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Not so much, assuming they knew the book's history. If they bought it heavily discounted due to the PLOD, they probably figured the worst that might happen is it comes back a 6.0 PLOD, and maybe they loose a bit in potential value, but the upside is that knowing it was once given a blue label, it could happen again, and even better if it stays a 7.0. The potential profit in FMV well outstrips the potential loss. Unless its like sufunk's problem, and keeps going down in grade with each submission.

There is no good scenario here. They messed up badly! They damaged their reputation and their brand. Nah, they will be fine.

Sort of. Yes you know the history. You get a book that has been a blue and now is a purple, who would resub it? I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Nobody who buys big books like this would resub so quickly. It wouldn't happen. And contact the seller again? Why? It's just going to cause problems like this. Especially because the resubber was doing this for monetary gain, not curiosity. You don't sub big books for curiosity. So your 1,2, and 3 are not normal. Not saying it's the op but or the seller, but the op needs to address these concerns so we can have a better picture. I would resub. 3% FMV grading fee on a plod jim 83 7.0 is about $100 versus a potential doubling in price from 2800k for a plod to nearly 6k for a universal. So it would be worth the risk for me. Especially if i knew it had been a universal before... Even if dude told you about the 'consensus'? Yeah it is only ~$100 bucks for a potential 3k gain, and I know of several "trimmed" books that have changed label colors. I guess my point is it doesn't have to be a conspiracy. If the submitter was in it for the money and was aware of cgc's history a quick resub becomes an attractive proposition. Definitely not a conspiracy, just a mistake, a big mistake by CGC, but an honest mistake. I just hate getting little info, I like to know the whole story. Im really nosy.

Where are you going with this? Can you say it outright? "Comics receive generic barcoding upon receipt and our separate receiving department does not convey any information about the submitter to the graders." So if what CGC states is true what advantage do you think a large submitter would have? None. Is a walkthrough different though? Never seen the process in person so I don't know if it's different.

Sort of. Yes you know the history. You get a book that has been a blue and now is a purple, who would resub it? I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Nobody who buys big books like this would resub so quickly. It wouldn't happen. And contact the seller again? Why? It's just going to cause problems like this. Especially because the resubber was doing this for monetary gain, not curiosity. You don't sub big books for curiosity. So your 1,2, and 3 are not normal. Not saying it's the op but or the seller, but the op needs to address these concerns so we can have a better picture. I would have resubbed it. I might even have flown down and walked a bunch through. I've bought purple books, had the color touch removed, and resubbed for blue (even when it's been a bit of a coin toss). I guess I just think differently. If i knew a book was a 6.0 blue label and was resubbed and received a 7.0 purple label, i wouldn't think to buy it and resub it almost immediately thinking it will come back a universal again and at a grade that is worth more than I paid for it. Id figure it's just throwing money away. If you did fly down and do it and it came back a purple again, would you keep trying because it once sat in a blue label?

Sort of. Yes you know the history. You get a book that has been a blue and now is a purple, who would resub it? I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Nobody who buys big books like this would resub so quickly. It wouldn't happen. And contact the seller again? Why? It's just going to cause problems like this. Especially because the resubber was doing this for monetary gain, not curiosity. You don't sub big books for curiosity. So your 1,2, and 3 are not normal. Not saying it's the op but or the seller, but the op needs to address these concerns so we can have a better picture. Who cares why the new owner resubbed the book??? Seriously. Maybe he's a friend of SD and wanted to see if CGC would grade it restored. It doesn't matter. So what if they did. CGC should have graded it correctly. Period. This is why. at least for me.

Sort of. Yes you know the history. You get a book that has been a blue and now is a purple, who would resub it? I wouldn't, you wouldn't. Nobody who buys big books like this would resub so quickly. It wouldn't happen. And contact the seller again? Why? It's just going to cause problems like this. Especially because the resubber was doing this for monetary gain, not curiosity. You don't sub big books for curiosity. So your 1,2, and 3 are not normal. Not saying it's the op but or the seller, but the op needs to address these concerns so we can have a better picture.

Where is the op in all these 21 pages? Why was the book resubbed? What did the buyer say? It wouldn't be "hey just did a walk through with that JIM and got a 6.0 blue. Suck it!". Some info is needed. There was a plan either from the buyer or the seller or both.

bought a book from jsilverjanet and the transaction was smooth.

It has Rick in full view, no cameo. It would be his first appearance if not for that Trademarked cover shot in Diamond Previews. Interesting, but that still doesn't answer the question. Is it part of an original story (meaning, sequential art that doesn't appear elsewhere), or is it just pinups and preview pages of another book? Traditionally, and it still holds, for appearances to "count", they have to be within the context of an original story. Iron Fist #13 is not Sabretooth's first appearance, not even a cameo, even though there's a picture of him. New Mutants #86 is not Cable's first appearance, not even a cameo, even though there's a picture of his face. Action Comics #12 isn't the first appearance of Batman, even though there's a picture of his face. Hulk #180 IS the first appearance of Wolverine, because he appears within the context of the story. The actual first appearance of Jesse Custer is Preacher #1, despite two preview appearances elsewhere, because those previews only printed pages from the first issue. There are exceptions, of course, that make the rule (More Fun #51.) I understand the motive that people have to push non-story first appearances...they wish to sell them. But, so far, the market has resisted such attempts to legitimize ads and previews as "first appearances", and I hope it always will.

