mephistopheles

On 11/29/2022 at 9:50 PM, Terry JSA said:

I’m convinced people just toss the word “woke” around at this point.

Race/gender/sexuality swapping established characters to score identity politics points is the epitome of woke.

On 11/29/2022 at 9:41 PM, jdandns said:

Definitely looking up on Simpsons ongoing #1, although I'm thinking the first Simpsons comic book stories (before the one-shot from Welsh publishing, the first regular sized Simpsons comic) actually appear in Simpsons Illustrated magazine, so those may eventually get some heat. There were 9 issues and a 3D special, if I'm remembering right.

Beyond that, there are some early reprint issues with a "Bartcode" in the UPC box that indicate they are from 4-packs and therefore a limited edition, at least compared to the sizable productions run of the early years (93-96), which is probably as big as it ever got for Simpsons Comics. By the time the line limped to the finish a few years ago, albeit after an impressive quarter-century overall run, the print runs on those later issues apparently dipped to well under 10,000 copies. Ultimately, the later issues of their three main titles (Simpsons, Futurama, Spongebob) will be the hardest to find. 

The same thing happened with Marvel's Groo. The 3 final issues 118-120 are more desirable/expensive due to low print runs.

On 11/29/2022 at 7:35 PM, jdandns said:

I'd agree with you, but I got over $2,000 (moments after listing it) last year for a raw Marvel Previews #95 (with the Miles Morales Spider-Man cover). I'd only ever saved those for reference, along with Diamond Previews, and other comic companies' house ads, never thinking any of them would have any monetary value whatsoever, so that two grand sure was a nice surprise.

I collect Simpsons TV show comics, so going back to 1993 when the line began, I used to take the monthly Diamond Previews catalog after I'd used them, and tear out the Bongo Comics solicitation pages, to save those as supplements to my collection of the actual comics. Somewhere around 20 years ago, though, I started getting backed up on that, so I'd just put the magazines away, about 8 to a box. With about 30 boxes of those in the garage, I think that's something like 20 years in a row of them. I know there was some interest in the one that previewed the first issue of Walking Dead, and I'm sure I have that one. 

Did you happen to see this?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/403951033597?hash=item5e0d5b9cfd%3Ag%3AmMkAAOSwRoxii0RG&amdata=enc%3AAQAHAAAAoL2vfHJRTSVPs4%2B8ad0PQbaEO9X6yQHXSpLsp6fQ81IoGp2BrOwDwxDu5%2FPcBppeR8Fskvwmw2fe6iQafS7Xn9dLVAM7R%2FDnEFFdu%2BZH6Bs4V25MLHGStU8MP88k005tLJrLHIkG9Gnm12QMg9nw6bCFLRQok6Dxn52iYJ0kp4n2QKjoBANmTDJPEWkB0JeVPsoyJOCLTlbBUqr1S74hxM8%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR_ykwtuYYQ&nma=true&si=tAb6NxgP5DD0Arg9VPDMEV5W0bU%3D&orig_cvip=true&nordt=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

This isn't even the thick several hundred page Previews Catalog. This is the dang order form booklet! From only 3 years ago! Even I didn't save those. I'd usually write on them when figuring out my pre-order total and then throw them away, which I'm sure I did with this one. What a fool I was!

What's the market like on the Simpsons? I pulled 3 Bongo Simpsons #1 and 2 Itchy & Scratchy #1 out of my childhood longbox. Weird thing is I thought I stopped collecting in 1989.

On 11/29/2022 at 6:05 PM, BigLeagueCHEW said:

Even if I were a millionaire I would question buying this crud. Exactly what you said. The possibilities with ~30K 

But...but...variant...Miles Morales....Disney cartoon!

On 11/29/2022 at 2:25 PM, Ken Aldred said:

Kirby is one of my favourite artists, but everyone has an occasional off day...

At his peak he was great. Not here.

Gahddamn his fingers look like a minecraft character. I will always have a soft spot in my heart for Kirby though.

On 11/28/2022 at 9:28 PM, rexinnih said:

Not desirable for me. I've had a few come back and two, IH 181 with color touch and GS X-Men 1 with something added to spine. Sent in for restoration removal, press and clean and both came back same grade Blue. 

How'd they remove the color touch?

On 11/28/2022 at 9:46 PM, newshane said:

Chasing down all the ridiculous variants of Spawn was what totally destroyed the joy of "modern" comics for me. 

I went Gold and I'm never going back. 

It's hard and expensive enough for me chasing silver/bronze. Chasing gold would drive me insane.

On 11/28/2022 at 5:22 PM, universal soldier said:

Artificially hyped ratio variants for any modern. Good god, it's the 90's alll over again.

I created a thread on that very topic a while back. 

On 11/28/2022 at 2:55 PM, D2 said:

I'd love to hear, I know this is off topic, but reads that people believe have aged well, considering... and could be rendered in the 'timeless' category.

The Killing Joke

On 11/28/2022 at 11:38 AM, Stefan_W said:

Interesting question. I look at it from the perspective of how many copies are out there versus how much they are going for. 

