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As a 50 plus year collector I have learned more in your theads about that time period of 1957-1961 for marvel history. my highest recommendation to follow this in SA.

Welcome in the Silver Age area. I think one of the great attempts by you to explain how the "magic " happened in 1961 and above thru the examination of the footprints leading up to the creative "Big Bang" of late 1961-1963. As a collector who bought those very books we are heading towards...as a young collector I looked up to older collector who have probably 1000 comic books at the time. We would trade generally my 3 for his one as his and my parents were friends and were coin collectors together. However we did have discussion about FF4 when it had come out a few months prior and he stated this comics were different. I would estimate his age at 15 or 16 to my 6/7 and he was top heavy DC wise. the FF caught fire with all comic book collectors during after FF4 and it was cemented in FF5/FF6 which combined with 4 is possibly the greatest 3 issue homer runs in a row until 48-50 and bingo the rest history. So on the collector ground level there was a major shift afloat and it was when FF4 hit and was digested.I agree with you it is important to give credit where credit is due and so a big WELCOME and keep up the amazing job you are doing.

Looking at those photos jogged my memory about buying that Beatles Mag many many moons ago, so much great stuff which is not a bunch of Modern age books being hyped for the price. Thank you again for being the best poster on this board.

I believe those bankers chase, citi whom testified before congress last week indicated they were scared we were going into Stagflation which I would agree to that direction given the current conditions. I think a real issue on the 2022 GA/SA comic book market going forward in the last quarter will be how the real estate downturn will have an effect on those prices in general. The real estate market has crashed not because in 2008 the properties flooded to the market, but that the buyers number has crashed especially since interest rates have been above 6 and in the last few days at 7 with no end in sight. Will that possible extra trade up money find our way into the GA/SA market and will the fact that they will not be able to sell that property as easily eliminate the sellers who would invest part or all of the profit in our comic market. The next 3 months of Oct,Nov and Dec should prove to be very interesting. I will start a new thread in January for 2023....but my outlook for the remainder of 2022 is Flat...give or take 5% either way. I predict 2023 will be a very different story especially mid-year. Your Market predictions for 4th Q are ????

First I agree with this book length type story, first appearing prototype being Early ALl-Stars 3 up and Human Torch #5 which was 60 pages. Even the great All Winners 19 and 21 showed the "novel" approach. Using the flagship title Superman and the use of Novel on its comic book cover prior to the August 1961 release date of FF1, the first use was Superman #113May 1957 which used the words 3 Part Novel and it was not till issue#122 in July 1958 that the Novel description was used again and interestingly again in #132 as well as classic Superman #146 ( one of the best superman stories ever illustrated and written) in July 1961 for the use of novel on the cover. The significant change that led to marvel in August of 1961 to rewrite comic book history and which was to elevate the medium of the comic book story to the next level in a cinematic graphic novel approach must have been both a historical factor of various comic books being released at the time as well as the historical past. There is a real difference or step us in both story and art which television had increased the media savvy of the average American. We just thought differently after TV was in every house and not limited to going to the movie theater and listing to the radio. I think that change of the average persons perspective of life canned in a 30 min or 60 minute program in which hero comes out alive or the problems are resolved on minute 29/59 is in my opinion he greatest factor in Marvel's jump. I was recently read Jack Kirbys War and Romance Omnibus( thumbs way up) and what struck me light a lighting bolt as I read it issue by issue as created..when I hit Sgt Fury#1 which was created in 1963 it just blew me away how cinematic and how much the game was raised in 23 pages or so. I then read Sgt #2 and got the exact same feeling reguarding them destroying Hitlers nuclear plant. It was a jolt. I can confirm in my personal conversations with Bob B that what was reported was accurate and that the tapes do exist. Challengers did and in my opinion also create a blueprint for FF1. However it was the Time 1961 as opposed cover date Feb 1957 for Showcase #6 which made the difference...we had grown up a bit more!

