Buzzetta

Remember that ever since the boards changed, 135 pages is the new 270.

Game 7?

For the record you undervalue Charles Scribner and his sons.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/JERRY-SIEGEL-SIGNED-SUPERMAN-75-CGC-9-6-DYNAMIC-FORCES-CERTIFIED-/153583521262 Seller is asking $600

You would be wrong. Again, too many variables as @revat stated. For example, as much as we laugh about Stan Lee signing everything, people within the comics industry might want a certified Stan Lee autograph that they can trust was signed by Stan. For them, they want the signature, and the book is nothing more than a secondary backdrop for that signature. This is why one of the Stan signatures I have is on a copy of "True Believers: Amazing Fantasy 15". However, I agree with you Kav that, certain universal books should not be touched which is why I never got an actual AF15 signed by Stan. However, when it comes to preserving this month's modern? No one is really going to care in comparison to having a Stan autograph. As far as getting every creator on a book? For the most part, no one is eventually going to care. Sure, they are big names that will stand the test of time, Stan Lee, Frazetta, among them. However guys like David Michelinie and Len Wein will become footnotes. Eventually when someone picks up a slab signed by them they will say, 'cool'... "who?" As long as there are GI Joe collector's anything Hama touched will be sought out as they don't just look at him as a comic creator but the spiritual father of GI Joe. Here is the thing though. When I was 15, back then, I saw a lot of what currently passes for today's collecting habits. I came over from baseball cards which I believe I can safely assume many others did. Back then you were driven to collect the rookies. For the most part, the rookies were more important than the limited edition cards. My collecting focus was driven toward collecting first appearances. Chris Claremont wrote an excellent run on X-Men? So what? That's the first issue that featured Frank Miller on Daredevil! So what? I didn't care. Really, I didn't. The only reason they had that opportunity was because there was a Daredevil. There was an X-Men. I went after the first appearances. In the future, I predict that no one is going to care about B+ comics talent. Many of the creators will become no names. Guys like Stan Lee however will be like Babe Ruth. People are going to hunt for artifacts of Stan and consider the issue he signed as secondary.

Was that how a certain board member got himself in trouble or was that with a PayPal loan?

One day I want to redo my basement. It is furnished but it needs an update. I want the section in the wall or the cabinet with the autographed baseballs. I have them ready to go... just need to update the basement.

That makes sense. Books like ASM298 are known for McFarlane so having his name on the book would make sense to command a premium. I would imagine that ASM 39 would follow suit as well with a Lee/Romita signature. I know I paid a premium for mine in having both signatures on one of my copies. Good call.

Board member happy hour through zoom...

I have two signature series CGC book with my name on it. I do... I colored them. Anyone else remember when CGC ran that promotion?

Yeah, I would not have bought it... when I'm asked how I know my Jeter ball is real, I explain that the guy who asked DJ to sign it lost his job over it. Apparently that's a big no no. For the rest of the sports stuff, my parents bought me an autographed DJ bat from Steiner. I've trusted Steiner with other autographed balls and have yet to see anything in regards to their in-house signing sessions that would lead me to doubt them. The only exception I know of was the Manning gaffe where Eli was sending them non-game used materials. However, that is far different than a Steiner in house session or a live event where Steiner is facilitating the signatures.

Ok that makes far more sense then. I thought you were going to try and make a case that the majority of Shatner signed yellow labels are fake.

I don't do the paid signature thing often. The book in question in the now deleted NYComics thread was an example of a signature series book I like to buy. I don't look at that like a comic book but more of an artifact of comic collecting. It's weird. With most people, I don't really care and I don't stand in line. The only creators I have basic signatures on yellow labels outside of sketched covers are Stan, Romita, McFarlane, Adams, Hama, Steranko, and Shatner. When it came to sketched covers, I thought it would be kinda cool to have an Allen Bellman and George Perez original when he was doing his thing. I only stood in line for Hama and Perez... the others I just ordered or in the case of Adams or Steranko, just walked up to. To be honest... when it came to Steranko, I felt I was paying more for a few great stories and got a free signature.

At one point from 1998-1999 I had access albeit very LIMITED access to the NY Yankee clubhouse... a good friend asked his friend to do me a favor. I have a Jeter autograph. Unfortunately the friend of the friend lost his job with the Yankees for doing me that favor. We were in our early 20's... Who knew the rules applied to us?

Yeah but I am not talking about purchasing the item for the book. I don't care about the book itself if that makes sense. When I picked up a Shatner autograph I did so because I trusted CGC with the autograph and I wanted something signed by Shatner. To be honest, I don't care about the comic. That's more toward what I was leaning that you had a Stan signature on something somewhere stashed away. I figured most everyone does actually.

On yellow signature series? I want to see you back this claim up that you see a LOT of fakes of Shatner's signature in yellow slabs. Particularly Shatner. Particularly fake yellow slabs. Maybe I am misunderstanding. I have two in the closet across from me. I really don't feel like taking them out and making scans.

There are plenty of books which increase the fair market value of the book if it was raw. While not a creator, a William Shatner signed Star Trek book goes for much more than an unsigned Star Trek book. Nimoy? I missed the boat on that one. Go take a look at what that commands.

Not being snarky. Surprised you didn't pick up a Stan signature at some point given the breadth of books I see you interested in. ...unless you did through another vendor like Dynamic Forces or something.

Thanks... ever since my LCS closed I have been playing the game of sit out six months and order all of them down the road because I only buy one modern title. That many not be possible with the books coming out during this time period.

I was just about to ask you whether or not the print runs were going to remain unaffected. With people severely cutting back how will that impact print runs in a few months. I'm asking because I have no idea how this works.

Voted... this was actually tough to choose ten.

It's from. 8 years ago.

I said it in one of the Corona threads... with certain items, like homes, they are projecting a decline in sales but not a decline in price. The market will somewhat retain the value but the volume of sales will decrease unless the situation becomes desperate. I don't think we are there yet or will get there to be honest. Someone tried that once and asked, 'don't you want to make a sale, don't you need money bro." Most everything I sell falls under the category of things I just don't want anymore and not things I need to sell. I would imagine that there is a lot of that out there given that so many people have jobs and just sell stuff on the side to get spending money.

Yeah, I would agree... too much opportunity for one person to disappear and then reappear later with problems.