I thougt ASM #361 (2nd print) was hot too, but I just sold 361-363 plus another spider-man in nm for a grand total of $9.99 plus shipping on ebay. Ebay basically sucks. I did sell a Hellblazer #1 NM- for $23.50 though. Just because you list a book it doesn't mean it will sell for the going average. A lot of other things come into play like what else the seller has for sale and multiple bidders (bidding war). Like listing it as an auction maybe? I did list it as an auction. It wasn't a buy it now. I put up 4 spider-man books in a lot that were related to & included Carnage's 1st app(2nd prt) in nm condition that got a total of one bid in 7 days. My Hellblazer #1 NM- in the same time period had a starting bid of $8.88 got 17 bids and a final bid of $23.50. As far as your asm 361 2nd print is concerned, it happens all the time. Not much you can do to explain it. Almost every book in the coppers heating up thread, has sold for $1-2 for me with the exception of Booster gold #1. Okay by me considering I pay cents for the copper books. Your best bet, honestly, is when a book gets hot in this thread, when someone says it's heating up, pull it from auction and sell it on the boards. I still see people selling new mutants 100 and omega men #3's for more than a dollar. Cracks me up, they sit in my eBay store for $1 for months, had a new mutants 100 NM-/NM sit for a year before I forgot to relist it. Sold it with 20 other copies to a local boardie for 50 cents a piece.

Just got off the phone with customer service. Standard is at an estimated 30 day turnaround. Modern Fast Track is sort of on time.

I give anyone credit if they are making $6000 a year off moderns, heck yeah that would be nice. I just see an eerily similarity between this new breed of speculation compared to the dark days of the 90's. Of course the print runs are way different, but the buy every book in multiples regardless of content is in place. Lots of people do much more than $6000 a year from moderns. This is from my summary page on Ebay. Note: These are gross sales. Profit margin can range from 20% to 300% and higher. I sell mostly moderns with the occasional Bronze or Silver age thrown in from time to time when I upgrade personal stuff. Most of the books I sell are graded or in demand raws that I speculate on. Have there been some books that did't sell and are sitting? Sure, looks back at Jupiter's Legacy and a bunch of post Peter Panzerfaust #9. But the profits I have made well out pace the long/and short boxes I have that aren't moving currently. Look at it this way. Buy a modern for anywhere between 40% of cover to cover.. get it graded(23-30 depending one your level) and sell for $85-$150 and you have paid for a stack of 30 books in one fell swoop. how do you get to that on ebay? Selling manager pro

Send me a PM with your want list. I have a few long boxes of 50% off SA and BA books that I take to shows. mess, I'd love to get even 30% of guide on those same books your talking about.

Good on him. Glad this book went up in price.

+a lot

Probably legit, just stupid buyers. Here is a copy I have been trying to sell going on 2 months for $1 and another copy been trying to sell for 3 months for the same. I wouldn't say NM #100 is growing any legs, I probably have half a short box that tells me otherwise. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=321309861063&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT

1.5 x regular time on avg Sounds good i'll see how long it actually takes. For me they have been quicker than usual, but Con season is about in to full swing. Plus i like the fact they don't charge you till the books are shipped. Is this specific for dealers or something? They charge me when they receive the books, not when they ship them back. Or did I miss something? This isn't true. CGC bills the moment the books are received in the system. So what's the point of prescreen if they charge up for all the books? Or do they refund for ungraded books once they ship them? They don't charge that way for prescreens. They charge whatever books pass. I will say this, there have been times that CGC won't charge me until a week after I get my books, sometimes longer.

Never had a problem with midtown. My orders were always shipped in a box with bubble wrap and were tightly packed.

Did a search and couldn't find anything. How can you tell a copper book is a newsstand edition? I read about the slash through the barcode on bronze books but is there a way to tell on books a little later. Moderns have it written "newsstand" or "direct" right? But the copper and later bronze? How about those?

This makes it seem like something you do on occasion jennyforyoutoo? please tell me im not the only one that saw that... should have seen it. was really funny. I don't always shill my auctions. But, when I do, it is not the Tec 27 Lee Variant. i was talking about something completely different. i knew that guy was joking.

This makes it seem like something you do on occasion jennyforyoutoo? please tell me im not the only one that saw that... should have seen it. was really funny.

This makes it seem like something you do on occasion jennyforyoutoo? please tell me im not the only one that saw that...