I think I heard from Cal a couple of years ago and I think he is still on the boards although not posting as much

His approach is quite contrary to the usual comic book dealer business model. On the video above he again states he does want to sell his "stuff" which is why he prices it greatly above current market price. In part that is why he has something like 15 Million comics and books however I cannot think of another dealer that does what he does with his attitude. He is quite unique. I still fail to see what that would justify for you to pay 2x,3x market value unless he is the only source of the material in which he can create any market price he wants. Is there any other dealer out there that anyone is aware of similar to Chuck and yes that is a real question?

Thank you for one of the best threads on the boards. I can relate to you a story as 50+ year comic book/collector dealer that occured to me in my presence with Stan Lee and the owner of a original comic book art page to FF12 at the SDCC 5/10 years ago and just being in the right place at the right time. Stan was signing autographs when this dealer/possible a collector brings out a original FF page from #12 I believe. I was right next to them when Stan took the page and said see these handwritings on the side, that was my writing. He said thanks to the collector for "proving" he was just not a ediitor and he said that it was quite rare to see this page. Gaging his reaction he seemed to really object to the fact that Jack was the sole writer/creator...it was my read of stan. In my prior discussions with Stan in La at book signing, I think it was Boarders 15 plus years ago I discussed what created that magic cira 61/62, which at the time no other company could duplicate and you had to buy them off the newstands in order to understand how much impact they really had. I felt Stans response was that everything kinda fell into place. My gut was that Stan put a lot more effort or contribution early on say 1962 than going forward.

Chuck just posted his new video with Kevin Smith visiting his store and promoting Clerks 3 movie today on youtube. He said on the video he does not like to sell his comics??? Quite a odd attitude from a large dealer.

This weeks Ha auction has another 19 Promise books and some excellent books in top grade....contrary to popular belief the Promise collection is not finshed, washed up, bad investment ....etc...it is still being sold!!!!

You are entitled to your opinion which has not played out and I am entitled to my opinion as a 50+ year collector/dealer also.....give "Promise" a chance...and time to play it out!!!!!!!

Well first of all the collection is still being SOLD...check the weekly auctions and there are some excellent books out there....the body is not "cold" yet....these premature sales have no meaning until the collection is completely sold and a reasonable amount of time has passed, I would say at least -9-12 months after the end of the auction. Come on guys...give this collection a legit shot amount of time...you have jumped the gun and the conclusion. When I purchased the Mile High comics at over double guide...I could not resell them for anything close that....and look what happened...Promise books are great LONG TERM holds not a quick super flip......

no I do not it was either a DC/Marvel. prior to FF1 probably a pre-hero marvel book...Mom threw out books when we moved, I found out later, about early 1965 I began to recollect and that first issue was Strange Tales 136...and the rest is history

That is a great cover and books...9.4...worth the 12K

mine was 1961 for the first comic book purchase or very late 1960.....so win by a mile....1942...wow

Total auction results was $18,163,271....WOW

On hardcover collections of SA Kirby / Ditko my highest recommendations go to the current Marvel reprints especially Doc Strange Vol 1,, two vols of-Master of Suspense and Monsters and especially the "Complete Kirby War and Romance Omnibus. My question is what is the best non-marvel hardcover books reprinting SA Kirby/Ditko out there...especially any hidden gems?.....thanks in advance!

day 2 done with a amazing auction total $12,896,231.00 so far...it seems like 10M getting crossed is a every day event for HA.com Sat looks like another big day.

for the other 11 9.8 owners...I agree 100%

$9,255,000 PLUS ON DAY 1.... What kind of world is this...Luke CAGE #1 FOR $180,000 with 12 copies at 9.8...I think Cap 1 was a much better buy...Right???

As usual outstanding reports, so much so that I feel I can reach out and buy those great GA/SA books. I think what I really enjoy about them is the high % of real/old time collectors and dealers who truly love GA/SA/Pulp collecting and the great and unusual sections that they bring to the conventions as opposed to many regular dealers at big conventions, especially SDCC. Keep it up, you are the best of the best of what other collectors can share on the board. Thank you.

I heard of a third one… I believe it was the former Carter brothers collection… it might be in Japan… someone should ask Gary

Fantastic thread …please keep til going…. Great reproduction!!!!!

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