I found another example of this situation but with a high grade AF15 from 5 years ago in Canada. The book actually looks like it's contained in a deslabbed CGC Mylar. It kind of looks like the way the guy handles it, he could be warping the book lol.
Also it almost looks too perfect to be honest, as if it had some resto, but tough to say for sure.
"One of the rarest comic books in the entire world."
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Great set of books, GLWTS Jeff!
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On 10/13/2022 at 7:09 AM, Chicago Boy said:
The book was offered to his competition Eide's Entertainment which is the COOLEST COMIC BOOK SHOP IN THE USA IMO. Owner convinced it was trimmed by the Bob Kane sig. Offered to pay to get it graded to prove it. Todd declined. Last time I spoke to Todd was 2015. he still had it then
Countless copies of this issue don't have the whole Bob Kane signature, so I don't know why the signature would be the tell-tale sign of trimming.
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Weren't there accusations that it was trimmed, which was why it wasn't graded or shown to anyone at the time? Were those accusations ever proved or disproved?
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These are classic books. If you list them with one of the major auction houses, you will likely get at least your listed prices, if not more. Your NA 24 looks like a potential candidate for "de-restoration."
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On 10/7/2022 at 4:56 PM, Mmehdy said:
Opinion time...many years ago when fandom was just a baby everyone kept comic book knowledge to themselves until after they got the book...LOL. Anyway looking for the great boards opinion as to what is the single most undervalued GA comic book. Here is my vote:
Human Torch #3 (which is actually The HT's second issue, the first being the outstanding Red Raven #1)....Why...
Well....It is the true first appearance of Captain America in print form and in reality it truly is the first appearance of Captain American on page 44 of HT #3 (2). Lets say you consider house ad's of the future comic book not to count....Fair enough...I know the infamous Detective 26 etc. However while the inside promotes Cap one coming out on Dec 20 Newstand I believe the inside front cover,that AD it a refers to the reader to page 44...this reference is the key here, and the true first appearance of Cap and Bucky...in full page color appears, not a reproduction . You can reference this confirmation by Marvel and the outstanding omnibus edition "Timely's Greatest : The Golden Age Simon and Kirby" book. There description acknowledges as CA First Print appearance. It was the announcement of Cap's Club in full color. HT#3 (2) is clearly the must undervalued GA comic book out there.
Agree or Disagree if you disagree what is it?
PS: somebody just paid $3.12 Million dollars the second apperance of Captain America....and I just love Cap #1 as one of my Favs of the GA, but HT 3(2) is a real bargain!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Interesting topic. The problem with getting good input is that, in most cases, folks will only want to identify undervalued books they already own. If they don't yet have the books, then touting the books will only create a demand that makes it harder to get them. Especially in our recent hot market where very few GA books seem to go for less than they are worth.
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What I find curious is that both Tec 16 and New Adventure 27, which are cover dated June 1938, have ads for Action #1, but the photo has a copy of Action #2, which has a July 1938 cover date. I would have expected to see Tec 17 and NA 28 in the photo because they have the same cover date as Action #2. I haven't checked the cover dates of the other books.
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ChillMan, which copy of MPFW do you own, the 5.5 copy?