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A five year membership would probably cost less than one of his pages. If somebody needs adult comics that badly, spend 15 bucks on an old Eros graphic and save the money for a piece by a more original artist.

Greg Land. Every piece looks like he lightboxed printouts of a brazzers picture spread.

I haven't bought art to flip, per se. I just have a short attention span. I've turned around pieces in less than a year, but generally breaking even or at a slight loss. I figure I've enjoyed the pieces, but not enough to look at em for 10 years, so might as well put the money into something else. If I happen to make a little extra, great. But that's not the goal.

Thx for posting all the prelims. It's great to see the amount of thought he put into the piece.

Which is curious, because I seem to recall many of the Timm pieces not selling in the last Pedigree auction. Maybe Pedigree found a new group of Timm fans that decided to enter the OA market starting with this auction. Seems the most logical reason for a high being set in an auction with only a 1/3 sell thru rate.

So far my favorite posted are the Sienkiewicz Star Wars cover and the Adams Longshot splash. I'll be excited to see the bidding war on the latter

Done.

Regardless of the reserves, which is an issue, my biggest problem is this - Those are the options you have to consign with them. Heritage, Clink etc have items in hand with knowledgeable people looking over the art. I don't see a lot of mistakes on listings at those other sites, and when pointed out are generally fixed quickly. Pedigree has no idea what they're selling. Not having items in hand, and not vetting pieces in their auction (if they even have enough OA experience to) seems like amateur hour at best.

Apparently not. Randy solicited me on eBay in November to sell some of my pieces in this auction. I said that I wasn't interested after the results of the last one. His response was that the auction did well, but the problem was there was a consignor with reserves too high. But yet here's the next auction with the same problem. Glad my stuff is going to clink.

2 days to go in the latest auction, and it's looking like a bunch of unmet reserves again.

I inquired about silvestri x-men about a year ago. These are the prices I got from them, so you can get an idea. My inquiries stopped with these quotes. Certain artists they'll get in bidding wars with on auction sites, propabaly to help justify the crazy asks on their current inventory. Silvestri (x-men) seems to be one of them. SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men 224 pg 15, Storm climbs mountain, demons flies - $2,950 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #230 pg 14, Colossus, Dazzler, Psylocke - $2,750 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #236 pg, montage semi-splash - Psylocke senses massacre $2,950 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #239 pg 29, Inferno - Dark Madelyne Pryor - $3,750 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #243 pg 18 "Inferno" - Beast Longshot X-Factor Greys & Baby Cable $3,450 NEW SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-men #246 pg 9, Wolverine & Storm joke about hair - $3,450 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #246 pg, Rogue & Psylocke gal talk - $2,500 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #247 pg 29, Black King & Black Queen trick Senator Kelly $2,750 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #253 pg 24, New Team Line-up - Excalibur UK HQ & Amanda - $1,250 SILVESTRI, MARK - Uncanny X-Men #254 pg 20, Mutant villain - ice superhero statues - $2,500 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #255 pg 12, Mystique & Freedom Force vs Lady Deathstrike $2,750 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #259 pg 16, Dazzler movie / studio - $1,295 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #259 pg 8, Dazzler movie / vault - $1,100 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #260 pg, Banshee & Forge, Dazzler on People Mag $1,850 SILVESTRI, MARC - Uncanny X-Men #261 pg 13, Banshee & Forge, Moira $1,750

Two preview listings in the upcoming auction... https://www.pedigreecomics.com/auction/comic_art/057301/the-hard-corps-14-painted-cover-original-art https://www.pedigreecomics.com/auction/comic_art/057300/turok-25-painted-cover-original-art Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't these just color guide art? Photocopies of the original art water colored in house. Not very good that they're being described as original cover art...

that may be annoying, but there's nothing wrong with it. When you've owned a piece that used to be theirs that stays on their site for years after as for sale, extremely annoying. It's also another one of their snake oil salesman tactics. You request prices on 5 pieces, 3 have sold but they'll try to sell you 10 other similar items.

Pedigree now has 3 pages of art listed for sale that didn't sell in the auction. At the reserves they didn't sell for, some even higher.

Unsurprisingly, that auction was brutal. Out of 302 pieces, 45 allegedly sold. So a whopping 15%. 14 were opening bid of $100. 18 were $101-500 5 were $501-1000 5 were $1001-2000 and only 3 were $2001+ I understand why pedigree is getting into the OA market. There's a lot of money there. But my best takeaways from this auction (if they even care)... -Scan everything in house. It looked like a lot of scans were just provided by the sellers. It looked sloppy. -Know what you are selling. There were several items discussed here that don't seem to be what was described. And there were way too many 'alternate' covers, which is a well documented coollines strategy of making stuff up to milk a piece. -Reasonable reserves, or none at all. I understand that it's hard to get sellers to send pieces to an untested art auction venue, but those reserves were a joke. I can't imagine they'll view this auction as a success. If they do, well, keep on keeping on.

I'm gonna try to, if for nothing else to track future shenanigans. Also, not sure which ones, but 3 items were removed from auction in the last few hours.

I don't understand why prices are going down on pieces now. The Flash 208 cover was reserve not met at $42K last night, now it's $39.5K. The New Mutants 10 pg 11 was up to $1300 something last night, then it dropped down to $100, now it's at $695. This auction is all sorts of off.

I can't speak to Pedigree in general, but when there're pieces already priced two to three times what similar or better pieces have gone for in the last year, and reserves still aren't met... strange things are afoot at the circle K. I have no doubt some of the prices will just be used as another bargaining tool down the road. "Oh, you're offering $4K for this $3K piece? Well we were offered $9K already at Pedigree..."

There are items I looked at earlier today with no bids, that now have thousands of dollars in bids with reserves still not met. I can't help but feel this is just some big price discovery game with no real intention to sell a lot of the pieces. And since nothing is ever deleted from the coollines site, unless somebody posts their winnings on CAF, it's going to be hard to tell what sold, what didn't, or what was just a fun shill game.

I checked out the Pedigree auctions ending soon, and was somewhat surprised that so many auctions have reserves and that hardly any have been met. Then I realized I've seen a lot of these pieces before. A high percentage of the pieces are coollines stock. Still up on the coollines website. The whole point of an auction generally is to sell pieces at what current market dictates. Why have your first art auction be full of product from sellers known not to accept anywhere near market, with reserves most likely reflecting that? It's just strange.

Was lucky enough to score one of the IDW Bill Sienkiewicz Artist Select New Mutants books with an original pen/ink drawing. I was really hoping to get something with Magik, so beyond stoked to get a full head shot of her. High res scan is up on my CAF. http://www.comicartfans.com/GalleryPiece.asp?Piece=1345038

I always love a good Thanos Surfer fight page. Congrats!

I appreciate you posting about the art section that will be at Pedigree. But I don't see what's wrong or unfair about posting the documented criminal activity of the sole proprietor of a comic business, on a comic site, and letting people make their own informed opinion.

Those on the boards longer than I probably can link the threads that it's been discussed in... But there have been many conversations on how Schmell started his collection/business, and also the murky reserve practices used on the Pedigree site. None of them good.

Pretty much what I was thinking.