So Spawn is in there for sure, although the prices are not ridiculously high so whatever. 

Probably ASM 300. I used to get 9.4 copies pretty cheap all of the time on that book, and now somehow it is priced out of the reach of a lot of people even with gads more of them sent in for grading every year. Totally overrated. 

This one will get me into trouble - Hulk 181. If you want to talk about a fanboy effect there are soooooooo many Wolverine fanboys out there. Hugh Jackman will be showing up with a walker and they will still think it is the coolest thing since sliced bread. This book is a 1k book tops disguised as a 5-10k and up book.  

UF4 is pretty far down the list for me and I am keeping one 9.8 copy around. When the current Spider-Man ages out I am expecting a new string of live movies with Miles as the main character. He will have broad appeal to the audience who goes to movies and is a character they can build a franchise around. With apologies to the OP, there is zero reason why people who grew up with Spider-verse stuff have to prefer the version from 1960s comics. 

My last pick will be Clone Wars 1. Although Ahsoka is definitely a cool character, there is nothing about how values of books in the Star Wars universe have played out that says a Dark Horse comic will hold at the multi-thousand dollar mark. Those were dollar bin books for a long time, and although this one will never be a dollar bin book again I cant see the value staying anywhere near where it has been the past couple of years.

Ok done, flame away  

Hulk 181 is overpriced, but it's nearly 50 years old and pretty rare in 9.8.

Compare that to UF4. 10 years old, 15K graded and tons of high grade and certainly tons of raw copies sitting in personal collections.

On 11/28/2022 at 11:05 AM, Phill the Governor said:

You do know that this is a comic book, right? So the laws of our physics do not apply 100%. We're talking about a part man, part spider here. Unless I'm mistaken, in previous ASM issues he had more than two arms, so............ 

By this rationale it would be fine to draw Spider Man's head attached to his left arm and his right foot attached to his neck, because "hey it's a comic book. Anatomy and physics don't matter!". Why are you defending bad art?

On 11/28/2022 at 7:33 AM, godzilla43 said:

This does not mean anything. Two years ago before the PS5 game UF4 was like 200$ raw NM book. Then the game was released plus that covid-19 money and the price shoot up. Now it is just finding its place but demand is there because Miles is here to stay and already popular character.

I think the comic boom was more linked with the crypto boom. Now we are seeing cryptos crash, and people are dumping comics, especially the hyper-inflated speculative modern books like UF4. Personally, I think it's a 50$ book and I wouldn't even buy it at that price. Well I would only to flip it to some sucker paying $1000.

On 11/28/2022 at 6:57 AM, Tec-Tac-Toe said:

What do you mean by "wokify", that you don't like how the character looks, his heritage, background, etc., etc?

I mean the glaringly obvious agenda in Marvel to race and gender swap white male characters. I have nothing against his ethnicity, I am equally annoyed with Marvel gender swapping Thor into a white female.

On 11/27/2022 at 8:03 PM, Ken Aldred said:

The one aspect I ended up fixating on is that the faces he drew always seemed to me to be very flat.  Noticed it towards the end of his ASM run.

For me it's more that he draws the anatomy in positions that are physically impossible but his art is so busy your brain doesn't register it. Once you do it's hard to unsee it. For example look at the impossible legs/hips on ASM 300.

On 11/27/2022 at 5:58 PM, The humble Watcher lurking said:

Nothing personal about the characters, as I like them, but both Eternals #1 and She-Hulk #1 both seemed to have nose-dived in price compared to a year ago.

 

Speculation runs rampant on MCU announcement. Then Disney ruins the IP with wokery and demand collapses.

On 11/27/2022 at 5:38 PM, D2 said:

Best part too is I grew up with his stuff. 
I even wrote a letter to him which got published in Spawn #59. I respect what Todd McFarlane accomplished. His stuff is still overhyped & overpriced though…

 

Batman 423

 

Someone on the boards pointed out Mcfarlane's art is full of impossible anatomical errors and now that's all I can see.

And.....The UF4 fanboys rage begins.

On 11/26/2022 at 2:43 PM, MAR1979 said:

End of world? - no

Kiss of doom to many collectors including myself? - most certainly.

I would take the color touch over the cut out comic any day. There seems to be an OCD quality to many collectors where it's gotta be a blue 9.8 or bust. 

On 11/25/2022 at 12:04 PM, BlowUpTheMoon said:

Link to video?

Can only find the resubmission video now. 9 minute mark: 

I saw a youtube of a guy wrecking a slabbed G.I. Joe comic by trying to cut out the colortouched spine tics. I think he resubbed and it still graded purple. I can understand them fetching a discount to blue, but if they present well....

On 11/17/2022 at 11:28 PM, B2D327 said:

Anyone else get this email recently? What are your thoughts?

Personally, I don’t like the idea of having them come out to see me in person, invading my space and having some stranger all up in my business. The confrontational side of me however, wants to relish in embarrassing someone for the same reasons. I’m torn.

 

$300 is not enough for the inconvenience, Maybe for 1000.